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I don't have such pictures.
However, you clearly see that out of 17 missiles you've launched, not all of them hit the target.

Considering CMs have a high failure rate (25-30% even among western armies that have been building them decades) then a similar 25-30% failure rate for an exoatmospheric projectile is very good as well.

Also it’s likely Iran utilized a mixture of older Gen missiles with newest Gen missiles to gather comparable empirical data on the improved accuracy across gens in order to build better systems for tomorrow. So it’s more likely the failed systems were of older Gen variety, but new ones will also fail.

That is nature of the beast when you mass produce conventional missiles versus building 24-36 ICBMs used for doomsday scenarios.
 

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One single missile can take care of those floating targets, just one. Iran has thousands of such missiles. current range of our anti ship ballistic missiles is 2000 kilometers. a combination of swarm of drones and missiles guarantees a smooth victory against those floating targets.


Sounds a bit like Saddam back then when Iraq was crushed.
 

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Sounds a bit like Saddam back then.

Different time, different war reality, different conventional weapons etc etc.. It is set in different timeline in the future making it a complete different beast, different population numbers, everything is different including different country.. battles across 20-30 years can't be compared espcially at the rate the world technology expansion is going.. War is deception and the Americans can easily be conned as it has already happened to them in their Afghan defeat they ain't invincible and to be honest nobody is that is how empires come and go.

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Imho The Americans can conventionally get defeated by 2050 I don't mean Iran but many others in the region and outside of the region will be able to defeat the Americans conventionally and even will have the ability and logsitical means to invade the US soil itself.. As I said different times, different realities
 
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You need to come to grips that Pakistan is a nUclyA Supa DupA poWA that has single handedly defeated both the Soviet Union and the United states!🤪:omghaha:
Lol im coming to grips with that. however what loosens my grip on this supah power is how they surrendered to Bangladesh :lol::lol::lol::p::p:
You are aware that if a US aircraft carrier is sunk by any nation, the United States will retaliate with nuking that country?

They have far more nuclear weapons than any other country and they are the only country to have nuked another country. To be exact, they nuked a war-mongering, expansionist, die-hard, kamikaze loving Empire into submission.

You guys also keep mentioning the cost will be too high for the US. Not sure why?

First, the US is thousands of miles away from Iran, in fact its located in another continent that Iran can't reach militarily.

Second, they've just finished spending $2 trillion in Afghanistan and it hasn't phased the Americans. It's business as usual for them.


Well, as soon as the US got involved sinking Iranian warships during Operation Praying Mantis, Iran sued for peace.


The US achieved it's objective of depleting Iran's war fighting capability in a 10- year long war of attrition between Iraq and Iran. As a result, Iran has not dared to attack another country for 3 decades. In fact, Iranians have been reduced to bragging about their terrorism activities in the region. But even that chapter is fast closing after what the US did to Iranian Army Chief General Qassen Soleimani.

Also, what's with Iranians always yapping on about how Iranian military technology has advanced as if US military hasn't?
I can totally realize ur level of knowledge by the fact that u keep mentioning Qassam Suleimani as Iranian Army Chief. You are a great spokesperson of the US military. Its okay for u to shake in ur boots in fear of America but we dont, never ever expect us to. And btw as a bangladeshi i dont need any lectures from ur kind anyway since we defeated u and made u surrender, Please lecture Indians and not us.

My countrymen fought u and made u sign the declaration of surrender. Go nd be afraid of US military, dont expect us to be afraid. Iran to United states is wat Bangladesh was to Pakistan. yet we didnt show the scared mentality like u are showing. WE fought pakistan and made it to surrender. Do u know how we made that happen? We never feared the Pakistanis, thats how we made that happen. So Iran shudnt fear the Americans either.
 
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So exchange one superpower wannabe police officer for an upcoming superpower wannabe police officer?

What kind of logic is that. Chinese should first take care of Taiwan and South China Sea that US routinely violates before thinking about trying to be a wannabe police power.
ahahah agree to some extent.
I think the point most people on here miss is that Iran has far more leeway to manoeuvre compared to China. Iran doesn't pose any threat to US world domination/superpower rule, at most Iran is a small regional threat for US in the middle east(one region of the world). So US reaction towards an aggression from Iran will be treated differently compared to one coming from near peer rival like China. So i think US reaction towards aggression from China will be treated more seriously, played up globally and reaction from US allies(especially in the region of Asia) will also be more forthcoming/practical.

Secondly the US is also reluctant to engage in anymore major conflict in the middle east, since the US strategic planners have realised that they have wasted a lot of time focusing on fighting wars in the middle east and having their attention all drawn in there, while giving room for China to grow and increase its influence . It wasn't until a couple years that they seem to have woken upon from this reality. Reason the US pulled out from Afghanistan so fast (another conflict that was taking a lot of their resources and focus away from China) . This means that the US will be even more unwilling to engage in any major conflict with Iran(hence they backdown in this incident), since this will mean diverting attention from their main long-term rival/near peer China.

The competition between the US and China will be a long one that will define/span this coming generation. It will be economic for the most part, but also diplomatic/scientific/technological and sometimes maybe military(less so though). Iran for the most part will just be an element in this competition. So any conflict between Iran and the US or any country for that matter will be to the benefit of China actually. The more the US divert resources in facing China the better for the latter. So if i was a Chinese geo-strategic planner i would look for ways to encourage US to get more directly involved in conflicts in other region, and this means secretively supporting such countries to make this happen. However, this is far less likely to happen to be honest, since the US administration has grown aware of this reality, reason their focus is now (rightly) in the Indo pacific, hence the AUKUS defence deal we saw recently, QUAD formation, the new policy of moving almost half of US military assets to the Indo pacific etc etc.
So i will say the coming decade will be the best time for Iran to assert itself in the region and grow its wings, since they will have more leeway to act as they want in the coming years. They have the rise of China to thank for that. :-)
However, seeing some members here reading the news on this thread and interpreting it as the US being scared of Iran, or how Iran can defeat decimate US forces/navy is laughable. Make no mistake Iran will lose very badly if they ever forced the US to a real war and the damage the country will sustain will also be very meaningful. In fact not even China is at the level of the US military as of yet(they are still rising and trying to get there) and they themselves recognise this, only a fool will think Iran can defeat the US, BOTH COUNTRIES ARE NOT IN THE SAME LEAGUE AT ALL. AS i said before on this forum, nationalism is good, but too much of it can be dangerous as it removes rationality away from people's thinking which can often lead to disastrous consequences.
 

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Considering CMs have a high failure rate (25-30% even among western armies that have been building them decades) then a similar 25-30% failure rate for an exoatmospheric projectile is very good as well.

Also it’s likely Iran utilized a mixture of older Gen missiles with newest Gen missiles to gather comparable empirical data on the improved accuracy across gens in order to build better systems for tomorrow. So it’s more likely the failed systems were of older Gen variety, but new ones will also fail.

That is nature of the beast when you mass produce conventional missiles versus building 24-36 ICBMs used for doomsday scenarios.
Who told you that nonsense? When the US launched 59 cruise missiles into that Syrian airfield, 58 of them hit and only one malfunctioned.
30% Is terrible.
 

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Who told you that nonsense? When the US launched 59 cruise missiles into that Syrian airfield, 58 of them hit and only one malfunctioned.
30% Is terrible.
Hasbara desperate trolling is not going well eh :) Your squat in Palestine is coming to an end soon.

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What makes you think that lol
The US taxpayers are dead broke, power is shifting to Eurasia, Palestinian and Arab demographics spell doom like the Apartheid regime. Why do you think the Zionist cowards have been barking against Iran for over 40 years now and done didley squat? Most of the Zionists have no roots in Palestine and have dual passports and will run like hell when the real war comes.
 

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The US taxpayers are dead broke, power is shifting to Eurasia, Palestinian and Arab demographics spell doom like the Apartheid regime. Why do you think the Zionist cowards have been barking against Iran for over 40 years now and done didley squat? Most of the Zionists have no roots in Palestine and have dual passports and will run like hell when the real war comes.
Lol schizoid
 

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