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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dariush the Great" data-source="post: 13517747" data-attributes="member: 198323">Like i said, Seyed, not on the level of Khamenei. For sure not a person who can continue IR the way Khamenei did. Pick up a dictionary and search what deterrence means. Just use common sense, something that you are deprived of. It is a no brainer that the 60's and 70's clerics wielded much more power than nowadays. You are confused Seyed and you are repeating the same things over and over again. Which part don't you understand? I will explain it for you. The confusion continues.Israel and the US will not allow Khamenei to get nukes. Hence, reason why he never violates any of these red lines. The evidence is right before your eyes. Yes, and no. Depends on the ''orze'' of the establishment. If they did indeed develop some alternative plans then no. If, what i suspect, they did not, then yes, unfortunately, the bombings will do that.  We go back to my point of you being confused. Because the core of the problem here is you getting confused over and over again over my points. This has all to do with Khameneis indecisiveness, the longer he prolongs, the worse and uncertain the outcome would be. But i don't think he is going after nukes because he issued a fatwa on this (extremely likely, even if his fatwa can not be found directly). You are getting confused here again, Seyed. The US has indeed the power to kill Khamenei, if you tell me no, then i will think you are a little child with 0 knowledge. Is your world that propagandish? We go back to my statement where i said, Khamenei is respecting the red lines put in place by the US. He can not escalate more from a certain point. The escalation has to be proportionate and by the rules. He is a very good boy. Are you serious? You are saying that killing one person is harder than wiping out a whole nuclear infrastructure? (some serious % being fortified, under mountains etc). Stop wasting time with such childish talks. Be serious. Poor argument. You are all betting your arguments and your whole reputation on the fact that the US has not bombed the Iranian mainland yet! Extremely risky bet imo. Continuous display of poor argument. ''Oh look, they bombed libya and iraq, but IR is not bombed yet, so IR must be some super duper entity''... ehm no. The real world does not work like that. Already addressed. Under leadership of Khamenei? Hell no. That is what am telling you from the beginning, but your love for Khamenei is making you blind and deaf from even a little bit rational thinking. So it went from ''no concessions at all'' to ''any incapacitating concessions'' ?right lol. btw the former statement by IR officials. Rahbar has made sure of what? Shipping all the enriched uranium away, pouring beton in arak,allowing camera installations, CIA&Mossad inspection and making deal with untrustworthy US? I am afraid, you are the one being extremely emotional, over your love for one person. I am sorry but i dont see North Korean nr.1 Generals getting killed even before they had no nukes. North Korea has a much higher deterrence than IR. Its a no brainer. Lay off the IR propaganda for a bit.And North Korea has artilerry deterrence over Seoul. Widen your military knowledge please. Then what? They developed nukes. They are not like IR, endlessly begging at the negotiating table. It is getting funnier.You said "  But politically, it is better for Iran to be able to say "see, we tried to negotiate but the US is refusing to uphold its own engagements"Did IR not negotiate for several years and made a deal with the US? What happened after that? You need a second negotiation? What has Ahmadinejad to do with this? Please don't get too radical.  It is not my fault that you have a poor comprehension problem. Perhaps i need to dumb down my statements for you to understand. Because sometimes i leave out details, in the hope of you understanding them yourself, but alas. All your argument hinges on the fact that they not openly declared war and bombed the Iranian mainland. Extremely poor argument and time wasting.Intelligent readers would understand this point.  Seyed, i am tired of having to explain to you. But it's ok. Depending on your ''por roo-ness'' I will stick around a little longer. Salami, is that you? Readers know that you are a radical shia muslim. And they know you have a big love for Khamenei. I am pretty relaxed in my position. You are blinded by ideology. I am not. So you are repeating that eliminating one tiny person is harder than a vast nuclear infrastructure? LOL Same as above. You are making a joke of yourself. Honestly, i don't even know why i am wasting my time on this. It takes even less than 1KG of TNT to eliminate Khamenei (if planned properly). However with thousands of tons of bombs it is still not sufficient to take out the entire nuclear program.Shall i talk more in baby language with you, Seyed? Haha. To think that one person is harder to eliminate than a vast nuclear program. You are nuts <img src="/pdf/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rofl.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="Rofl    :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" />I am not even joking now. You make me shocked. You wrote handful out of spite, Seyed. In reality you wanted to say that he is the only genuine and daring one. We both know this, and all readers know this. already addressed before. all your arguments depend on one fact : Iran's mainland  not attacked yet. it is not a safe position to be in though. I suggest you to revise your argument.Honestly, i knew from the beginning it would be a total waste of time to start a discussion with you on Khamenei,IR and so on but it's okay, let's have some fun while we are at it. Btw, no hard feelings discussing these issues. Might get heated sometimes. I am a big fan of your posts against those anti Iran trolls here <img src="/pdf/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mrgreen.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Mrgreen    :D" data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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