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One person in Denmark started to burn Holy Quran few years ago.

Now look at it birth place of Islam , dear prophet and holy Quran
One of the sweetest ego checks of God , Saudi Arabia one place higher than Denmark in less than a decade :agree:
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By nonself citations Denmark beats them. Non-self-citations is a true marker of R&D. It shows how your work is valued by others.
 

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By nonself citations Denmark beats them. Non-self-citations is a true marker of R&D. It shows how your work is valued by others.
If you look at the growth rate Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries are doing good.eventually Muslims will catch up in all categories.
Pakistan every year jumping over multiple countries :)

Israel share 45% at 1996 and 9% at 2020 in middle east.
 

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By nonself citations Denmark beats them. Non-self-citations is a true marker of R&D. It shows how your work is valued by others.
Truthfully, Western nations have a leg up given just how much funding research gets there...spirit of scientific inquiry is quite dead in West Asia and has been since the mongol invasions.
 

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What many on this forum DON'T understay is that
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Iran wasn't that hard sanctioned and could shop (nearly or completely to a certain point) in high tech western countries (like Turkey), it would be Dubai in civilian sector and military much more advanced than any other muslim country.
I would respect that fact, even as a israeli Jew.
Iranians aren't a bunch of tent arabs with cheap ak derivates.
 

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What many on this forum DON'T understay is that
IF
Iran wasn't that hard sanctioned and could shop (nearly or completely to a certain point) in high tech western countries (like Turkey), it would be Dubai in civilian sector and military much more advanced than any other muslim country.
I would respect that fact, even as a israeli Jew.
Iranians aren't a bunch of tent arabs with cheap ak derivates.

+1
 

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If you look at the growth rate Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries are doing good.eventually Muslims will catch up in all categories.
Pakistan every year jumping over multiple countries :)

Israel share 45% at 1996 and 9% at 2020 in middle east.

Just by non-self-citation in JCR-approved international standard journals, Iran beats other Islamic countries by a huge margin. The gap is gonna increase more and more.
 

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Iranian Universities ranked No 1 in Islamic world.
Prestigious "Leiden Ranking 2022" for world university rankings
The Leiden Ranking is produced by the Centre for Science and Technology Studies (CWTS) at Leiden University in the Netherlands.

Among Islamic countries, Iran ranks first with 44 universities, Turkey ranks second with 32 universities and Egypt ranks third with 10 universities.

 

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a complete BS list. Irans scientific journal are as good as report written by 10 year old. They have no impact factor. No citations. They are literally copy pasting journals and publishing it.
Actually this kind of unethical work is frowned upon in engineering and research community. Also another proof of this sham list is iran has no significant contribution to any field of engineering or science.

Bro, you focus on Bajwa and PDM. Iran is doing much better than us. We sell our country to the highest bidder. Iran has self worth and doesn't sell its country to outsiders.

What many on this forum DON'T understay is that
IF
Iran wasn't that hard sanctioned and could shop (nearly or completely to a certain point) in high tech western countries (like Turkey), it would be Dubai in civilian sector and military much more advanced than any other muslim country.
I would respect that fact, even as a israeli Jew.
Iranians aren't a bunch of tent arabs with cheap ak derivates.

Ohhh. You have a soft spot for the Iranians. Interesting. Why are Germans always intrigued by Iran? Is it because of the Aryan theory?
 

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Iranian Universities ranked No 1 in Islamic world.
Prestigious "Leiden Ranking 2022" for world university rankings
The Leiden Ranking is produced by the Centre for Science and Technology Studies (CWTS) at Leiden University in the Netherlands.

Among Islamic countries, Iran ranks first with 44 universities, Turkey ranks second with 32 universities and Egypt ranks third with 10 universities.


Sometimes I wonder, would we be at this stage if Shahi times continued without revolution?
 

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Sometimes I wonder, would we be at this stage if Shahi times continued without revolution?
الله أعلم .....

Iran has great potential whatever the regime is.

Probably Iranian would be sending students to Europe, US, universities ... Like the Khaliji in the 80's to early 2k.
 

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No. 1 in the Islamic world, 15 Globally, by number of Scientific and Technical Journal Articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._of_scientific_and_technical_journal_articles

(2020-Current, by nonself citations of peer-reviewed published research on SJR)


Engineering


Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 9


https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=2200

Chemical Engineering

Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 7

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=1500

Aerospace Engineering

Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 5

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?area=2200&year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&category=2202

Electrical and Electronics Engineering


Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 11

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?area=2200&year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&category=2208

Biomedical Engineering


Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 15


https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?area=2200&year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&category=2204

Mechanical Engineering

Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 11

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?area=2200&year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&category=2210Materials

Sciences


Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 9

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=2500

Pharmaceutical Sciences

Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 8

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=3000

Energy Sciences

Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 6

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=2100

Chemistry


Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 10

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?area=1600&order=itp&ord=desc&year=2020

Physics

Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 16

https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=3100

Biological Sciences


Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 17


https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=1300

Mathematics

Islamic world ranking 1, Global Ranking 8


https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?year=2020&order=ci&ord=desc&area=2600
Citation ranking is a function of how many students there are, more students - more citations

Doesn't make you better than anyone below you, you really think countries like France or Italy are worse than Iran in anything in regards to science? lol
 

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الله أعلم .....

Iran has great potential whatever the regime is.

Probably Iranian would be sending students to Europe, US, universities ... Like the Khaliji in the 80's to early 2k.
Having lived and educated during the shah era I have given this a lot of thoughts and here is my personal view...Iran and South Korea in late 1970s were almost equal in many terms..we had south Koreans working in Iran (non military) and they would comment that Iran is not far from their industrial developments which was mainly "under license production" of foreign brands..just as Iran was..one big assembly house ...then we had our revolution and 8 years of war while south Koreans carried out with in-house brands ..and in the process they became an economic power house and a political bitch of the United State.

Same would have happened to Iran...there would be Iranian brands in US and Europe but we would be in full compliance with U S wishes...not something that goes well with Iranian way of thinking..we are descendents of an Empire and can not become anyone's bitch..

So history did its job and now we are not too far from having our brands and being fully independent at the same time..yes you can have your cake and eat it too !!!.lol
 

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Citation ranking is a function of how many students there are, more students - more citations

Doesn't make you better than anyone below you, you really think countries like France or Italy are worse than Iran in anything in regards to science? lol
all you need to know is that in overall science and engineering, Iran has overtaken Israel, especially if you exclude all the financial and technical help Israel gets from US.
 

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