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well the poster says 45 min at 10m AGL and then 450 km at 10m AGL
also it says it have a service ceiling of 30 t0 30000 Feet and claim its speed is 900km
To me It just means the missile is “capable” at flying that low. Operationally not even US and Israeli CMs fly that low and they have some of the best terrain mapping in the world.

Has Iran shown off it’s terrain mapping technology? Given the lack of satellites I assume they would be buying it from Russia or China.

But to fly below 25 meters you need extremely high confidence there isn’t an unknown object along the way especially if the CM is changing its flight path routinely. Maybe the use of forward radar and avoidance Algos can help in lieu of up to date terrain mapping.
 

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To me It just means the missile is “capable” at flying that low. Operationally not even US and Israeli CMs fly that low and they have some of the best terrain mapping in the world.

Has Iran shown off it’s terrain mapping technology? Given the lack of satellites I assume they would be buying it from Russia or China.

But to fly below 25 meters you need extremely high confidence there isn’t an unknown object along the way especially if the CM is changing its flight path routinely. Maybe the use of forward radar and avoidance Algos can help in lieu of up to date terrain mapping.
25m in rugged Yemeni mountains is not the same as 25m in soft hills of Saudi or Iraq.

Chances of a mid course correction going wrong and hitting an unknown terrain boundary are significantly higher in a rugged area where 25m leaves no margin for error. The same margin of 25m may be plenty in a flat area where elevation changes are much more shallow.

Although relatively speaking, all of this depends on how good TERCOM is and yeah 25m is still obscenely low, I would expect around 100m to clear everything while evading radar which sounds roughly around the figure somebody quoted after the Aramco strikes flew through Kuwaiti airspace.
 

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Although relatively speaking, all of this depends on how good TERCOM is and yeah 25m is still obscenely low, I would expect around 100m to clear everything while evading radar which sounds roughly around the figure somebody quoted after the Aramco strikes flew through Kuwaiti airspace.
basically repeated what I said.

And again theoretical capability on a poster and operational capability are two different things. Even when Israeli CMs and PGMs strike Syria you can see they are over 250 feet in the air when traveling out of abundance of caution.
 

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امیر سرتیپ خواجه فرد رئیس سازمان صنایع هوایی نیروهای مسلح در مصاحبه ای اخبار جدیدی از این حوزه اعلام کردند
به گفته وی نسخه ترابری ایران ۱۴۰ طی سال جاری آماده خواهد شد.


مقدمات خط تولید هلیکوپترصبا در حال آماده سازی است و بخشی از این هلیکوپتر در شیراز تولید خواهد شد.

سه فروند جنگنده کوثر تحویل نیروی هوایی میشود تا ناوگان کوثر نهاجا به ۶ فروند برسد .


موتور جهش ۷۰۰ به صورت پروازی تست خواهد شد و سفارش های ۱۰ و ۲۰ عددی برای تولید آن وجود دارد .

نسخه تولید انبوه جت آموزشی کوثر آذر سال جاری آماده میشود.

پهپاد فطرس با سیستم فرود و تیک اف خود کار آزمایش شده و همچنان به دنبال مشتری است.

۳ نوع پهپاد جدید آماده رونمایی است.

برخی ویژگی های جنگنده قاهر مناسب کاربران نیست و وزارت به دنبال حل این مشکل است تا قاهر مشتری پیدا کند .

^ from @Arteshban Telegram channel
 

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امیر سرتیپ خواجه فرد رئیس سازمان صنایع هوایی نیروهای مسلح در مصاحبه ای اخبار جدیدی از این حوزه اعلام کردند
به گفته وی نسخه ترابری ایران ۱۴۰ طی سال جاری آماده خواهد شد.


مقدمات خط تولید هلیکوپترصبا در حال آماده سازی است و بخشی از این هلیکوپتر در شیراز تولید خواهد شد.

سه فروند جنگنده کوثر تحویل نیروی هوایی میشود تا ناوگان کوثر نهاجا به ۶ فروند برسد .


موتور جهش ۷۰۰ به صورت پروازی تست خواهد شد و سفارش های ۱۰ و ۲۰ عددی برای تولید آن وجود دارد .

نسخه تولید انبوه جت آموزشی کوثر آذر سال جاری آماده میشود.

پهپاد فطرس با سیستم فرود و تیک اف خود کار آزمایش شده و همچنان به دنبال مشتری است.

۳ نوع پهپاد جدید آماده رونمایی است.

برخی ویژگی های جنگنده قاهر مناسب کاربران نیست و وزارت به دنبال حل این مشکل است تا قاهر مشتری پیدا کند .

^ from @Arteshban Telegram channel
یعنی تا آذر جمعا 6 تا کوثر تولید کردن؟ :what:
فیلمی از مصاحبه هست؟ من فقط متن از باشگاه خبرنگاران می بینم...
 

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Key point of interview:
Of the problems that occurred for the Iran-140 aircraft, 60% are related to the type of operating, not the form of flaw; ignored lower performance of this aircraft in Iran's climate. also there have been suggestions for changing one or two components including it's fuel pomp.
(still nothing has been done!)


Jahesh-700 turbofan engine is the result of studying one of enemy's products which we siezed along some domestic innovations. still we don't have a flight test platform to examine this engine in different air conditions! In the field of motor, we also have good newses for this year.

In seven months, the production version of Yasin jet trainer will be unveiled. it's size, dimensions and specifications has changed.

Fotros drone has passed it's auto take off and landing tests and currently is being evaluated by our armed forces and awaits their order for production. also 3 new drones are ready to be unveiled.


Qaher-313 was designed by our young professionals who had experience in aircraft design, it's a big project, Some parts of it have a good design and technology and some other parts currently don't match the needs of our armed forces which is natural. in a defined time period we will run some tests to introduce it's capabilities to the operators, if they approve it, we will produce the aircraft, otherwise, we will use the technical knowledge gained from this technology demonstrator product in our other projects.
(they still haven't run the tests due to lack of funds)
 

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Qaher-313 was designed by our young professionals who had experience in aircraft design, it's a big project, Some parts of it have a good design and technology and some other parts currently don't match the needs of our armed forces which is natural. in a defined time period we will run some tests to introduce it's capabilities to the operators, if they approve it, we will produce the aircraft, otherwise, we will use the technical knowledge gained from this technology demonstrator product in our other projects.
(they still haven't run the tests due to lack of funds)
Basically confirmation it has been shelved.
 

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as written : Amir Sartip Dehghani Zanganeh, head of the Civil Aviation Organization, recently announced the change of use of the Iran 140 military transport aircraft.

but he means AN-140 in this configuration,


or in that Iran 140 Tactical Transport Aircraft
 

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What do RII Air Industries' new fighter jets and supersonic jets look like?

The Air Industries Organization within the Armed Forces of the RII is one of the key organizations which is responsible for the planning, manufacturing and restoration of various kinds of airplanes, helicopters, drones and aircraft devices. The president of the said organization, Brigadier General Khajehfard, explains to the Club of Young Journalists (YJC) the characteristics of three important achievements of this organization.


Kowsar fighter plane

“As the Minister of Defense had planned, we will deliver at least three more Kowsar fighter jets to the Air Force during the first quarter of the current [Iranian] year [from here June 22] ”, asserted Brigadier General Khajehfard.

According to the president of the Air Industries Organization of the RII Armed Forces, the subsystems needed to make the Kowsar fighter plane are currently 100% indigenous and Iranian. “These subsystems are also used in other types of Air Force aircraft showing similarities to the Kowsar; this is a question that is often overlooked by the media, ”added the senior military official.


Yasin Supersonic Training Jet

Brigadier General Khajehfard also said the unveiling of a second Yasin training jet is scheduled for the month of Azar [November 22-December 21].

“Yasin has seen some changes in terms of dimensions and technical issues. We created and installed a special version of the still Iranian-made Owj craft on this supersonic aircraft. This means that it is by using this optimized machine that the production line of this aircraft will be launched. "


Qaher fighter plane

Brigadier General Khajehfard would like to say that he was following the news on the Qaher project even before his responsibilities at the head of the Air Industries Organization were entrusted to him, which allowed him to keep abreast of the details of the project, on its own terms.

“A number of our young technicians with experience in aircraft design have decided to plan and create a fighter jet from the ground up, and that will meet the standards of the newest generation of aircraft around the world. Thus began the Qaher project which benefits from good planning and technology. (...) We will take our time before carrying out the necessary tests and presenting the capabilities of this fighter plane. Qaher is a twin-engine, single-seat jet with two air inlets on both sides of the cockpit and two air outlets. The length of the Qaher is estimated to be less than 16 m and the distance between the two wing tips less than 11 m. This hunter is capable of carrying a large amount of state-of-the-art native ammunition and enjoys great assault power.

Qaher is capable of landing and taking off on short airstrips and most importantly the Qaher-313 is easy to maintain and restore compared to many other types of fighter jets. We also know that this Iranian fighter plane can carry up to 6 air-to-air missiles. According to former defense minister Ahmad Vahidi, this fighter plane has a very small radar equivalent area and is equipped with electro-ionic systems. Takeoff from short runways, low-level flying, and easy maintenance and catering are among the privileges of the Qaher, again according to the former defense minister. "


“Some military analysts note similarities between the Qaher-313 and the F-18 ensuring it performs well in assault missions and air wars; but we can confirm with certainty that the Qaher-313 enjoys a high operational capability in terms of low-altitude assault missions, stealth, aerial combat against enemy targets, and rapidity of action.

As for the general characteristics of this fighter plane, it remains to indicate a length of over 13m, a wing width of over 10m and a height of over 5.5m. The negative curvature of the wing tips allows the Qaher-313 to be able to maintain itself with greater stability at low speeds, an added advantage for doing high altitude patrol missions.
 

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“Some military analysts note similarities between the Qaher-313 and the F-18 ensuring it performs well in assault missions and air wars; but we can confirm with certainty that the Qaher-313 enjoys a high operational capability in terms of low-altitude assault missions, stealth, aerial combat against enemy targets, and rapidity of action.
What a load of garbage.

One plane (F-18) has existed for decades the other hasn’t even taken off the ground, but somehow already has a “high operational capability”.

Project is shelved. Nobody in Iran’s armed forces wants it.

10+ years since mock ups unveiling and they say “we are going to take our time”....what have you been doing past 10 years then?

Don’t worry @Mr Iran Eye will tell us how amazing it is based on his first hand knowledge and how Iranian F-4’s have been revamped to shoot down F-22’s.
 

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General TheImmortal is still in the field as often. Can't wait to see the next generation of Kowsar with artificial intelligence to be able to control drones?

And how long has manufacturer MiG been working on their F-35s?

Nobody wants it? It's in your head and not in the real world. Your mental tablet is an illusion
 

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General TheImmortal is still in the field as often. Can't wait to see the next generation of Kowsar with artificial intelligence to be able to control drones?
You mean the whopping 3 Kowsar Iran is delivering to the Air Force in one year? Lol

Keep over hyping washed up fighters. We need fanboys like you around to laugh at.
 

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3 officially, but what other planes are they hiding? Did you count that ??

Through the 4th generation Kowsar, they are working scientifically to bring their future aircraft to level 4+, 4 ++ and the 5th generation. They do this at the lowest possible cost. Iran is ALWAYS more advanced than their public announcement processes.

General TheImmortal is not even aware of this evidence. Iran advances, General TheImmortal stagnates in flawed criticism
 

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just a clarification, the above written by the user "Mr Iran Eye" specifically indicates:

"Kowsar fighter plane
As the Minister of Defense had planned, we will deliver at least three more Kowsar fighter jets to the Air Force during the first quarter of the current [Iranian] year [from here June 22] ”, asserted Brigadier General Khajehfard"


therefore if, as they say, it has reached mass production, the Kowsar delivered in a year, four quarters, theoretically it could be 12, which would already be an excellent result having to make every component including the engines in Iran.
 

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