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MAKRAN 441 and the frigate SAHAND 74 in Danish waters
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As a former oil tanker, the Makran 441 did not have to prove that it knew how to navigate distant seas, but this mission has definitively shown that the Sahand 74 also has excellent navigation skills.
You know whats interesting? I think western countries are BANBOOZLED by the Makran....the Makran is low key another genius Iranian creation - Its a brilliant alternative, deadly, covert, Aircraft carrier LITE IMO.

Thing about this Makran is to THINK about it, not fall for the visuals - Its top area is as large as many MPDs/LHD? and Aircraft carriers....it carries many fast boats, helicopters, missiles, naval marines, UUV devices? etc this is a capability that only top navies in the world possess, but Iran basically made it happen, for naval warfare, its revolutionary, and its not because i even give a damn about it, i cant see crap on it much, but its EXISTENCE and presence and confidence with its flotilla, another Iranian warship, sends a powerful message...thats WHY all western countries are tracking it 247.....its an asymmetrical naval aircraft carrier...it can travel the world, and bring surprises such as fake weapons to enemies and adversaries.
 

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That sort of wear and tear is not surprising for 11k nautical miles over 2 months without any port stops or calls. It might not even be rust and can be resolved once they reach their destination.

Compare those examples again (including the Makran) and you will notice that Sahand is worse off than all of them combined.

The paint is peeling off the Sahand, the rust is one thing, but the paint peeling off means the paint used was not sufficient for the harsh conditions of the open seas.

I assume Iran will learn from this and Sahand will need to back in for a fresh salt water resistant coat of paint.
 

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Compare those examples again (including the Makran) and you will notice that Sahand is worse off than all of them combined.

The paint is peeling off the Sahand, the rust is one thing, but the paint peeling off means the paint used was not sufficient for the harsh conditions of the open seas.

I assume Iran will learn from this and Sahand will need to back in for a fresh salt water resistant coat of paint.
Unrelated, but I feel that the IRGC-N will come up with VLS ship before IRIN does. I think this is certain.
 

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Why does the Sahand look so old in this photo? Rust and peeled paint everywhere.

Didn’t this just get commissioned recently?
salt waters do that to you they are moving in rough oceans non stop for 2 month no time for maintenance this happens to every ship be it Iranian or not, until they dock in port, they will clean it and pint it in one day when the dock

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Compare those examples again (including the Makran) and you will notice that Sahand is worse off than all of them combined.

The paint is peeling off the Sahand, the rust is one thing, but the paint peeling off means the paint used was not sufficient for the harsh conditions of the open seas.

I assume Iran will learn from this and Sahand will need to back in for a fresh salt water resistant coat of paint.
Sahand is a frigate it's not built to move in waters that 33000 ton ships move in, it's a miracle that she's not torn a part
 

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Sahand is a frigate it's not built to move in waters that 33000 ton ships move in, it's a miracle that she's not torn a part
for what I wrote:
"but this mission has definitively shown that the Sahand 74 also has excellent navigation skills."
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as far as rust is concerned, if they have paint on board and sea conditions allow it, often some interventions on the superstructures and the main deck are also carried out during navigation.
Indeed it seems that some sailors have overalls, who knows, maybe they are already carrying out some rearrangement work
 

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Last I heard the Makran had caught fire and sunk. Western media made a big deal out of it saying that "Iran's largest navy ship catches fire and sinks". It's good to know that it was retrieved and is even sailing again so soon after the fire. Some people even on this forum were panicking when it happened. I told them, it's not the end of the world.
Is what you write a joke?
Otherwise you are wrong ship, the one that caught fire and sank is Kharg 431
 

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If you can cross the Atlantic with this
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Then obviously it is not a problem with Sahand either.
Exactly, there are plenty of civilian yachts that can cross ocean.

The issue for Sahand isn’t being able to survive in open water, it’s having the fuel/supplies/maintenance to survive the trip.

If the Makran was not with Sahand it wouldn’t survive. It’s not a blue ocean ship made for such long trips.
 

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