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They could be doing extra maintenance or modernizing, upgrading various parts. We simply don't know.
That is also another possibility.If one was going to fit new weapons systems or other upgrades then it would make sense to do it to all 3 boats at the same facility at the same time.
 

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However, in Hi Sutton article, the proof of the images is missing, that is, the one where you really see the third Kilo class out of the water.
Probably he will have had access to classified or paid images and will certainly publish them when he has had the authorization, but at the moment this is not present and in the free viewing ones the third Kilo is attached to the dock of the military base always in Bandar Abbass.
Perhaps the Iranian military authorities themselves will inform.
In the absence of images of the submarine in the shipyard, its eventual absence from the naval base could also mean that it has gone on a mission.
Therefore we just have to wait
 

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I just remembered an article a few months back regarding an unusual detection method in addition to sonar utilised by Soviet/Russian subs to track American subs that relied on temp differences of the water and the presence of trace amounts of radiation left behind for up to a few hours at certain depths. I was wondering if the 3 kilos Iran has is also equipped with this mechanism.

Here is the article referring to the SOKS:
 

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I just remembered an article a few months back regarding an unusual detection method in addition to sonar utilised by Soviet/Russian subs to track American subs that relied on temp differences of the water and the presence of trace amounts of radiation left behind for up to a few hours at certain depths. I was wondering if the 3 kilos Iran has is also equipped with this mechanism.

Here is the article referring to the SOKS:
Quite possible at least one of the subs are there for some retrofit (hope WudangMaster is right and they are putting some new detection device) ...I know "Taregh" went through FULL overhaul about a decade ago...and they were talking about overhaul of a second one some time ago.

With Israeli subs now lurking around Iran, Iran needs some ASW helicopters fast..I do not think any of Iran's seakings are ASW...you need a big helicopter to fly out into the sea and drop sonobuoys , process the data onboard and triangulate the location of an enemy sub...if the helicopter has onboard torpedos it can proceed with prosecuting the target if hostile...or the data can be given to one of the surface assets.
 
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I just remembered an article a few months back regarding an unusual detection method in addition to sonar utilised by Soviet/Russian subs to track American subs that relied on temp differences of the water and the presence of trace amounts of radiation left behind for up to a few hours at certain depths. I was wondering if the 3 kilos Iran has is also equipped with this mechanism.

Here is the article referring to the SOKS:
Wouldn’t make sense for Iran’s Kilos. They aren’t submarines made for deep water. And US nuclear subs are carrying nuclear payloads thus wouldn’t need to get anywhere close to Iranian waters.

The one you saw swimming thru the PG was a propaganda ploy. It’s actually a submarine literally to big for PG and ment for deep oceans. Again it wouldn’t need to be anywhere close to Iranian waters as it carries LR tomahawks.
 

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The one you saw swimming thru the PG was a propaganda ploy. It’s actually a submarine literally to big for PG and ment for deep oceans. Again it wouldn’t need to be anywhere close to Iranian waters as it carries LR tomahawks.
Indeed, the only size appropriate for Persian Gulf are the Ghadirs and even the smaller uuvs. Like with the B-52s, they would launch ordinances from as far as possible and be lno where in the region.
 

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Indeed, the only size appropriate for Persian Gulf are the Ghadirs and even the smaller uuvs. Like with the B-52s, they would launch ordinances from as far as possible and be lno where in the region.
The only reason that submarine was conventional equipped was a arms reduction treaty that reduced the number of submarine carrying nuclear missiles Russia and US can have.

Or else nearly the entire US submarine fleet is for 2nd strike Deterrence.
 

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That is also another possibility.If one was going to fit new weapons systems or other upgrades then it would make sense to do it to all 3 boats at the same facility at the same time.
Thats not the usual way of doing things.
 

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Iran IRGC Navy Equipped with 340 New attack Speedboats ( IRGCN Naval vessel )


How many speed boats covering coastal water would be enough for them to move on to larger crafts?

Instead of 340 ~20 ton vessels the IRGC should instead be building 50 or more ~120 ton vessel....
 

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