• Wednesday, November 20, 2019

Iraqi FM: Iran cuts flow of 42 river tributaries to Iraq without warning

Discussion in 'Arab Defence Forum' started by Saif al-Arab, Jul 8, 2018.

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    lesson for team defence.pk
     
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    Lessons for umma-boys.
     
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    So why werent you importing from "elsewhere"already?Business is also dependent on networks and convenience(like import from a neighbor instead of a farther country which would cost more). Economically you dont have that leverage.
    But Iranian pilgrims flock in large numbers to Najaf and Karbala+other Iraqi sites and spend good money there and support your economy. Are you blind to that or just under estimating its positive impact and help for your country?

    I think Iran is more of a serious rival,but yes, it has played out sometimes like enemies. You cant put them back in their place because they played a smarter game than you. face it. Iran has outsmarted you(those Saddam days were kind of "the best"right?)after being the underdog earlier. Iraq made unstrategic, detrimental moves(whether it was intentional or unintentional is secondary)in a dangerous neighborhood.You know Iraq never should have slipped up against Iran, but Iraq did, and now Iraq must accept the new reality in the ME from giving Iran an opening.
    Why are you worried about him roaming about the ME? He's doing job and so are you so why focus on him?Ha ha at airstrike take him out and his other mullahs.airstrike MIGHt take him out, but prolly not the mullahs though. Get better and smarter and you can beat the mullahs.

    using words like "somehow"instead of strategic, or cunning, or tactful or smart shows your denial. we are ok with US starting war on Iran and taking out the regime, but we just dunno why US hasnt done it in 34yrs. so not likely to happen. you are looong due for a regional reality check. Iraq probably needs 10yrs+ before any good ol days will return.
     
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    Its obvious that those who rule in Baghdad killing all the industry and agriculture all nations make trades with each other fir goods that they can't produce not every thing even tomato they killing us to import from Iran and Turkey

    I think imposing visa on them is not a good idea
    Since millions of Iraqis visit Iran too
    Plus we can't morale we can't do that these people visit our beloved Ahlulbayt
     
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    and Iraq didnt try to destroy Iran right? Iran just came out of the deadly duel stronger.

    First of all,remember that the US allowed ISIS first steal and destroy alot of US military weaponry recently sold to Iraq. this was suspicious from Iraqis because it setup Iraq to have to purchase more weaponry to replace the stolen+destroyed equipment bought from the US. The west did help Iraq though, but tbh, i dont think they helped Iraq in 1) the right way 2) the time. Have you not forgotten when ISIS had ringed Baghdad and were closing in? are you kidding me? Iran was critical to organizing the REMNANTS of a disorganized, disloyal,demoralized leftover Iraqi army forces and supporting them SO baghdad wouyldnt fall. What did western equipment or help do then when Baghdad was in that critical time of need? Dont forget Iran was the first to actually give the kurds arms when ISIS was attacking them. timing matters.

    Your disorganized, falling apart military gave Iran her strategic opening, so whose to blame here?You allowed your country be vulnerable and now you are complaining about some other country taking advantage. are you a child? this is real national security issues. Countries pay and trade in lives and blood. its not a joke.

    Are they helping Pakistan the exact way China is?:azn:

    No, their meddling was sending sunnis from KSA into Iraq during the US invasion and after.Have you not seen any video where the Iraqi army ran over an ISIS location in Iraq and saw KSA and Qatar branded products like food and supplies? The ideology they inject and support in their proxies is also deadly.
    Iran is Iraq's guardian. Guardians do have to have control and authority first though. Iraq didnt voluntarily allow Iran to do that though and Iraq is xenophobic, but there are workarounds.

    what i know about you from your comments and opinions is that 1) you are denial of the current reality of Iraq and its real position in the ME and 2) you are a dreamer.
     
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    you're right, Arab unity isnt dead, but its not alive. Isnt it ironic you talk about "500 million" arab unity when your country is currently making a tunnel to separate an "arab brother" from your country? so ironic! besides we all know by now that those 500 million arabs have differences- different interests, different cultures, different dialects, different political structures and objectives. GCC is only culturally and economically "well functioning". You all still cant protect yourselves alone. You seem to link every ME group to Arabs, just like you're saying kurds are arabs even though they are an Iranic people. sounds like propaganda.

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    what does counting to 10 have to do with understanding middle east politics? And i am not ignorant. I havebeen reading about middle east politics for a long time now. People(like you) react harshly,because i am telling them the truth, and by nature, people dont like the truth. Did i say kirkuk would remain kurdish controlled? if i did it was probably because i thought Iraqi armed forces wouldnt be able to recover the area because they would remain unable or incompetent but whats the big deal?am i supposed to be perfect? But yes, i still believe real unity between Iraqis is dead. that doesnt seem to be proven wrong yet(you arab seems wrong about an arab issue).but then again you dont want to give me that credit but you want to criticize me when i am wrong. you are just the arab version of that guy named 500. In reality at least 50% of your posts are rants and distractions irrelevant to the debates or arguments(mentioning jews and nigerians for example.). but maybe you also "boast" of arab unity and history and capabilities because you sense people dont see arabs that way. Your propaganda about arabs wont work on me.
     
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    Typical Arab mentality.
     
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    Its not that if your country infiltrated with people who has loyalty to other nations or countries regimes then you going to suffer big time look at this

    Some shiite are loyal to you

    Some Sunnis are loyal to the Turks and Arab states

    Some Kurds are loyal to some other states

    And WE have leaders who are freezing they have no opinion on nothing all they have are advices

    So no it's not typical arab mentality

    Didn't you suffered from some other states interfering in your affairs?
     
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    Arab mentality issue exists. But this likewise exists in our fellow British Poorsian who just made the comment. Iranian society is not healthy.
     
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    Water crisis is everywhere.
     
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    well , sorry iraq . pragmatism is taking over in iran . and there's nothing you can do either .
     
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    No it's not, still Mullah controlled.
     
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    yeah i guess you know iran better from over there in southern iraq :lol:
     
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    Even the Americans have noted the tendency of Arabs states to blame their every ill on Iran.
     
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    Americans..

    All Iran does is blame great Satan USA for all of its problems. You're too stuck with the image of Iran you have in your mind, not the real Iran of today. It's no less backward than Iraq or another Arab state when it comes to social fabric, infact regime wise its worse.
     
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