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The easiest and cheapest way to build a Harop-type drone is to use pulse jet technology. It is so easy, teenagers build them in their home garages.
 

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Question: Under what plausible scenario will Pakistan ever see a war w/ India, outside of some Mumbai like attack repeating itself. I'm speaking of a plausible scenario where WAR takes place, even if a relatively limited one, and not these limited surgical attacks and one-offs.
We are facing a Nazi inspired ideology that dreams of wiping out Muslims and other minorities from the face of the Subcontinent and reserved only for the superior Aryan race the Hindus, war is inevitable, right now we are in Munich 1939 before the great plunge and this war unlike the last one will open with the nukes.



 

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Establishment let Nawaz off the hook thinking he might want to calm down and spend the rest of his days in London, but they never learn. Ab wahan se beth kar geela danda de raha aur army maze le rahi hai. Nice.

For all the engineering and maneuvering we credit them for, they're pretty short-sighted. Hoping they listen to people coming out of NDU.

But considering NDU's website is straight out of the 80's, I think they might be stuck in a time-loop where everyday is a Sunday.
A military man can only do so much, you need qualified and experienced civilians masters of their fields to lead the branches, the military man can ensure loyalty and disciplined but not innovation for that you need freedom as well, it's this balancing act that the Pakistan Military needs to adopt by incorporating qualified civilians.
 

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We are facing a Nazi inspired ideology that dreams of wiping out Muslims and other minorities from the face of the Subcontinent and reserved only for the superior Aryan race the Hindus, war is inevitable, right now we are in Munich 1939 before the great plunge and this war unlike the last one will open with the nukes.



I would agree if they are similar to Nazi ideology and had complete power over India, that would be an imminent threat, no just to Pakistan, but it's neighbors and the world at large.

Question: If they are as grave as Nazi's, outside of Pakistan, how many countries, either individually or within the UN, have expressed your views about this group?
 

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I would agree if they are similar to Nazi ideology and had complete power over India, that would be an imminent threat, no just to Pakistan, but it's neighbors and the world at large.

Question: If they are as grave as Nazi's, outside of Pakistan, how many countries, either individually or within the UN, have expressed your views about this group?
You would first have to look inwards to what Indian seculars are saying about the RSS and some of the documentaries that I have posted were made by the Indians themselves, and more below:


Watch this one specially:

These are some of the sane online media outlets that you can view from India other more Bollywood jingoist pro RSS media outlets are completely insane.

Now if you look towards the current geo-political scenario of the subcontinent you would see that it's not just Pakistan and China but other countries as-well like Nepal the only Hindu majority country outside India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka who is turning against India as well because of India's expansionist and ideological policies, in Sri Lanka it was India who funded and trained the Tamil Tiger against the government of Sri Lanka and the brutal civil war that followed, Sri Lankans are aware of this, aside from Pakistan and China no other country within the subcontinent is strong enough to stand up to India alone, Nepal is starting to do so after Chinas backing, such geo-political shifts indicates the there is something seriously wrong with Indias political, expansionist and ideological policies, the US of-course will ignore all of this because you want to use India to contain China for your own self-interests.

I will list the following facts to further prove that there is a Nazi like ideology the RSS working within India to achieve their genocidal goals:

1. The current Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi is an RSS inspired Hindutva extremist, responsible for killing thousands of Muslim during the great Gujarat killings when he was the governor of Gujrat, his human rights violation were so great that even your country banned him from entering, what is even more worrying is that this pawn of the RSS was voted in power by the majority of the India Hindu population, it's like Muslims voting OBL to power, or Germans voting Hilter to power.


2. The citizen amendment act introduced by Modi in 2019 requires the minorities to present documents as proof that they are citizens of India, if they fail to provide such documents than that could face either deportation or concentration camps which are being build in mass in Assam, where have we heard about this before?

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-modi-india-detention-camps/

3. The cow mata raksha groups (Cow Vigilante groups) prevalent all over India hunt minorities specially Muslims suspected of carrying and consuming beef and brutally lynching and killing them on mere allegations, later being found out when the meat was sent to the lab that it was not cows meat but buffalos, the most worrying aspect of these brutal killings by these terrorists is the umbrella protection that RSS provides for these vigilantes to operate in freedom, majority of the time no one is punished.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/02/18/india-vigilante-cow-protection-groups-attack-minorities

Specially watch this:

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4. The forceful revocation of article 370 by modi's government which gave special status to Indian occupied Kashmir by the UN's mandate, violating all the established UNGC agreements, without the approval of Kashmiri people and politicians, arresting Kashmiri politicians and recruiting more Indian troops to total of approx 900,000 to contain the unrest in Kashmir, blocking internet access within the Kashmir valley so that any news does not leak outside of Kashmir valley and it is still blocked off to this day more than a year later, detaining more than 12000 youths removing them from their families and blinding many Kashmir youths with pallet guns, when the article 370 was revoked Amit Shah Minister of Home Affairs of Modis government promised that he will invade Kashmir under Pakistan's administration and Aksai Chin administered by China and conquer it antagonising both the countries:


Keep in mind that Kashmir is an overwhelmingly Muslim majority state and the only one within present day India, given the extreme anti Muslim policies of the so called largest democracy in the world, the adamant nature of wanting to acquire Kashmir shows Indias expansionist land grabbing mindset.

5. The demolition of the Babri Masjid by a RSS inspired Hindu mob in the 90's in which Modi was also a part off and later recently Modi's government deciding to build a Hindu Ram Temple on the demolished area.

Indias secularism is nothing but a facade, it is in actuality a Hindu rashtra (A Hindu theocratic state). The only difference between Hitlers Nazism and the RSS is that the RSS does not have a face, when Hitler was removed, Nazism itself died off, that is not the case with the RSS when Modi is removed another snake will take its place.

War with such a state is inevitable, it's not a matter of if but when, we are fully mentally prepared for the eventual outcome but unlike the Jews or the Native Americans, or the Aborigines, we won't go out quietly, this war will have reverberations even to your hemisphere.
 
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You would first have to look inwards to what Indian seculars are saying about the RSS, and some of the documentaries that I have posted were made by the Indians themselves, and more below:


Watch this one especially:

These are some of the sane online media outlets that you can view from India. Other more Bollywood jingoist pro RSS media outlets are completely insane.

Now if you look towards the current geo-political scenario of the subcontinent you would see that it's not just Pakistan and China but other countries as-well like Nepal the only Hindu majority country outside India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka who is turning against India as well because of India's expansionist and ideological policies, in Sri Lanka it was India who funded and trained the Tamil Tiger against the government of Sri Lanka and the brutal civil war that followed, Sri Lankans are aware of this, aside from Pakistan and China no other country within the subcontinent is strong enough to stand up to India alone, Nepal is starting to do so after Chinas backing, such geo-political shifts indicates the there is something seriously wrong with Indias political, expansionist and ideological policies, the US of-course will ignore all of this because you want to use India to contain China for your own self-interests.

I will list the following facts to further prove that there is a Nazi like ideology the RSS working within India to achieve their genocidal goals:

1. The current Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi is an RSS inspired Hindutva extremist, responsible for killing thousands of Muslim during the great Gujarat killings when he was the governor of Gujrat, his human rights violation were so great that even your country banned him from entering, what is even more worrying is that this pawn of the RSS was voted in power by the majority of the India Hindu population, it's like Muslims voting OBL to power, or Germans voting Hilter to power.


2. The citizen amendment act introduced by Modi in 2019 requires the minorities to present documents as proof that they are citizens of India, if they fail to provide such documents than that could face either deportation or concentration camps which are being build in mass in Assam, where have we heard about this before?

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-modi-india-detention-camps/

3. The cow mata raksha groups (Cow Vigilante groups) prevalent all over India hunt minorities specially Muslims suspected of carrying and consuming beef and brutally lynching and killing them on mere allegations, later being found out when the meat was sent to the lab that it was not cows meat but buffalos, the most worrying aspect of these brutal killings by these terrorists is the umbrella protection that RSS provides for these vigilantes to operate in freedom, majority of the time no one is punished.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/02/18/india-vigilante-cow-protection-groups-attack-minorities

Specially watch this:

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4. The forceful revocation of article 370 by modi's government which gave special status to Indian occupied Kashmir by the UN's mandate, violating all the established UNGC agreements, without the approval of Kashmiri people and politicians, arresting Kashmiri politicians and recruiting more Indian troops to total of approx 900,000 to contain the unrest in Kashmir, blocking internet access within the Kashmir valley so that any news does not leak outside of Kashmir valley and it is still blocked off to this day more than a year later, detaining more than 12000 youths removing them from their families and blinding many Kashmir youths with pallet guns, when the article 370 was revoked Amit Shah Minister of Home Affairs of Modis government promised that he will invade Kashmir under Pakistan's administration and Aksai Chin administered by China and conquer it antagonising both the countries:


Keep in mind that Kashmir is an overwhelmingly Muslim majority state and the only one within present day India, given the extreme anti Muslim policies of the so called largest democracy in the world, the adamant nature of wanting to acquire Kashmir shows Indias expansionist land grabbing mindset.

5. The demolition of the Babri Masjid by a RSS inspired Hindu mob in the 90's in which Modi was also a part off and later recently Modi's government deciding to build a Hindu Ram Temple on the demolished area.

Indias secularism is nothing but a facade, it is in actuality a Hindu rashtra (A Hindu theocratic state). The only difference between Hitlers Nazism and the RSS is that the RSS does not have a face, when Hitler was removed, Nazism itself died off, that is not the case with the RSS when Modi is removed another snake will take its place.

War with such a state is inevitable, it's not a matter of if but when, we are fully mentally prepared for the eventual outcome but unlike the Jews or the Native Americans, or the Aborigines, we won't go out quietly, this war will have reverberations even to your hemisphere.
You've spent a good amount of time in your reply, and I solidly appreciate it.👍👍👍

I feel you have not answered a fundamental question, which started with giving me a plausible scenario for Pakistan going to war with India. Then, asking who is buying the 'RSS is an existential threat, akin to the Nazis'.

You spoke of 4 core issues and I like to give my feedback on them

On Border issues:

Nepal-India, Sri-Lanka India, Bangladesh-India issue seem to be, at best, some border disagreements and nothing to do with the Nazi-like ideology. I doubt Pakistan will go to war because India has border disputes with its other neighbors

ON RSS:
You would agree with the kind of alarm bells you are rasing on RSS (saying they are the reincarnation of Nazis) is simply a Pakistan and yours truly assessment. I get some folks in India say similar stuff too. Still, what I mean is - There are no buyers of any real influence in the world that talk about the RSS as a terror group or designating them as an UN-designated terror group.

On treating their minorities:
I doubt Pakistan will go to war because India's internal group is mistreating its own minorities. If Pakistan were so inclined, they would not be so close to China. The Chinese have killed 10s of thousands of Muslims, treat minorities terribly, and treat them far far worse than India.

Kashmir:
That leaves Kashmir as a possible reason. BUT then the Kashmir issue has been stewing for 70 years or so and before the current government took office.

Kashmiris had a far worse situation pre_modi. I've seen Pakistani's talking about human rights reports that speak of extrajudicial killings, mass graves before Modi took over. If Pakistan did not attack India for those reasons back then, I can't see them doing it now because some words on a paper came into play- AKA law called 370 was passed.

Conclusion: I can't see a plausible scenario outside of a massive terror attack from state actors, like Mumbai, repeating itself. Of course, that's just my opinion.👍

P.S. some videos I could not watch. I don't understand what is being said in a video if those videos are in local languages
 
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