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KapitaanAli

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So now the ISI which was accused of supporting the Afghan Taliban is now supporting their enemy ISKP?
Cool story bro.
Not all factions of Afghan Taliban have a permanent good accord with the Pak establishment.
ISKP has proved its effectiveness in being a civilian-govt killer than a Taliban killer.

The situation is now two pronged depending on the province.
 

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ISKP is a mixture of them and ex-Taliban and new recruits from Pakistan
Last time US dropped MOAB on ISIS stronghold 13 Indian nationals were also there.

As soon as Malik Ishaq and his faction pledged allegiance to ISIS, they were killed ruthlessly by Pakistani state. LeJ and rogue elements of LeT joined ISIS and were taken out.
Your accusation has no proof.
 

KapitaanAli

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Last time US dropped MOAB on ISIS stronghold 13 Indian nationals were also there.

As soon as Malik Ishaq and his faction pledged allegiance to ISIS, they were killed ruthlessly by Pakistani state. LeJ and rogue elements of LeT joined ISIS and were taken out.
Your accusation has no proof.
Yes, about 30 Indians had joined the ISIS in Levant, negligible compared to other countries with Muslim population. They were civilians from a village.
Those alive couldn't return to India, with even families abandoning them, so they returned to Afghanistan along with the central Asians and Pakistanis. Some wanted to keep fighting.
Contributing 13 low-tier fighters isn't exactly how you run an operation.

Malik Ishaq was a domestic terrorist for Pakistan, not an Afghan one.
 

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Yes, about 30 Indians had joined the ISIS in Levant, negligible compared to other countries with Muslim population. They were civilians from a village.
Those alive couldn't return to India, with even families abandoning them, so they returned to Afghanistan along with the central Asians and Pakistanis. Some wanted to keep fighting.
Contributing 13 low-tier fighters isn't exactly how you run an operation.

Malik Ishaq was a domestic terrorist for Pakistan, not an Afghan one.
We only know of 13 who were killed not the ones already in Afghanistan and Iraq.
LeT, Malik Ishaq and his team were not only active in Pakistan but also in Afghanistan. ISIS has caused troubles for Afghan talibans. I wonder why ISI would support both sides?
 

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I hope you know Karzai was CIA employee during the 80's, now if he is pointing fingers at US than he's doing it on instructions of CIA.
There must be something more sinister which CIA want to hide by assigning Karzai to blame them.
In real world, if Karzai has any piece of evidence, he would have asked Americans to leave instead.
Karzai is a scumbag and he has only spoken up since he has been out of power
I get that . if he was not on CIA books he wont have been installed

I like your assumption about CIA itself building a narrative against itself. seems counter intuitive but in the line of building a perception and manipulations Robert Greene says if you dont have an enemy then create one yourself.

on the other hand
lets talk about alliances of conveniences, Iran Taliban alliance or cooperation is out in the open because both face a more powerful and genocidal enemy of both which is Daesh , the one before were the NATO forces who are hated by both. I dont buy the Idea that Iran is supporting daesh (not because I have soft corner for the thugs in Qum) because Daesh is the biggest exterminator of shia followers and has engaged in a bitter fight with Iran and its allies for the years but if you are still convinced that Ayatullahs are behind the Daesh project as well then I will like to hear form you more. I try to be as objective and unbiased as I can although you will see me criticizing more KSA and its allies than the Ayatullahs but when I do I dont pull my punches but thats all just a matter of personal opinion,.

coming back to the Karzai and his present/ former employer CIA, I quoted him not because he is a role model in Afghan context but his quote was uncharacteristic of him and actually supported other similar suspicions of American collisions with Daesh and their shocking spread in the middle east which was halted by the Russian alliance, when our own countrymen from TTP and its affiliates started to leave for Iraq and Syria after the Pak army started to pound them hard and dry... I knew there will be time when they will make their journey back and will bring more "guests" with them and start another round of more violent bloodshed in Afghanistan and Pakistan and will be used to open a hot front with Iran.

We carried out Commando raids inside then USSR for goodness sake! The F16 which as lost to an A2A own goal; had been bombing Afghan Army positions.

There have been many airstrikes inside Afghanistan, enough that its not even newsworthy. Deep penetration strikes are rarer but have happened.
commandos didnt fly in jets to conduct such raids. they sneaked in disguised as Afghans sometimes with CIA personal as well.
sending ISI or SSG personal along with CIA and Afghan fighters was a different thing and easy to hide. hiding an air incursion was much harder. like I said we didnt even do it when Kabul communist regime was left on its own and even launched scud strikes inside Pakistan. one even went as far as Wah and exploded in the underpopulated area. we didnt launch any strike back.

the own A2A goal was inside Pakistan. our pilots were so careful that they didnt shoot down planes if they thought the debris will fall inside Afghanistan. giving the Soviets an excuse to escalate the fight and start open confrontation with Pakistan. there is a thread on that incident @Windjammer can help you with that.
PAF never ever conducted airstrikes on Afghan positions F-16s were only scrambled for interception (within Pakistan) or conducting escorts (of PIA & transport planes inside Pakistan) and CAP missions.
Soviets wanted us to fly inside Afghanistan. but we never fell in that trap. for unproven boastful argument it is fine to claim that we sent F-16s inside Afghanistan to hit Gorbachov and Babrak Karmal on the head but only my teenage nephews will buy this story
 

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Karzai is a scumbag and he has only spoken up since he has been out of power
commandos didnt fly in jets to conduct such raids. they sneaked in disguised as Afghans sometimes with CIA personal as well.
sending ISI or SSG personal along with CIA and Afghan fighters was a different thing and easy to hide. hiding an air incursion was much harder. like I said we didnt even do it when Kabul communist regime was left on its own and even launched scud strikes inside Pakistan. one even went as far as Wah and exploded in the underpopulated area. we didnt launch any strike back.
Actually raids inside USSR itself, ALWAYS used commandos in uniform, never Mujahideen. Using the later is an act of war, the former, well commandos often are used for recce, its an accepted part of border actions.
the own A2A goal was inside Pakistan. our pilots were so careful that they didnt shoot down planes if they thought the debris will fall inside Afghanistan. giving the Soviets an excuse to escalate the fight and start open confrontation with Pakistan. there is a thread on that incident @Windjammer can help you with that.
PAF never ever conducted airstrikes on Afghan positions F-16s were only scrambled for interception (within Pakistan) or conducting escorts (of PIA & transport planes inside Pakistan) and CAP missions.
Soviets wanted us to fly inside Afghanistan. but we never fell in that trap. for unproven boastful argument it is fine to claim that we sent F-16s inside Afghanistan to hit Gorbachov and Babrak Karmal on the head but only my teenage nephews will buy this story
Oh, F16 flew all the way to Moscow and dropped gobar on Gorby's mistress! :rolleyes:
By the late 1980's, we were actively supporting with live fire, Mujahideen ops, we did many sorties, and not just for CAP. The purpose of the bdr ops was to clear a route for Mujahideen infiltration.
 

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Good riddance.

Except for this particular Twitter handle run by a Pakistani, he was killed by Afghan-US strikes.

Hit me up when ISPR celebrates this death. I doubt it.
It's an open secret in Afghanistan that the use of Punjabi is rampant among IS.


Lol!!!! We don’t have a fantasy section yet...
 

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Pakistan would never accept this airstrike. Pakistan officially rejected Afghan govt claim of Pakistani airstrikes in Kunar. Reports indicate ISIS cheif was killed in those airstrikes. Its good Afghan govt has claimed killing him. Pakistan's new posture was much needed. This will give a face saving to Afghan govt and at the same time neutralize threats to Pakistan.
https://www.trtworld.com/asia/afgha...-air-strikes-ahead-of-pm-abbasi-s-visit-16511
 

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Not all factions of Afghan Taliban have a permanent good accord with the Pak establishment.
ISKP has proved its effectiveness in being a civilian-govt killer than a Taliban killer.
TTP and LEJ are allied to ISKP, and yeah we are arming them so that they can use those arms to eliminate both Afghan taliban and the Pakistani military.
You better stop trolling.
 

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