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    The Earth is inhabited by several species known and unknown.Each has unique ability, size and skills. However, man finds himself distinguished from others on basis of reasoning, intelligence, clothing and technology.
    The biggest question being faced by mankind since existence is:"Who is God!?".Philosophers, thinkers, scientists, popes, mullahs, strategists, pundits and Buddhists have tried to answer such question but every time it turned out to be philosophical failure.It appears as if mankind's intelligence does not support or facilitate such answer with correct reasoning.
    If we observe this earth then we find it as "Pale blue dot!" as claimed by late Carl Sagan.This ever expanding universe with amazing mechanism and engineering; the unseen existence of time yet visible mechanism of mapping through rotation and revolution of planets around bright star of any size; then such amazing details of quantum mechanics; how quarks and glueons are holding electrons along with the nuclear forces is something that has baffled us for centuries.
    However, the weakness of mankind, his reliance on few available elements such as oxygen and nitrogen; his delicate volatile nature and mortality has made him unable to travel through every dimension and galaxy.Man is in no position to speak; yet is hopeful because of little tinkering he is capable of to do so.
    So, we are unable to reach towards the nearest Andromeda galaxy and willingly give opinion about "God".We are not the only operation or process that is being monitored and controlled: There must be billions! So, we have two choices: either we should do what is directed by holy books or continue to evolve till we become capable to travel through every dimension and galaxies.
    There are several groups formed amongst us: Some follow strict orthodox books and consider this a sin and originally a threat for their very own belief.Some have completely lost hope due to poor imagination and instead of accepting their very own failures; began to blame God for all the misery.Those who believed are now considered responsible for everything.They are mocked, refered to as primates and under represented.
    I tend to disagree with active social media atheist mafia and would like to put forward this idea that God is not responsible for misery of mankind.
    Allah, according to my faith as He is called has send one hundred twenty four thousand messengers across different space-time odysseys but unfortunately they were not recognized by the targeted nations; either they were martyred, crucified, imprisoned or forced to leave.If some of them succeed then afterwards, their messages were made corrupted and manipulated for personal benefits and nations continued to practice similar actions that they were forbidden to do so.


    وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلاَّ بِلِسَانِ قَوْمِهِ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ فَيُضِلُّ اللّهُ مَن يَشَاء وَيَهْدِي مَن يَشَاء وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ .

    “We never sent any messenger except in the language of his people, to make things clear for them, and henceforth Allah lets astray who prefers to stray and admits into His guidance who prefers the guidance.”(Abraham 14:4)

    So, mankind is left with some messages that are corrupted.Please note, science and faith are two entirely different dimensions of knowledge. Science helps you to understand how universe works and religion teaches you how to live and whom should you worship.Observe that each religion has different story of God and sources are new versions or reproduction of lost pieces or manipulated references and guess what? God is not responsible for this, mankind is.If mankind had this consistency to keep and protect data effectively then there was no need to send so many messages.Mankind has miserably failed to make connection properly.In advance to that, mankind has miserably failed to recognize either a messenger is from God or is just a self claim though there is clear formula to recognize: If fruit is sweet then messenger is from God and if he is a self claimed person then there wouldn't be any fruit at all; let alone it's taste!

    In the King James Version (Matthew 7:17,18) of the Bible the text reads:

    By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
    A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.

    If a messenger was identified as a messenger of God and he has proved with miracles and kind acts of mercy; then another group out of jealousy or pride of lineage would attempt to martyr him.If he gained success and nation continues to enjoy the fruit then gen. after gen. a group of grotesque nature was born, each harvesting seeds of doubt and growing spines of lies instead of truth.Then, another messenger was sent and the cycle goes on.

    إِنَّ فِي هَذَا لَبَلَاغًا لِّقَوْمٍ عَابِدِينَ - وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ إِلَّا رَحْمَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ

    "Indeed, in this [Quran] is notification for a worshiping people. And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds." (Quran: 21:106-107)
    وَلَوْ تَقَوَّلَ عَلَيْنَا بَعْضَ الْأَقَاوِيلِ . لَأَخَذْنَا مِنْهُ بِالْيَمِينِ . ثُمَّ لَقَطَعْنَا مِنْهُ الْوَتِينَ . فَمَا مِنكُم مِّنْ أَحَدٍ عَنْهُ حَاجِزِينَ

    “And if Muhammad had made up some [false] sayings regarding Us, We would have seized him strongly; then We would have cut from him the artery. And there is no one of you who could withhold [Us] from him.” (Al-Haqqah/The Reality 69:44–47)

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    Science is the dimension that helps mankind to have better understanding for how universe works.It helps to understand when and how nature works: when it obeys and when it violates the obeyed laws.If you are little smarter at science then you will clearly understand that there is no concept of obeying or violation; in fact they are just different mechanisms adopted to maintain stability and harmony.

    Science can be a great tool for us to understand the majesty and glory of God through his signs (natural systems).However, how unfortunate of us that we have proposed mosques, churches, synagogues and temples for God and separated this marvelous piece of art, engineering, mathematics, evolution and biology because we are afraid that our corrupted versions and foolish imaginations will be mocked by his very signs.We are brainwashed to follow pagan concepts or false ideologies and when clear signs are shown to us we neglect; then we propose holy places for God and try to find or propose probably new God for this universe? If you imagine God as a man like you or titan like grotesque monster then it is not going to work.Nay! you are just imagining and comparing your very own imaginations with another imagination and that too based on nothing but assumptions.
    Why have me made such distinction? Is this because we are afraid of evolution or fixed figures that God has stated according to His status and because we are afraid that such figure will not match from our estimated scientific value?
    The word God is very heavy and whatever is being claimed should be reconsidered again.Instead of telling God what to do, compare your idol with the true model of space time and ask yourself: "Is my idol really worth it!"

    Stop blaming God, you are here for test of recognition and obedience.If you are unable to do so then do not blame him.

    Stephen Hawking was himself a man who struggled alot.The way he fought with his disability and came up with amazing concepts makes him unique on this stage.As a muslim I truly respect his intention but he was also not the jack of all trades.

    Last but not least: Atheism is not the result of enlightenment but hopelessness.The fact is that you and I are trapped in four or several dimensional ever expanding universe; yet we are bounded to three and are unable to prove or disprove anything.

    So, either you study all the faiths and decide yourself or choose whatever path is there and remember if the doomsday news will turn out to be true then nothing would be worse than becoming a fuel of scorching heat and blazing fire as compare to eternal death and no response.Technically and after seeing all signs I expect God to bring forth what he revealed through messengers and prophets.The signs through science has increased my faith and I expect more from him.

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