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IRGC and the IR leadership in general have recently started to warm up a bit and respond in similar fashion. Notice how all the responses by Iran only result in material damage and no human life at all. I guess this will change as well in the future.
Wow 2 ships and a botched IED outside Israeli embassy in India. Yeah Iran really is warming up *rolls eyes*

Meanwhile Israel has conducted dozens of strikes on oil tankers and sea weapons transports costing billions that could have gone to valuable R&D military programs (Air Force, navy, army, etc).

Oh and btw Israeli air strikes targeted iran backed area in Damascus last night.

Iran shouldn’t get into this game when clearly it has no interest in revenging General Allahdadi, General Solemani, and Fakhrizadeh and dozens more Iranians who have died that Iran/Israel dont mention.
 

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Wow 2 ships and a botched IED outside Israeli embassy in India. Yeah Iran really is warming up *rolls eyes*

Meanwhile Israel has conducted dozens of strikes on oil tankers and sea weapons transports costing billions that could have gone to valuable R&D military programs (Air Force, navy, army, etc).

Oh and btw Israeli air strikes targeted iran backed area in Damascus last night.

Iran shouldn’t get into this game when clearly it has no interest in revenging General Allahdadi, General Solemani, and Fakhrizadeh and dozens more Iranians who have died that Iran/Israel dont mention.
I agree there are a lot of cases left to be avenged but you are really naive for swallowing the Israeli narrative so easily. Why would Iran place a weak soundbomb 50-100 metres away from the Israeli embassy in New Delhi? What would it achieve? Finding a group of 10,20 Indians who are willing to smash a truckload of explosives against the Israeli embassy in India is not hard at all.. why would you put a low intensity soundbomb on the streets a few hundred meters away from the target? Use some common sense. Many of these ''foiled attempts'' are fake reporting deliberately injected into the media to blunt a future offensive by Iran. In case you are still not getting it. It's all fake from the supposed assasination of US envoy to South Africa to shooting down McKenzie's helicopter in Iraq they are basically telling Iran through this way that they are watching and should not attempt any attack at all.
 
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I agree there are a lot of cases left to be avenged but you are really naive for swallowing the Israeli narrative so easily. Why would Iran place a weak soundbomb 50-100 metres away from the Israeli embassy in New Delhi? What would it achieve? Finding a group of 10,20 Indians who are willing to smash a truckload of explosives against the Israeli embassy in India is not hard at all.. why would you put a low intensity soundbomb on the streets a few hundred meters away from the target? Use some common sense. Many of these ''foiled attempts'' are fake reporting deliberately injected into the media to blunt a future offensive by Iran. In case you are still not getting it. It's all fake from the supposed assasination of US envoy to South Africa to shooting down McKenzie's helicopter in Iraq they are basically telling Iran through this way that they are watching and should not attempt any attack at all.
Because it’s a warning. Like when Iran targeted a Israeli diplomats wife in India in 2012 and hurt her.

Blowing up an embassy? Are you out of your mind? That’s a declaration of war. Not to mention it goes against the rules of war targeting diplomats and would hurt Iran’s image across the world.

This isn’t 1979 anymore, grow up.
 

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Because it’s a warning. Like when Iran targeted a Israeli diplomats wife in India in 2012 and hurt her.

Blowing up an embassy? Are you out of your mind? That’s a declaration of war. Not to mention it goes against the rules of war targeting diplomats and would hurt Iran’s image across the world.

This isn’t 1979 anymore, grow up.
Ever heard of plausible deniability? Well, i got news for you, that is how Iran operates for nearly 4 decades. And how is that different from killing state officials and scientists, professors? Blowing up the Israeli embassy won't change the current status quo one iota in fact it will make the Israelis think a million times before committing another sabotage act. These supposed half assed ''Iranian attacks'' are nothing more than a media ploy to prevent Iran from carrying out an actual attack. Use common sense, the reports you see about Iranian plots (without actually doing any damage at all) has a high chance of being a pretty succesfull warfare tactic. If you are afraid of the Israeli response then you might as well sit back and receive the blows.. how did that work out till now? Eventually, something BIG going to happen, mark my words.
 

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Ever heard of plausible deniability? Well, i got news for you, that is how Iran operates for nearly 4 decades. And how is that different from killing state officials and scientists, professors? Blowing up the Israeli embassy won't change the current status quo one iota in fact it will make the Israelis think a million times before committing another sabotage act. These supposed half assed ''Iranian attacks'' are nothing more than a media ploy to prevent Iran from carrying out an actual attack. Use common sense, the reports you see about Iranian plots (without actually doing any damage at all) has a high chance of being a pretty succesfull warfare tactic. If you are afraid of the Israeli response then you might as well sit back and receive the blows.. how did that work out till now? Eventually, something BIG going to happen, mark my words.
Only a coward would attack a US embassy. How hypocritical of Iran would be to almost have gone to war with the Taliban in 1990’s when they beheaded several Iranian diplomats only to turn around do a similar cowardly attack on Israel?

All attacks should be against valid military targets. And Plausible deniability doesn’t work when you drive a truck full of explosives into an embassy. As if Israel and Mossad wouldn’t know who would did that. I mean really.

If you want to be animal like the enemy then be my guest, but men fight on the battlefield not against civilians and diplomats.
 

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Ever heard of plausible deniability? Well, i got news for you, that is how Iran operates for nearly 4 decades. And how is that different from killing state officials and scientists, professors? Blowing up the Israeli embassy won't change the current status quo one iota in fact it will make the Israelis think a million times before committing another sabotage act. These supposed half assed ''Iranian attacks'' are nothing more than a media ploy to prevent Iran from carrying out an actual attack. Use common sense, the reports you see about Iranian plots (without actually doing any damage at all) has a high chance of being a pretty succesfull warfare tactic. If you are afraid of the Israeli response then you might as well sit back and receive the blows.. how did that work out till now? Eventually, something BIG going to happen, mark my words.
Blowing up an Israeli Embassy would make them think a million times before committing another sabotage act? You should know that is a big mistake in that thinking and the Israelis don't forget. Attacking an Israeli military target is one thing because they know its live with the sword die by the sword so they accept that if they get attack, but attacking civilian targets makes them go around assassinating people responsible for such attack. Even the U.S. don't forget when somebody attacks our embassies. And your general was killed because of the attack on the U.S. embassy in Iraq, don't deny it.

And plausible deniability? Wasn't the purpose of attacking is to send a message that it was us and don't mess with us?
 

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Blowing up an Israeli Embassy would make them think a million times before committing another sabotage act? You should know that is a big mistake in that thinking and the Israelis don't forget. Attacking an Israeli military target is one thing because they know its live with the sword die by the sword so they accept that if they get attack, but attacking civilian targets makes them go around assassinating people responsible for such attack. Even the U.S. don't forget when somebody attacks our embassies. And your general was killed because of the attack on the U.S. embassy in Iraq, don't deny it.

And plausible deniability? Wasn't the purpose of attacking is to send a message that it was us and don't mess with us?
Our general in Iraq assassinated because he was on a mission to reduce tension between Iran and KSA and USA didn't want that. other wise you guys well knew the attack come from an area which no Iranian allied group work there
 

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Our general in Iraq assassinated because he was on a mission to reduce tension between Iran and KSA and USA didn't want that.
Yeah right, and meeting the PMU leader that was killed with him can make that possible. Of course they want to make it look like he was there for peacemaking negotiations and not more plans to attack the U.S. in Iraq, it would make it look more justified in killing him. Could have easily went to Qatar Kuwait or Saudi Arabia itself for that. But no, goes to Iraq just after the attack on the U.S. embassy.
 

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Yeah right, and meeting the PMU leader that was killed with him can make that possible. Of course they want to make it look like he was there for peacemaking negotiations and not more plans to attack the U.S. in Iraq, it would make it look more justified in killing him. Could have easily went to Qatar Kuwait or Saudi Arabia itself for that. But no, goes to Iraq just after the attack on the U.S. embassy.
Iraq claims not ours and you yet to proof the attack was done by pmu and the Iraqi prime minister was the mediator , why they must have held the meeting in Kuwait or Qatar or Saudi Arabia :crazy:.
and why not PMU leader go to airport to visit him . its norm to someone of similar status go to visit official of other countries in airport and he was the nearest official in Iraq who hold a position as he officially hold in Iran and more importantly they were friends
 
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Iraq claims not ours and you yet to proof the attack was done by pmu
Of course it was done by the PMU. And the Iraqi leaders with Shiite majority in the parliament with Iranian backed militias running around had to explain why he was in the country. Not like they can say oh he was planning more attacks.



Iraqi protesters have withdrawn from the perimeter fence of the United States embassy in Baghdad, after the pro-Iran Popular Mobilisation Units (PMU) paramilitary group asked them to leave.

On Tuesday, thousands of Iraqis had encircled and vandalised the embassy compound, outraged by US air raids in Iraq and Syria that killed 25 PMU fighters over the weekend.

Angry crowds marched unimpeded through the checkpoints of the usually high-security Green Zone to the embassy gates, where they hurled rocks towards the compound before breaking through a reception area and spraying pro-Iran graffiti on the walls.

Security personnel inside responded with tear gas, wounding at least 20 people, the PMU said.

On Wednesday, the paramilitary group called on its supporters to leave the embassy and gather outside the Green Zone out of "respect" for the state.

You delivered your message," the PMU said in a statement.

A photographer with the AFP news agency said they saw protesters dismantling their tents and leaving the Green Zone.

Kataib Hezbollah, the PMU faction targeted in the US raids, initially said it would stay at the embassy, but the group's spokesman Mohammad Mohyeddin later backed down, saying the group was abiding by the PMU's order.

"We scored a huge win: We arrived at the US embassy, which no one had done before," he told AFP.

Kataeb Hezbollah, the group targeted in the US raids, told AFP they would “remain” at the embassy.




Iraqi militiamen and their supporters pulled back from the US embassy in Baghdad on Wednesday, a day after they attempted to storm the diplomatic mission. The attacks on the embassy have triggered the biggest US crisis in Iraq for years, caused the Trump administration to deploy more troops to the region and heightened tensions between Washington and Tehran. Thousands of militiamen and their supporters besieged the mission on Tuesday, throwing rocks into the embassy, attacking security infrastructure and setting fires around its perimeter. US security forces fired tear gas at crowds who gathered around the embassy, the largest in the world, for a second day on Wednesday. Iraq’s Popular Mobilisation Units, an umbrella group of paramilitary forces, later issued a statement calling on its supporters to withdraw from the mission’s perimeter, saying their “message had been heard”. Most appeared to heed the call. The protests were sparked by US air strikes on Sunday against Kata’ib Hizbollah, one of the more militant and pro-Iranian militias in the PMU, which killed at least 25 fighters. Washington launched the strikes against five of the militia’s sites after accusing the group of firing a barrage of rockets at an Iraqi base housing US troops, killing an American contractor. President Donald Trump has blamed Iran for the attacks on the US embassy, saying the Islamic republic would be “held fully responsible for lives lost, or damage incurred, at any of our facilities”. “They will pay a very BIG PRICE!” he said on Twitter. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, responded to Mr Trump on Wednesday by saying “you can’t do anything”. “If you were logical — which you’re not — you’d see that your crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan . . . have made nations hate you,” he said on Twitter. “We’re not after wars, but we strongly defend the Iranian nation’s interests, dignity, & glory. If anyone threatens that, we will unhesitatingly confront & strike them.” Iran also summoned the Swiss chargé d’affaires to Tehran to complain about American “warmongering statements”. Switzerland serves as an intermediary between Washington and Tehran because the two nations do not have formal diplomatic relations. The attacks marked the biggest escalation between the US and Iran-allied Iraqi factions in years and underscored the risk of Iraq becoming a theatre for confrontation in the stand-off between Washington and Tehran. Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, postponed a trip to several countries including Ukraine as a result of the embassy attack in Iraq, a state department spokesperson said on Wednesday. He was staying in Washington “to continue monitoring the ongoing situation in Iraq and ensure the safety and security of Americans in the Middle East,” said Morgan Ortagus, who added that the trip would be “rescheduled in the near future”. The Trump administration, which has imposed crippling sanctions on Iran, said Iran-backed Iraqi militias had launched 11 attacks on Iraq bases hosting US and coalition forces in the past two months. Washington has also said an attack on an oil pipeline in Saudi Arabia in May was launched from Iraq, and the same month it withdrew non-essential staff from its diplomatic missions in the country, citing unspecified “escalatory” Iranian activity. The US has about 5,000 troops in Iraq, which have been involved in both the fight against Isis and in training Iraqi forces. Mark Esper, the US defence secretary, said late on Tuesday that Washington would immediately deploy an additional 750 troops to the region in response to the embassy attacks. Washington’s influence in the country has waned in recent years, while Iran’s role has been cemented with the political and military rise of the Shia militias it backs and which dominate the PMU.
 

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Of course it was done by the PMU. And the Iraqi leaders with Shiite majority in the parliament with Iranian backed militias running around had to explain why he was in the country. Not like they can say oh he was planning more attacks.



Iraqi protesters have withdrawn from the perimeter fence of the United States embassy in Baghdad, after the pro-Iran Popular Mobilisation Units (PMU) paramilitary group asked them to leave.

On Tuesday, thousands of Iraqis had encircled and vandalised the embassy compound, outraged by US air raids in Iraq and Syria that killed 25 PMU fighters over the weekend.

Angry crowds marched unimpeded through the checkpoints of the usually high-security Green Zone to the embassy gates, where they hurled rocks towards the compound before breaking through a reception area and spraying pro-Iran graffiti on the walls.

Security personnel inside responded with tear gas, wounding at least 20 people, the PMU said.

On Wednesday, the paramilitary group called on its supporters to leave the embassy and gather outside the Green Zone out of "respect" for the state.

You delivered your message," the PMU said in a statement.

A photographer with the AFP news agency said they saw protesters dismantling their tents and leaving the Green Zone.

Kataib Hezbollah, the PMU faction targeted in the US raids, initially said it would stay at the embassy, but the group's spokesman Mohammad Mohyeddin later backed down, saying the group was abiding by the PMU's order.

"We scored a huge win: We arrived at the US embassy, which no one had done before," he told AFP.

Kataeb Hezbollah, the group targeted in the US raids, told AFP they would “remain” at the embassy.




Iraqi militiamen and their supporters pulled back from the US embassy in Baghdad on Wednesday, a day after they attempted to storm the diplomatic mission. The attacks on the embassy have triggered the biggest US crisis in Iraq for years, caused the Trump administration to deploy more troops to the region and heightened tensions between Washington and Tehran. Thousands of militiamen and their supporters besieged the mission on Tuesday, throwing rocks into the embassy, attacking security infrastructure and setting fires around its perimeter. US security forces fired tear gas at crowds who gathered around the embassy, the largest in the world, for a second day on Wednesday. Iraq’s Popular Mobilisation Units, an umbrella group of paramilitary forces, later issued a statement calling on its supporters to withdraw from the mission’s perimeter, saying their “message had been heard”. Most appeared to heed the call. The protests were sparked by US air strikes on Sunday against Kata’ib Hizbollah, one of the more militant and pro-Iranian militias in the PMU, which killed at least 25 fighters. Washington launched the strikes against five of the militia’s sites after accusing the group of firing a barrage of rockets at an Iraqi base housing US troops, killing an American contractor. President Donald Trump has blamed Iran for the attacks on the US embassy, saying the Islamic republic would be “held fully responsible for lives lost, or damage incurred, at any of our facilities”. “They will pay a very BIG PRICE!” he said on Twitter. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, responded to Mr Trump on Wednesday by saying “you can’t do anything”. “If you were logical — which you’re not — you’d see that your crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan . . . have made nations hate you,” he said on Twitter. “We’re not after wars, but we strongly defend the Iranian nation’s interests, dignity, & glory. If anyone threatens that, we will unhesitatingly confront & strike them.” Iran also summoned the Swiss chargé d’affaires to Tehran to complain about American “warmongering statements”. Switzerland serves as an intermediary between Washington and Tehran because the two nations do not have formal diplomatic relations. The attacks marked the biggest escalation between the US and Iran-allied Iraqi factions in years and underscored the risk of Iraq becoming a theatre for confrontation in the stand-off between Washington and Tehran. Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, postponed a trip to several countries including Ukraine as a result of the embassy attack in Iraq, a state department spokesperson said on Wednesday. He was staying in Washington “to continue monitoring the ongoing situation in Iraq and ensure the safety and security of Americans in the Middle East,” said Morgan Ortagus, who added that the trip would be “rescheduled in the near future”. The Trump administration, which has imposed crippling sanctions on Iran, said Iran-backed Iraqi militias had launched 11 attacks on Iraq bases hosting US and coalition forces in the past two months. Washington has also said an attack on an oil pipeline in Saudi Arabia in May was launched from Iraq, and the same month it withdrew non-essential staff from its diplomatic missions in the country, citing unspecified “escalatory” Iranian activity. The US has about 5,000 troops in Iraq, which have been involved in both the fight against Isis and in training Iraqi forces. Mark Esper, the US defence secretary, said late on Tuesday that Washington would immediately deploy an additional 750 troops to the region in response to the embassy attacks. Washington’s influence in the country has waned in recent years, while Iran’s role has been cemented with the political and military rise of the Shia militias it backs and which dominate the PMU.
well according to usa the attack that night had nothing to do with this incident but was because some artillery rocket attack done from area that PMU never had any presence there
 

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well according to usa the attack that night had nothing to do with this incident but was because some artillery rocket attack done from area that PMU never had any presence there
Really? So the U.S. military just decided to randomly attacked the PMU?
 

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a calculated move to keep the situation in Iraq the same and don't let the country have a lasting peace
Yeah and the PMU's calculated move in not letting Iraq having lasting peace by constantly attacking U.S. bases with mortars and rockets for many months even though the U.S. hasn't attacked them at all since their focus was fighting against ISIS. And the PMU's goal and Iran's goal as well as to remove U.S. forces from Iraq.
 

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Yeah and the PMU's calculated move in not letting Iraq having lasting peace by constantly attacking U.S. bases with mortars and rockets for many months even though the U.S. hasn't attacked them at all since their focus was fighting against ISIS. And the PMU's goal and Iran's goal as well as to remove U.S. forces from Iraq.
didn't attack them ? are you kidding me

and as I said that shady attack USA claimed as the reason for this terror was never proved to be PMU work

by the way
Kata’ib Sayyid al-Shuhada, a member of the PMF, stated that their forces were bombed by US planes on August 7, 2017 in Al Anbar Governorate near the Iraq–Syria border and that Hashd al-Shaabi forces suffered many casualties.
On 22 August 2019, The Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), blamed the United States and Israel for a number of bombings on their warehouses and bases. The group accused the US of permitting Israeli drones to join its forces for executing attacks on Iraqi territory. The group pledged to counter any attack in the future.
On 29 December 2019, the United States bombed a headquarters of Kataib Hezbollah in al-Qa'im. The airstrikes targeted three targets in Iraq and two in Syria of Kataib Hezbollah, and included weapons depots and command posts according to Reuters and a US military statement. The attack was in retaliation for the attack on K-1 two days earlier and other attacks on bases with US forces in Iraq. The earlier attack killed a US contractor and wounded four soldiers. Several members of Kataib Hezbollah were killed and wounded in the airstrikes.
On 3 January 2020, PMU militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, PMU PR head Mohammed Redha al-Jabri, and the Quds Force head, Qasem Soleimani, were among those killed in a targeted U.S. airstrike near the Baghdad airport.

the red one is the shady attack you attributed to PMF and you could never provide any credible evidence it was done by them and as a matter of fact it was done from an AREA that no PMF presence was there for years
 

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