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Featured Iran's strategic port offer to help India bypass Pakistan

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  1. Force-India

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    Oh noes, its game over. Man Pakistan is so strategically geographically historically chemically mechanically important. Please help us deliver the samosa to Afghanistan. Please. :(
     
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    Gotta love the Iranians, now that they have the upper hand they are really going to milk the Veggies for 8 Billion before they allow them access, how the tables have turned from the days india was milking iran for oil under sanctions.
     
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    pakistan can easily block Iran as ships will be very close to Pakistani waters or in Pakistani waters. i think Iran is turning away from Pakistan. Pakistan needs to do something or else its going to gain another adversary.
     
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    I understand your "veg samosa" factor :lol:, but what you don't understand is that 1) Islamabad doesn't want to open its country for the route 2) Delhi consider Pakistan route a bit dangerous and unsafe.

    And again, Afghanistan, is not what India is looking at only. We are looking at Iran, Middle east and Central Asia. Having our own dedicated port in Iran gives us the freedom to do business as we please. Also given the hot and Cold relations with Pakistan, India doesn't want to be at the mercy of Pakistan for its trade. So the "veg samosa" route would not work for India
     
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    This isn't bad news for Pakistan because Chabahar provides electricity to Gwadar:

    Energy trade: Nepra signals approval for Iran power import - The Express Tribune

    "Pakistan was currently importing 40 MW from Iran for coastal areas of Balochistan. The import of power was being enhanced by additional 100 MW for Gwadar port for which an agreement had already been signed. It was informed that M/s SUNIR of Iran would construct the transmission line on both sides of the border for which negotiations on award of contract were in progress. Export Development Bank of Iran would be extending credit of $55 million to NTDC/PEPCO for construction of transmission line."

    Iran Give $55M For Power Transmission Line - Gwadar Iqra Associates


    The only thing we Pakistanis were concerned about is india supplying weapons to terrorists through Iran but i doubt the Iranians would allow such a thing considerate that Pakistan remained neutral in the Yemen conflict.
     
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    You agree or not Chahabar will compete with Gwadar. Gwadar is built by the Chinese to connect the sea with its wild west. In that it has a limited use. On the other hand Chahabar is easy route to Middle east and Europe.
     
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    Hahaha atanz nay Chah Bahar ki Chah khazan kar deee. Lolzzzzz

    That translates as , Atanz turned Chah Bahar (Bahar means spring) into Chah Khazan (Khazan means autumn)

    Dont for gods sake embarass urself ,its very expensive route for india .and with the highway passing thru afghan talib held province nimroz, we can only wish u luck
     
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    India would not do anything that would destabilize Pakistan from Iran. It is simply not in India's interest.
     
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    Not just that india is deperate to get contract of newly discovered iranian gasfield farzad b gas field,currently iranians showed them :tdown:

    Yes india considers Afgahn route via pakistan unsafe thats why india has been crying and complaining for years regarding pakistan not allowing to indian goods access to afghanistan.
    Pata hota nahi hai ajatay hain internet pay.

    Y else india complains abt saarc? Do u even know?
     
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    Even if india wanted to it couldn't, not through Iran at least. This is where our neutrality in Yemen has come into great use.
     
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    Yes pakistan is. Why then india doesnt want pakistan to quit saarc??

    Educate urself. And why india cares so much abt GB? Lolz
     
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    Have you read are of my post? What you listed is one point. The most important point is that India doesn't want to be at the mercy of Pakistan for its trade with Central Asia and Middle East.
     
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    Oh plzzzz . India would desperately want it thru pakistan only,do u know how costly chahbahar is for india, the construction etc and then the transportation costs?
     
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    Just imagine this.

    Both Chabahar port and Gwadar port with CPEC connectivity are fully operational. Forget about samosa or oil and gas.

    CPEC will be trade corridor for China. Chabahar for India.

    So tell me which country has bigger economic muscle and bigger commerce? India or China?

    Indians in some of their elitist illusion try to compare themselves with Chinese. The fact is they are fraction of what Chinese economy is and scale of worldwide investments China is making in mining, industry and infrastructure worldwide.

    I dont agree CPEC and Chabahar will be win win situation. In a fancied environment it can be, when India stops its obsession with suppressing and subverting Pakistan. But with the situation as it is, its going to be case of competition.

    Why would PM Modi, in his utter foolishness protest to China regarding CPEC? His concern for CPEC shows Indian mindset and depth of its smallness.
     
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    Exactly...even if you think India is helping Baluchs, it will not be from Iran. The cost of this will be the relationship between India and Iran. Iran is the one of the most important partner for India in this region.