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    ICC orders PCB to pay 60pc of BCCI's legal cost in failed compensation case

    ICC orders PCB to pay 60pc of BCCI's legal cost in failed compensation case
    Abdul GhaffarUpdated December 19, 2018
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    The International Cricket Council (ICC) on Wednesday ordered the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to pay 60 per cent of the costs incurred by the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) and an ICC panel during the two boards' legal wrangle over a bilateral series agreement.

    The ICC, whose Dispute Resolution Committee (DRC) had last month ruled in the BCCI's favour and dismissed the $70 million compensation claim against it, today delivered another blow to the PCB.

    The global cricket governing body, in a press release today, announced that its DRC panel "has determined that the PCB should pay 60 per cent of the BCCI’s claimed costs as well as the administrative costs and expenses of the Panel" itself.

    Furthermore, the ICC said that its judgement on the matter is "binding and non-appealable".

    The PCB had filed the compensation case against India during former chairman Najam Sethi's era.

    The board's stance in the case was that the Indian board had signed an MoU with Pakistan in 2014 in order to restore the bilateral series between the two countries which have remained suspended for the last 11 years. However the BCCI has refused to honour their commitment and have not implemented the conditions agreed in the MoU.

    PCB officials were hopeful for a decision in their favour in the compensation case but the verdict announced on November 20 went against them.


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    Yaz
    about 4 hours ago
    Wow. The power of BCCI!!!



    DK PAMNANI
    about 4 hours ago
    I like it.



    Master
    about 4 hours ago
    Naya pakistan.



    Sandeep
    about 4 hours ago
    Well, thats a news. Now pcb will think twice before going to icc for such cases. Dont know how much pcb will need to pay now but to me its an additional cost and totally wasted by pcb management. Use money wisely you will need them for future. Bcci has lot of money but they are also clever in handling cases.



    Zak
    about 4 hours ago
    We do not accept this order and we will raise this issue in ICJ ,Hague.



    DarkKnight
    about 4 hours ago
    Waw that interesting now.



    Dr.Salaria,Aamir Ahmad
    about 4 hours ago
    What a great and a grave tragedy ?



    Blue Knight
    about 4 hours ago
    Poor PCB.. got another hit..



    Ahmed
    about 4 hours ago
    What a fiasco. Instead of receiving compensation they have to now fork out the legal costs of both organizations!. Why was the ICC approached? Don't they know who rules the roost there? Going to an international arbitration panel would have been better.



    Tariq Rashid
    about 4 hours ago
    Interesting turn of events, though the outcome was very much expected. Lets see how the PCB mulls over this matter.. Do they have any option to avoid pay-out as the judgement explicitly states that its binding and non-appealable..



    Yogi
    about 4 hours ago
    Instead of receiving any penny from BCCI PCB will end up paying money to BCCI. This is what happens when you take decisions by your emotions and not by logic.



    Shahbaz Ahmed Tarrar
    about 4 hours ago
    Ask Najam Seethi to pay the amount, if he knew the case is weak, so why he proceeded it??



    Swiss Neutral
    about 4 hours ago
    Every action has a reaction



    Samit
    about 3 hours ago
    Now that is some justice



    Mohan
    about 3 hours ago
    CJP, take some suo motu against the PCB! Your hard-collected dam fund will become hardly collected!



    HK
    about 3 hours ago
    Sethi - the gift that keeps on giving.



    Indian friend
    about 3 hours ago
    Ouch, that hurts !



    León
    about 3 hours ago
    BCCI saying weldone and thank you Najam Sethi.



    Dr. WHO
    about 3 hours ago
    Should not be a problem iccc doesn't know that a former captain is the pm of pakistan he will travel to sone country but will definitely pay the dues india should be rest assured



    Vishwas
    about 3 hours ago
    Good dicision



    Bilal Khan
    about 3 hours ago
    Icc is ruled by India Australia and England so what was PCB expecting???



    Shahidam
    about 3 hours ago
    Why insist on merely an MoU and then challenge on shaky ground in some kind of court with binding and unspeakable decisions? ever realized the world around you? Have it paid by Mr. Sethi who was behind all this costly expedition. Misplaced egos have cost this poor nation already enough. As for future cricketing with India, just write it off your books, for good. Also, either bring cricket back to its home grounds in Pakistan if you must keep playing, or just call cricket bye. Internal wrangling, players attitudes, misplaced priorities, mismanagement and financial losses make this one no different from Pakistan Steel, PIA, etc. Do at least some one thing right.



    Fastrack
    about 3 hours ago
    40% by BCCI.Now is that not unfair?



    LeaveAlone
    about 3 hours ago
    Ouch, it hurts?



    ijaz
    about 3 hours ago
    The ICC decision is legally non-enforceable and motivated by the BCCI who dominate ICC.

    PCB should refuse to pay it and call their bluff. Let them take PCB to court if they dare!



    RAJA CHILL
    about 3 hours ago
    I am feeling pity for PCB. What else to say after all this.



    Veer Singh
    about 3 hours ago
    So PCB didn't win $70 million but will end up losing a few million dollars. A good lesson for Pakistanis that court cases can not be won on emotions.



    Bps
    about 3 hours ago
    Wow I m very happy. I predicted this.



    auginpk
    about 3 hours ago
    @ijaz,

    In that case there will be no more matches between ICC members and Pakistan.

    The PCB case never had a chance.



    Salman Qamar
    about 3 hours ago
    Knew this was coming.



    Chopra
    about 3 hours ago
    Cry baby, cry. That’s all we can do now.



    wise1
    about 3 hours ago
    @ZAK, Dream on buddy. ICC will subtract the amount with interest from payments due to PCB.



    Babu
    about 3 hours ago
    @ZAK, The cost of fighting a case at ICJ is much higher than the penalty itself, besides if PCB looses in ICJ and is asked by ICJ to repay the expense and penalty at both ICC and ICJ than where will PCB go. Remember ICC is the boss and they know how to recover this penalty .



    RDM
    about 3 hours ago
    More than money, PCB should be really concerned about future deals with vigilant BCCI.



    Raja
    about 3 hours ago
    @ijaz,

    "PCB should refuse to pay it and call their bluff. Let them take PCB to court if they dare!"

    That's the Pakistani spirit! Pakistan gets 20-25 million dollars every year from ICC as its share of multinational tournaments run by ICC. Let's lose all that money just to save pennies!



    Mir Asif
    about 3 hours ago
    @bilal khan, The actual case was difference between MoU and Contract. PCB thought both are same, now ends up paying back.



    Fact
    about 3 hours ago
    It is ICC decision. If Pakistan gives No compensation, no international cricket for Pakistan. Best of luck



    shake chilli
    about 3 hours ago
    @ijaz, I think ICC will deduct at source from money it pays to support PCB



    Paramesh
    about 3 hours ago
    @ijaz, well at PCBs peril as any cricket board will think twice before signing an agreement with PCB. If PCB decides not to pay it.



    Indian friend
    about 3 hours ago
    @ZAK, Well the cost will be equal to 5% of Pakistan's GDP. You may have to take another loan to fight it out.



    Monsieur
    about 3 hours ago
    @bilal khan, if PCB was ruled with common sense, they wouldn't have had to go to either of those ruling the ICC...



    Naaz
    about 3 hours ago
    Pakistan is loosing our economy because of unmature politicians and cricket burocrates.



    Bhaskar
    about 3 hours ago
    @Ahmed, costs are much higher in international arbitration



    PakRAT
    about 3 hours ago
    Do I need to say anything?



    SKS
    about 3 hours ago
    @Shahidam, if pcb won the case would you give credit to Sethi?? Always trying to punch above weight & misplaced priorities is the problem.



    Sushil
    about 3 hours ago
    @ijaz,
    PCB needn't pay. ICC Will deduct the amount from PCB's receivables.



    Asim-Can
    about 2 hours ago
    It's a very common practice in these types of cases, nothing to get too excited about.



    Leo
    about 2 hours ago
    @ijaz, you wish kid ! The decision is binding and non-appealable.



    Anuj
    about 2 hours ago
    @ijaz, Before going to the ICC, PCB agreed to abide by the decisions. If they don't pay then amount will be deducted from ICC handouts they receive like all the boards.



    RAJA CHILL
    about 2 hours ago
    This game is becoming more interesting than India Pakistan cricket match. I am enjoying it...



    Samrat
    about 2 hours ago
    @ijaz, read the judgement first, it's clearly mentioned that both parties agree to outcome and no further appeal or refusal to abide by order will be acceptable.



    Phoenix
    about 2 hours ago
    @ZAK, you can not appeal that in icj.. I guess CAS would have been able to step in but binding judgement means there's very little scope for that.



    hamid shafiq
    about 2 hours ago
    Tax payers money just waste by non competent people on poor decision making. somebody should be accountable.



    wise1
    about 2 hours ago
    @Ahmed, Arbitration or law suits without ICC intervention will not be binding on either party. They can keep appealing ad nauseam with no end in sight - just spending money on legal consultants and lawyers. Even ICJ cases are not adhered to by countries all the time. So this was the best route one could take. Having said that a case based on emotion and hunch never pays off.



    joe
    about 2 hours ago
    @ijaz,
    "PCB should refuse to pay it and call their bluff. Let them take PCB to court if they dare!" Try that buddy.. Next will be no ICC team will play Pakistan. That is for sure. Everyone knows that Government has to give a ruling to play or NOT to play.. In this case, the Government of India refused and the only document that PCB could produce was an MOU, which is NEVER a legal document in any court.Kid on the street knows.



    Om
    about 2 hours ago
    @ZAK, You don't need to pay, it will be deducted by the ICC from the development funds given by them to PCB. Now go sue them if you don't like it



    Vijai
    about 2 hours ago
    The case was taken to ICC just to please the domestic audience. Anyone with basic education can differentiate between a contract and MoU. How long the institutions of Pakistan are going to take their people for a ride?



    Alien1
    about 2 hours ago
    Rubbing salt on wounds, hope pcb learns something.



    Jai Ho
    about 2 hours ago
    @ijaz, so that you lose their also and pay to them good thinking



    Nish
    about 2 hours ago
    @ijaz, Of course PCB can take ICC to court, but then ICC will suspend the primary membership of PCB if that happens. Ready to take that risk?



    Truth
    about 2 hours ago
    There was a time when PCB dictated on which ground matches should be played in India. Anyway, BCCI should allow rescheduling this amount atleast by one year.



    Veer Singh
    about 2 hours ago
    PCB probably lost all its profits from PSL1 & PSL2 fighting this frivolous case against BCCI.



    Candy
    about 2 hours ago
    BCCI is rich and powerful enough to buy justice. I feel PCB had merit in thr case



    Raj patel
    about 2 hours ago
    @ijaz, if you don’t pay forget playing cricket



    Ahmed
    about 2 hours ago
    Indian trolls, proud of bringing politics into the gentleman's game of cricket. That's not cricket, folks.



    Kashif
    about 2 hours ago
    @wise1, its a shame the BCCI cant buy the champions trophy, or next years world cup. So much for dreaming then huh.



    Babban
    about 2 hours ago
    Next time be careful



    Point blank
    about 2 hours ago
    If only they knew the difference between mou and contract ..... But who reads the dictionary before signing any deal.



    PorkiGorki
    about an hour ago
    A fair decision.



    wise1
    about an hour ago
    @Kashif, Just like PCB - you are responding on emotions. The case has nothing to do with money being paid by BCCI to win the case. It was a legal review of the case by 3 eminent judges part of DRC. DRC delivered the verdict and the compensation decision. Now saying that PCB wound not pay after having lost the case does not make any sense. When you know fully that the case can go either way. PCB’s argument was very tenuous especially when it was based on a MOU rather than a fully binding agreement.



    SB
    about an hour ago
    In Cricketing term.. Out ..Hit Wicket.



    Zain
    about an hour ago
    The ruling was expected. As it was Mou (a non-legally binding document). And the MoU was signed in exchange of supporting big three revenue sharing model that we backtracked on, breaking Mou conditions. There was zero chance of winning this case from start, still PCB went ahead. Now have to bear the economic blunder because of mistake of few.



    Subir Paul
    about an hour ago
    Excellent.



    Leo
    about an hour ago
    @Ahmed, So much for chest thumping and boasting about winning the case and milking free money out of BCCI.



    wise1
    about an hour ago
    @ijaz, ICC conducts world tournaments. ICC makes money from such tournaments. ICC then disburses the profits to various cricket boards including PCB. What do you think ICC will do if you choose not to pay?

    PCB‘s press release says the following : “The PCB notes the ICC Dispute Panel’s decision on BCCI’s claims for their legal expense incurred on the PCB-BCCI dispute. The award of significantly lesser costs than claimed by BCCI reflects that PCB's case had merits. The PCB, however, reiterates its disappointment in the original decision/award given against it.“

    PCB is mature enough to know that it has to pay.
     
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