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I think this sovereignty approach is a weak one as well, I miss the 80's when the approach was far more hostile to these foreigners. It was a great time and Saddam was a good man. The good old days.
Iraq needs things to change around itself before it can experience true stability. Iraq has unfortunate reality of being in middle of largest tension zone of region.
 

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In 1991 when the USSR fell and the gulf war started, the entire Muslim world sided with America. You may be right that Saddam was wrong to invade Kuwait, but it wasn't out of love for Kuwait that the Muslim world sided with America. It was their approval and trying to win brownie points with the new superpower. Suddenly after that the entire GCC was a military base for the US, as for Turkey it has always been a base for them.

Saddam was a great man, Arabs made a mistake.

My point is I'm not ashamed of the invasions, Iraq could've prevented all the invasions by behaving like Jordan or the GCC. Not a big achievement.
Mate, instead of blaming others like Turkey or Pakistan, why don't you blame the spineless Arabs!!!
The facts are in front of you. Pakistan stand against the wishes of the USA in both Gulf Wars.
It is not USA ally even now, because it stands away from their policies. Can't you see that!!

Same goes for Turkey, it is part of NATO. USA forces are stationed in Turkey as part of NATO deployment.
Iraq knew it before the war begin. Turkey didn't give in to USA hegemony, the recent events of Turkey not towing the line of the USA on S400 is an example. Turkey accepted losing the lucrative deal of F 35 but didn't budge on USA demands.

It is funny that you are attacking two vary countries with whom USA is not happy. Just because you are Arab and Arabs are deeply Racist towards Non-Arabs.

This is just the beginnings , more humiliations are waiting for the Arabs in near and far future. I have absolutely no doubts about it.
 

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If you're not ASHAMED, your either not Arab or you're a PU.SY COWARD traitor.

Your women were raped and murdered in the thousands/ little girls to women in their prime. - get that through your thick skull - you weak impotent so-called man.

One aspect is confirmed in handling you; you're a weak coward - no wonder Iraq was selected with men like you.
 

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Mate, instead of blaming others like Turkey or Pakistan, why don't you blame the spineless Arabs!!!
The facts are in front of you. Pakistan stand against the wishes of the USA in both Gulf Wars.
It is not USA ally even now, because it stands away from their policies. Can't you see that!!

Same goes for Turkey, it is part of NATO. USA forces are stationed in Turkey as part of NATO deployment.
Iraq knew it before the war begin. Turkey didn't give in to USA hegemony, the recent events of Turkey not towing the line of the USA on S400 is an example. Turkey accepted losing the lucrative deal of F 35 but didn't budge on USA demands.

It is funny that you are attacking two vary countries with whom USA is not happy. Just because you are Arab and Arabs are deeply Racist towards Non-Arabs.

This is just the beginnings , more humiliations are waiting for the Arabs in near and far future. I have absolutely no doubts about it.
Turkey's actions | Erdogan's populist speeches. Separate them, his words are tough but their actions don't clash majorly with the US. The S-400 and F-35 deal is not a major thing, just an equipment purchase which reached a disagreement. They have enabled the 1991 gulf war and the 1991-2003 northern-Iraq no-fly zone through their Incirlik air base. That was a major thing actually.

Turkey ruined Libya with the US/French only to seek their fake Islamist agenda today, whilst promoting secularism in their homeland. No one needs such hypocrites, the Arab world is internal crisis and these monkeys are exploiting it by using Islam. Unfortunately many Arabs don't see this.
 

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Mate, instead of blaming others like Turkey or Pakistan, why don't you blame the spineless Arabs!!!
The facts are in front of you. Pakistan stand against the wishes of the USA in both Gulf Wars.
It is not USA ally even now, because it stands away from their policies. Can't you see that!!

Same goes for Turkey, it is part of NATO. USA forces are stationed in Turkey as part of NATO deployment.
Iraq knew it before the war begin. Turkey didn't give in to USA hegemony, the recent events of Turkey not towing the line of the USA on S400 is an example. Turkey accepted losing the lucrative deal of F 35 but didn't budge on USA demands.

It is funny that you are attacking two vary countries with whom USA is not happy. Just because you are Arab and Arabs are deeply Racist towards Non-Arabs.

This is just the beginnings , more humiliations are waiting for the Arabs in near and far future. I have absolutely no doubts about it.
He said nothing about Pakistan, and no, Arabs by far and large are not racist people. That is people projecting upon them and hateful for no reason. The Mahdi is Arab and most martyrs in the Malhama-Al-Kubra are Arab too. The people who gonna form the Caliphate with the Mahdi in the end times are Arab.
If you're not ASHAMED, your either not Arab or you're a PU.SY COWARD traitor.

Your women were raped and murdered in the thousands/ little girls to women in their prime. - get that through your thick skull - you weak impotent so-called man.

One aspect is confirmed in handling you; you're a weak coward - no wonder Iraq was selected with men like you.
My friend it's better for you two to end this spat now, it's not a good look on either of you God made examples out of everything and everyone in this world so the spat can go back and forth forever. Just calm down you too and delete your posts with this stuff. I'll delete this post too after I see you guys chilled out.
 

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If you're not ASHAMED, your either not Arab or you're a PU.SY COWARD traitor.

Your women were raped and murdered in the thousands/ little girls to women in their prime. - get that through your thick skull - you weak impotent so-called man.

One aspect is confirmed in handling you; you're a weak coward - no wonder Iraq was selected with men like you.
If Iraq didn't resist the west and experienced no war, a pajeet like you would be there today as a taxi driver seeking jobs, if not you your fellow pajeets would be doing it. Your attempts don't work, I hope that one day you'll be an Arab too. Till that day you are not human.
 

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Relax CamelGuy and Unite, delete your posts and get back to topic.

On topic, I'm curious why Iraq is not considering Russian jets?
 

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I'm happy being part of a nation with a military 700k strong with nuks! - what do you have? oh sorry, that's right! fu.k all. Cause you were too busy pandering to the west while they raped your country dry.

Listen LOSER, you have no leg to stand on. Keep the delusions amplified and keep living that wet-dream - cause that's all you have.

The first thing the Iraqi men did when your daddy put boots on the ground was they removed their uniform and did a legger. lol - losers. (that's actually confirmed)

There was no war - it was a simple gang-rape.

You and your lot left your vulnerable defenceless - bunch of delusional losers.

Now you're talking about buying French toys. Laughable clowns you people are.

I heard a lot of Iraqi men applied to be American interpreters during the gang-raping of Iraq - were you one of the applicants?
 

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It just some banter, but what he's saying is he doesn't want Iran and Turkey to interfere in his country's politics. Iran arms proxy militias in Iraq to threaten the Iraqi gov't and advance Iranian interests while Turkey embarks on operations in northern Iraq without their permission some of the times. He doesn't mind cooperation with them but he also believe in sovereignty of his nation.
Everyone love and care about sovereignty it was unanimous decision to disable iraq countries sacrifies their intrest when US involve everyone in region and specially muslim countries to dismental another muslim country now after long time of sucking its resources rest of the countries wants some left over. we sud hate the root cause and then other are also deserve to be hated cuz they damaging another muslim country but making a hate line between arabi and ajami is not suitable we have very few reasons to be united and we sud not be careless to push each others in monsters mouth.
i hope you understand and see the bigger picture.
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In 1991 when the USSR fell and the gulf war started, the entire Muslim world sided with America. You may be right that Saddam was wrong to invade Kuwait, but it wasn't out of love for Kuwait that the Muslim world sided with America. It was their approval and trying to win brownie points with the new superpower. Suddenly after that the entire GCC was a military base for the US, as for Turkey it has always been a base for them.

Saddam was a great man, Arabs made a mistake.

My point is I'm not ashamed of the invasions, Iraq could've prevented all the invasions by behaving like Jordan or the GCC. Not a big achievement.
Coming back to the point that started this discussion, two things that deter an enemy from invading a country, regional allies that would stand up for u ( this is not a foolproof method yet it makes ur enemy think twice before any adventure), the second thing is nuclear weapons which ensures no one messes with u, Iraq never could have the second thing hence it needed the first one, now for future reference avoid such a situation again, Iraq should try to slowly increase there cooperation with regional countries, make it so that they have high stakes in stability of Iraq, so that the next time the devil comes knocking, it wont be so easy for him. In Pakistan's case, we dont give damn about any other country when push comes to shove cause we have nuclear weapons.
 

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It's true, I am sad to say Iraqis are not such racists and seem to love the enemies to our east. We have an uneducated populace, i'd close all the Shi'a shrines to start with.

i have seen racism in everywhere red necks in us to italian to arabs even Pakistanies can be raciest i dont mind but when it comes to nation or islam we sud be careful and respectful to not to hurt each other islams center of gravity is arab world other wise tajik uzbak and afghani racism is classic.
If you're not ASHAMED, your either not Arab or you're a PU.SY COWARD traitor.

Your women were raped and murdered in the thousands/ little girls to women in their prime. - get that through your thick skull - you weak impotent so-called man.

One aspect is confirmed in handling you; you're a weak coward - no wonder Iraq was selected with men like you.
Calm down bro iraq is just an example it cud have been us just like afghanistan yamen syria or Kashmir.
 

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I'm happy being part of a nation with a military 700k strong with nuks! - what do you have? oh sorry, that's right! fu.k all. Cause you were too busy pandering to the west while they raped your country dry.

Listen LOSER, you have no leg to stand on. Keep the delusions amplified and keep living that wet-dream - cause that's all you have.

The first thing the Iraqi men did when your daddy put boots on the ground was they removed their uniform and did a legger. lol - losers. (that's actually confirmed)

There was no war - it was a simple gang-rape.

You and your lot left your vulnerable defenceless - bunch of delusional losers.

Now you're talking about buying French toys. Laughable clowns you people are.

I heard a lot of Iraqi men applied to be American interpreters during the gang-raping of Iraq - were you one of the applicants?
That's why you're in the UK

Pakistan has been under America for decades, drone strikes whenever they want and you were drowning in terrorism whilst you never faced what Iraq went through. US military aid packages.

stfu and go focus on the Indians who no one gives two shits about.
 

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Good luck to Iraq and its people. They have suffered enough and the entire ummah is to be blamed for their misery. Its only our internal politics and delusional leaders that allowed foreigners to invade and destroy Muslim lands.

Pakistanis have lots of love for our Muslim brethren and Insha'Allah we will get out of this mess. Please ignore the keyboard warriors ruining this thread.
 

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That's why you're in the UK

Pakistan has been under America for decades, drone strikes whenever they want and you were drowning in terrorism whilst you never faced what Iraq went through. US military aid packages.

stfu and go focus on the Indians who no one gives two shits about.
LOL, so you're weak arse been humbled now. Learn your lesson - don't talk shit on the internet, unless you willing to go all out!

And get rid of that supremacy bullocks - it sounds stupid coming from an Arab, particularly an Iraqi.

Identity and location checks are easy!
 
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First Americans made them buy billions of dollars worth of stripped down junk and now withheld their servicing as well. Probably every F16 has got an American sitting next to it telling them where it will be used.
 

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