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Iran Army Zulfiqar-99 Joint military Exercise in Indian Ocean and Makran Sea (Oman Sea)
Nasr fired surface-to-surface anti-ship cruise missiles from naval vessel,
Firing Qader anti-ship cruise missiles / destroying a target at a distance of 200 km
participation Fateh submarine
Destruction of ground targets by Army Air Force fighters
Sub-surface anti-ship cruise missiles from Ghadir submarine
Three American planes were intercepted by Karar drone

 

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sorry, but once again I wanted to do some "updates" to Sahand 74 with photoshop,

An excellent piece of work my friend.:enjoy::enjoy::enjoy:
Something like this clearly shows the potential of the hulls of the class,however when it comes to actually equipping the hulls then it seems that everything just literally falls apart and there appears to be virtually little to no organized approach to developing standardized weapons and systems for each of the ships,one gets the feeling that almost everything is just a one off,made individually for each ship in turn.In many ways its just like the sort of lack of program mangement that we see in the airforce,tho nowhere near as bad obviously.
Its very unfortunate,as being able to build these hulls indigenously is a huge achievement which pretty much no one else in the region could`ve pulled off,but to then see it all fall down because of a lack of development and standardization of things like radars,sams,ciws etc,or in the case of the sahand the fact that some of these systems do exist on other ships of the class but for some bizarre reason have not been fitted to irans newest warship.
Part of the problem is clearly the extreme conservatism of the ships designers who despite the potential of the hull seem to have been unwilling to use it to its maximum potential.The other part is the lack of development and standardization of important systems which means that procurement of these systems becomes very difficult.Lastly one also gets the feeling that there is almost a completely random adhoc approach about what ship gets what system ie the sahand.
 

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Yes true, standardization would be ideal, but it is also necessary to consider that they are ships built in very distant times from each other, moreover I have come to a personal conclusion that there is no mass production of the components, but still today many devices they are made as unique pieces at an artisanal level by specialized technicians, therefore with very long delivery times.
So often to complete the frigates the navy has to fall back to using, for example, old radar systems, first built with the Jamaran, today with the Sahand, to then implement the new systems when available.
Experience, experience and more experience needs,
something that Iran did not previously have in the field of building military ships of this size and since it has been subject to sanctions and embargoes for more than 40 years, it has been forced to build almost all the components of the ships at home.
All this certainly entailed choices, choices that were sometimes even questionable, but probably taken having a look at what was available to install.
Therefore, more than one class of ships, more prototype ships have been built, which in any case, even if not perfect, allow the navy to navigate and experience even in the oceans.
It is hoped that in the future there will be a standardization and a single way at the level of ship silhouettes, electronics and weapons systems;
at most if you continue with the hull of these frigates, they could consider building specialized ships in the ASW fight with hangars and ASW helicopters, which in truth could already be done with the Shiraz, even if the authorities say it will be used for other missions.
 

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I believe that it would be a wise idea for the Iranian navy, maybe submarines or navy ships to escort large groups of oil tankers to the southern tip of Africa, where they could rendezvous with Venezuelan forces, who could then escort the tankers the rest of the way. An extra fuel/supply ship(s) from Iran could help refuel and supply both sides at the rendezvous point and then head back with the Iranian navy.

I theorized about a month ago that Iran could use the alternative longer southern African route to keep delivering oil to Venezuela. It's quite interesting to see them actually doing something like this.

I'm guessing that the US can use bribery and threats to capture smaller tankers owned by independent investors but intercepting and taking large Iranian oil tankers will surely lead to a decisive response from Iran.

Didn't Venezuela recently capture US agents outside an oil facility that was built with Iranian help ? In the past there have been acts of sabotage or explosions at such facilities. Now it seems that the Venezuelans are on their guard.

 

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Fateh is an incredible submarine. As IRIN commander said It has basically the capability of a large tactical submarine but in a 600 ton submarine. Few points to note:

Admiral Khanzadi stated that Fateh submarine uses 360 degree sonar systems. Meaning instead of having just one sonar fixed in the front etc, it has multiple sonar systems scattered throughout.

He also talked about the use of smart sea mines. These mines can be controlled and guided from the Fateh from a distance. These mines are programmed to identify enemy ships based their acoustic signature and then detonate. In other words, you can plant these mines and then our own ships can be safe. He said they have a bank where they have gathered and hold these acoustic signatures of enemy vessels.

Range of Valfajr torpedo has been doubled.

Regarding Mohandes longe range Anti cruise cruise missile, he stated this missile is programable and allows it to be fired in a manner to attack the targets from positions they're not expecting, i.e from behind.
 

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This important upgrade had already been highlighted on 29 December 2019

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Oltre al Kamand CIWS e al sistema di ricerca e binario, sono disponibili innovazioni tecnologiche anche per il sistema 35 mm / 90 KDC



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Fateh is an incredible submarine. As IRIN commander said It has basically the capability of a large tactical submarine but in a 600 ton submarine. Few points to note:

Admiral Khanzadi stated that Fateh submarine uses 360 degree sonar systems. Meaning instead of having just one sonar fixed in the front etc, it has multiple sonar systems scattered throughout.

He also talked about the use of smart sea mines. These mines can be controlled and guided from the Fateh from a distance. These mines are programmed to identify enemy ships based their acoustic signature and then detonate. In other words, you can plant these mines and then our own ships can be safe. He said they have a bank where they have gathered and hold these acoustic signatures of enemy vessels.

Range of Valfajr torpedo has been doubled.

Regarding Mohandes longe range Anti cruise cruise missile, he stated this missile is programable and allows it to be fired in a manner to attack the targets from positions they're not expecting, i.e from behind.

In addition to the above, Admiral Khanzadi also mentioned the fact that Fateh can lie on the seabed like a rock (presumably in ambush and within the limits of the maximum depth it can descend to - enough to reach the seafloor of the Persian Gulf), a highly complex and delicate operation unto itself and something that is beyond the reach of a Tareq (Kilo) class SSK.

So not only does the compact Fateh offer capabilities usually associated with larger tactical submarines, it also yields some of the advantages of a midget sub like Iran's own Ghadir class. With the Fateh, you basically get the best of both worlds.

Khanzadi further explained how the Fateh can operate in stealthy ways thanks to its ability to hover, allowing it to stay put within specific water currents and thermal layers that make detection by enemy assets more difficult.

This means the Fateh is a truly impressive achievement and an highly potent weapon against the naval forces of Iran's existential enemies (US regime, etc).

What's certain is that contrary to the assessment of western analysts including H. I. Sutton (perhaps not the single most biased one, yet even that author cannot help but to underestimate Iran's military strength, nor to rehash some of the usual, politically tainted cliches entertained in western mainstream discourse), who had opined that the Fateh is more of an enlargened Ghadir than a compacted Kilo, Admiral Khanzadi's remarks highlight that the Fateh is in fact pretty much a "Kilo light" in terms of capability.

A layman such as myself had guessed as much after seeing some of the sub's sophisticated modern consoles shown in the IRIB TV report that was broadcast around the time Fateh was first brought into service.

Also this comprehensive array of capabilities, which requires the integration of an important amount of relatively costly high-tech components, might explain the apparent development time and subsequent production rate of the Fateh sub in comparison to the Ghadir, invalidating speculation about quality or reliability issues.

It can't be reminded enough that this submarine is a domestic Iranian product all the way back to the initial drawing board design. Which makes the feat even more impressive. Imagine the next generation of Fateh subs, which reportedly might get equipped with AIP-type propulsion systems (as per Admiral Khanzadi in a previous interview).
 
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