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Islamabad March for Haqeeqi Azaadi to Take Place Between 25-29 May - Imran Khan

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It's a non-issue my friend.

it's not about Imran Khan, or his political opponents, it's about survival of Pakistan. It's beyond personal or political gains. Establishment is failing to comprehend the gravity of dire economic situation and its impact in upcoming days on people. God forbid if Pakistan default on loans, things will spiral out of control.

PTI have already put enough pressure and have succeeded in getting elections (only formality is remaining). By free-hand, I meant was to counter stupidities of Maryam and gang.
 

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IK calling ex army servicemen to take part in this March is actually IK pointing finger on army that helped traitors in no confidence motion. Bcz those in uniform can't participate in a March.
In my social circles I've heard that even the serving army officers these days are very angry at bajwa. But due to the strict discipline of army cant speak openly.
 

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What consequences are we talking about?

The 29 rupees increase in USD in 6 weeks of this imported govt?
We are not ordinary country and thus, are not supposed to have unrest in country beyond certain threshold. Otherwise, it may give pretext to Western establishments to interfere way more aggressively, than they already have. I don't want to go into more details, but i do hope you understand what i mean.

This is a movement for independence from East India Company remnants aka Western slaves. It's not about politics, elections or forming a government. It's about protecting the sovereignty of Pakistan that is endangered by Dollar Khor US puppets residing within our sleeves.

This march is also about creating a new system that ensures an independent foreign policy and punishes the facilitators of this regime change operation residing in Pakistan.
You haven't explained the mechanism/method of operation cleanup and replacing the system which you foresee IK gonna follow using long march.
 

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While agreeing with you that Pakistan requires a new OS (as someone else on this forum described it), How is IK going achieve that? Installation of new OS requires to format the primary drive, deleting all existing data, is that you think gonna happen?
Has PTI calculated the consequences??
Police and judiciary reforms, while imposing emergency or civilian martial law like zab. police and judiciary have so much haram in them that they are incorrigible.
give them golden handshakes. those who dont take it, make them fear their own shadow, develop a force that can do sting operations against police/bureaucracy/judiciary and if someone is caught taking a bribe. immediate dismissal with 1 appeal allowed. kinda like atc today. this needs 2/3rd majoriyt.
 

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We are not ordinary country and thus, are not supposed to have unrest in country beyond certain threshold. Otherwise, it may give pretext to Western establishments to interfere way more aggressively, than they already have. I don't want to go into more details, but i do hope you understand what i mean.


You haven't explained the mechanism/method of operation cleanup and replacing the system which you foresee IK gonna follow using long march.

The US/EU has already interfered in our system, violated our sovereignty, a serving PM minister is ousted via puppets. American Consul General William Makanole travelling freely, meeting PDM leaders and then No-confidence-motion takes place. NSC has twice admitted that foreign interference indeed took place. How can things be more aggressive than this?

Regarding the cleanup, The method is simply people's power. On one IK's call, millions of people are attending jalsas, people from all parts of Pakistan, all kinds of profession, from women, children, youth to elderly. You do realize he can initiate Civil Disobedience movement and directly name the local facilitators of this foreign-sponsored coup, but he's not doing it as it will further damage the already weakened institutions. Establishment still has time to fix/mend their mistakes and prevent country from going into anarchy & defaulting on loans.

ps: In IK 20 consecutive jampacked Jalsas, not once he passed a remark against military or judiciary. Meanwhile the PDM abused serving Corps Commander Faiz Hameed, issued threats and what not.
 

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IK calling ex army servicemen to take part in this March is actually IK pointing finger on army that helped traitors in no confidence motion. Bcz those in uniform can't participate in a March.
In my social circles I've heard that even the serving army officers these days are very angry at bajwa. But due to the strict discipline of army cant speak openly.

They can send their families to Islamabad march, just like IK said ^^

masla nishta :enjoy:
 

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Fellows in favour of march,
1- what should be IK's objectives of march? Just announcement of election date after dissolving NA? Change of ECP?? Any "other" changes? Don't you guys think 2 million strong long march is an overkill just for this govt of one vote?
2- what are the chances, march MAY prove to be a dead end? What if its 2 million people and govt just lets it pass, offering no resistance? What next, sit in? How long? How long will it be sustainable?
1) at this point, the march is important to send a signal to everyone that matters that PTI/Pakistan will not be run from the outside or from behind the shadows. We will not be a joke of a banana republic where kangaroo courts can remove a government by intervening in the most ridiculous fashion. All to bring in a coterie of corrupt thugs to do someone else’s bidding. So the most important thing is to put enough pressure by showing street power that all these players back down and step down. Not interested in lollipops 🍭- want real concessions- judiciary needs to put thugs in jail, military establishment needs to stop with their nonsense interference.

2) this doesn’t seem possible anymore. The public anger is so visceral- if the march is not stopped, people will stay in Islamabad for a long time. This will be good short term because it will be a pressure valve release.
 

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Just elections and a date should not be enough…..same old shitty system with same faces/people

How do you expect free and fair elections? What about far flung areas or strongholds where we know these chors use rigging and any possible means to get votes?

Any guarantees of overseas votes being granted as well as EVM?

Pakistanis and pti need to demand resignation of bajwa and his team of gangs within corps commanders and ghq…..that has to be one of the points of guarantee that bajwa goes now!
Our jawans are getting killed daily in many areas of the country from these terror outfits, need an ironfist action on border alingwith their chopped heads, no mercy
If necessary throw some ghaznavi and ghauris to bordering countries territories…..time to fucking stand up and show the world we can use toys too

1-2 mizails he boht hain saray haramkhor darr k ainda himmat nai kerainge…..dont care whether its iran, india or afganduistan. No mercy for those fuckers attacking our men. Pakistan first before anything else
Also need present highlevel ghaddars in judiciary, bureaucracy, military and civil admin to be permanently terminated, no pensions or benefits.

Can IK demand this? Its useless to come into power without this purging
Once in power deport ALL afghans back to their country for good. No refugees needed here
 

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1) at this point, the march is important to send a signal to everyone that matters that PTI/Pakistan will not be run from the outside or from behind the shadows. We will not be a joke of a banana republic where kangaroo courts can remove a government by intervening in the most ridiculous fashion. All to bring in a coterie of corrupt thugs to do someone else’s bidding. So the most important thing is to put enough pressure by showing street power that all these players back down and step down. Not interested in lollipops 🍭- want real concessions- judiciary needs to put thugs in jail, military establishment needs to stop with their nonsense interference.

2) this doesn’t seem possible anymore. The public anger is so visceral- if the march is not stopped, people will stay in Islamabad for a long time. This will be good short term because it will be a pressure valve release.

The US/EU has already interfered in our system, violated our sovereignty, a serving PM minister is ousted via puppets. American Consul General William Makanole travelling freely, meeting PDM leaders and then No-confidence-motion takes place. NSC has twice admitted that foreign interference indeed took place. How can things be more aggressive than this?

Regarding the cleanup, The method is simply people's power. On one IK's call, millions of people are attending jalsas, people from all parts of Pakistan, all kinds of profession, from women, children, youth to elderly. You do realize he can initiate Civil Disobedience movement and directly name the local facilitators of this foreign-sponsored coup, but he's not doing it as it will further damage the already weakened institutions. Establishment still has time to fix/mend their mistakes and prevent country from going into anarchy & defaulting on loans.

ps: In IK 20 consecutive jampacked Jalsas, not once he passed a remark against military or judiciary. Meanwhile the PDM abused serving Corps Commander Faiz Hameed, issued threats and what not.
We could have discussed it more, but after shireen mazri's arrest today, the govt has already taken the responsibility of the events to unfold in coming days.
 

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Mushkil ha kpk sa. Kyonk Islamabad to Punjab sa guzar kar hi Jana ha. Kpk sa aanay walay convoys ko block karna easier ha

I think long March ki success k liye khud Islamabad and neighboring areas sa logon ka nikalana most important ha

It will be good for optics, If you remember the movement of restoring Kana Cheap Justice - objectives were achieved before march reaching Islamabad. People of Islamabad/Pindi and nearby areas will be already there to keep Punjab pusl occupied.
 

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