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Iranian Foreign Minister: Tehran welcomes the return of relations with Saudi Arabia, and the strengthening and expansion of relations with Egypt

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Sunday, July 3, 2022

Today, Sunday, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian announced that Tehran welcomes the return of relations with Saudi Arabia and the strengthening and expansion of relations with Egypt.

Abdullahian said: "In response to the message conveyed by the Iraqi Prime Minister, Mustafa Al-Kazemi to Iran from the Saudi side, we say that Iran welcomes the return of relations with Saudi Arabia, and we welcome the reopening of embassies and the start of political dialogues."

Abdullahian stressed: "Egypt is an important country in the Islamic world and the development of relations between Tehran and Cairo is in the interest of the countries of the region and the peoples of the two countries."

He added, "There are no direct negotiations with the Egyptian side to resume relations at the present time, but efforts are underway to restore the waters of relations between Tehran and Cairo to their normal course within the framework of cooperation between two Islamic countries."

He continued: "There is an office for the care of interests in each of the two countries, which shows the fact that Egypt is an important country in the Islamic world, and we consider developing relations with it to serve the interests of the peoples of the two countries, the Islamic world and the countries of the region."


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WOW, that is really good news!

The reconciliation between Saudi Arabia and Iran will be the blessing of the world to human civilization.
 

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Talks going on for months.

Nothing changes.
Few things are happening..Bagheri went to OMAN last week ,,,I wondered why..this is the reason"..I remember when Ahmadinejad went to Egypt he was told.."Road to Egypt passes through Riyadh"

Iran, Egypt agree to develop ties: report​

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July 6, 2022 - 21:24


TEHRAN – Iran and Egypt have held a high-level meeting in recent days and have agreed to boost their relations, according to a Qatari-owned newspaper.
Citing Egyptian diplomatic sources, Al Araby Al Jadeed said new developments have taken place in the relations between Tehran and Cairo ahead of a mid-July visit by U.S. President Joe Biden to the region. “A high-level meeting, which took place during the recent visit of Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi to the Sultanate of Oman early last week, brought together Egyptian and Iranian officials,” the sources told Al Araby Al Jadeed. They added that the meeting was attended by a high-ranking figure from the delegation accompanying the Egyptian president with Omani coordination.
The sources indicated that the meeting “was of a security nature in general, and touched upon the situation in the Gaza Strip and Syria,” adding that “there were many points of agreement between the two parties, and that the coming period may witness direct coordination between Cairo and Tehran on issues and matters related to the Strip.”
According to the sources, “during the meeting, an agreement was reached on joint coordination in international forums, as long as that was possible, in light of the desire of Cairo and Tehran to reach a good level of relations, provided that they would gradually improve, according to the developments of events in the region
 

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Great news.

I dont get what will we get out of this
Some sort of cold peace?

I think that this is the general idea. Remember that it was Saudi Arabia that broke relations with Iran back in 2016 after that consulate storming in Mashhad after Saudi Arabia executed that Shia cleric/terrorist/whatever he was. Not the other way around.

Arabs don't need this peace. After all they have the nummerical, economic, military, geographical, resource etc. superiority. There is actually no contest on any key strategic fronts.

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I think what all this is about is Iranian involvement in native/local Arab conflicts with Iran using such conflicts to cause further rifts. The best example of this is Yemen which will forever be in the Saudi Arabia/Arab orbit on all fronts. However once the Iranian clerical regime is gone, Iran will have zero leverage over the few Shia Arab groups that they have leverage over currently. Even in the only majority Shia Arab country (Iraq), Iranian influence is not religious but mostly solely related to militia proxies on the ground.

Anyway, honestly speaking, with millennia people to people relations between Eastern Arabia and Southern Iran, I never really understood this conflict. The largest Iranian diaspora in the region is based in Eastern Arabia (UAE). Millions of Arabs with ancestral ties to Arabia are based in Iran too. Intermarriages have been common as well.

I think that this is more an "regime/internet rivalry" than a peoples to peoples rivalry.

After all whether Arabs or Iranians like it, they share far more in common than the opposite on almost every front. Economic, people to people, political etc. integration is preferable rather than a Cold War or a hot proxy conflict.
 

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There do seem to be a pause in AnsarAllah's attacks on Saudis. These fake kings need to realize that no matter how many deals they cut with Israel or America. At the end of the day they will have to talk to Iran. That boy prince had to eat his words after all. I remember him saying in an interview that how do you talk to a people believing in Mahdi(AS). I guess the answer was through a Mahdi(AS) believing Iraqi PM, lol.

Houthis have absolutely nothing to do with Iran other than some military support from Iran (marginal at that too) and some irrelevant political support. The few relevant attacks on KSA (that can be counted on 1 hand) have not changed anything on the ground. Even the much talked about oil processing facility attack was fixed within days and had no other impact than higher oil prices - meaning a higher revenue for KSA. That area of KSA was not defended by AD systems due to the distance to Yemen, now that has changed and we have seen zero attacks since that single attack for a reason.

Houthis are native Northern Yemeni Zaydi Shia Arabs with the closest ties of any outsiders to Southern Saudi Arabians. it is a native Yemeni civil war. KSA-predecessors of Houthis (Zaydi monarchist loyalists) were once allies during the first major Yemeni civil war. There are close tribal/clan/people to people ties. Yemen will continue to be in the Saudi Arabian sphere as simple geography and history dictates that. Houthis share nothing with Iran compared to what they share with KSA.

As for "fake" kings, how is a 300 year old native Arab dynasty more "fake" than some fake Sayyid (wannabe Arab) and Islamic Republic made in 1979?

Last time I checked it was KSA that broke relations with Iran, not the other way around and it is Iran and not KSA that is politically isolated (sanctioned) and struggling economically.

Anyway right now Iranian Hajis are visiting Makkah and Madinah and leaving a lot of money in the coffins of the "fake" kings of KSA. Must be hard to stomach for the self-proclaimed "Supreme Leader" and "Demi-God" of Wilayat al-Faqih Shia followers".:azn:
 
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Even though you are disrespecting senior Shia scholars, let me reply in good faith.

I called them fake because they came into power with the help of British in the aftermath of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and remain in power because American troops in the region maintain order.

They also routinely execute political dissidents like the brave man of God Shaheed Ayatollah Nimr Al-Nimr(May Allah elevate his ranks). These criminal acts imply that they have no real respect and authority among the people. They maintain their criminal rule over the people with oppression, tyranny and brutality. For which they are widely condemned around the world.

Secondly my reason for mentioning AnsarAllah in this particular context was the fact that they use Iranian long range weapons to hit targets deep inside Saudi Arabia. It had nothing to do with the history of these good people who humiliated the criminal bastards who attacked and bombed their country.

May Allah accept the Hajj of Iranians and the pilgrims from around the world and liberate the Holy cities from the criminal band of thugs that calls itself the Saud family. Whose worth in the eyes of its masters is summarized by the words of Lindsay Graham who said that they'd be speaking Farsi in a few days without American protection.

Sorry that I can't take self-proclaimed Demi-God's and self-appointed "Supreme Leaders" seriously. The name itself is a joke. Wilayat al-Faqih is a new invention as well and has nothing to do with the earliest Shia Islam that was followed in Arabia when it emerged as a solely political movement during an imperial Arab civil war almost 1400 years ago in Arabia. Let alone mainstream Shia Islam.

First of all learn basic history before commenting on historical events, with all due respect.

The House of Saud ruled large areas of what is today KSA and in fact much of the entirety of the Arabian Peninsula almost 300 years ago. They were ruling when the Ottomans were merely a footnote in Arabia and limited to a few tiny military garrisons in Arabia and a few local rulers aligned with them on paper. Read about the Sharifs of Makkah for instance.

The House of Saud united what is modern-day KSA through popular support. No foreigners were involved.


There are no American troops in KSA and the only American troops in the "region" (whatever that region is, specify the meaning of region) are US troops in small GCC states in GCC-owned and GCC controlled military bases which the local rulers have given their permission for can be used by an allied (for now) country (ies) such as the US. The US do not maintain any "order" because those rulers predate US involvement in the region and enjoy popular support. I think that we already discusses this evident fact in a prior discussion.

Your whole "worldview" is shaped by the Iranian "Wilayat al-Faqih" worldview and the Iranian Mullah's whose worldview is that anyone not submitting to their religious and political philosophy is at fault. Nobody not subscribing to this sect is buying that, I am sorry. The world is not as simple. Nobody takes criticism of US imperialism seriously when it comes from Iranian Mullah's while they themselves are masters of interfering in outside countries at conflict etc., engaging in proxy conflicts etc.

Nimr al-Nimr was an irrelevant terrorist whose gangs were mundering civilians in Al-Qatif. The likes of his in Iran are executed or arrested as well so kindly stop this hypocrisy.

Condemend by who? The same West that has been (supposedly) sanctioning and condemning the same Iranian Mullah's that you are blindly following as semi-Gods? Can you be a bigger hypocrite even if you wanted to?

Most of those ballistic missiles are Yemeni army stockpiles of USSR or Yemeni-made missiles. Iranian assistance is limited to a few drones and little ballistic missile tech transfer which as I wrote have not altered the war or stopped KSA in any shape or form.

Keep dreaming, there is a bigger chance of the Iranian people removing those wannabe Arab black turbans ruling Iran than the House of Saud being removed.

From who are you going to liberate Makkah and Madinah or Hejaz anyway? Those are millennia old Arabian cities inhabited by local Arabian people in a historically Arabian region (Hejaz). The same House of Saud are Arabians as well and natives of Arabia. You are hallucinating and high on Iranian Mullah propaganda. A sad sight to behold.
 

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Yeah the British had nothing to do with the defeat of Ottomans and the American troops in the middle east are for sight seeing only. Iran also doesn't provide any long range drones to AnsarAllah. The pinpoint strikes on oil refineries were fake. Saudis never executed no political dissident. Khashoggi was a terrorist not a journalist. MBS is a saint. And Shias need to learn their religion from you.

The Ottomans were not some holy cows. They were a declining entity for centuries prior to the Arab Revolt (where the House of Saud were not even involved, go read some elementary history of the region that you are discussing before posting outright lies, no disrespect again) and only had very little nominal control of Arabia (sometimes no control) which was otherwise ruled by local dynasties. At that time there were the Young Turks movement and rebellions elsewhere. In any case none of this has anything to do with what I wrote or the unification of KSA or the House of Saud. Once again, read about the regions history first.

I specifically wrote mainly drones. 99.99% of them being useless in the sense of doing no damage inside KSA and being shot down by KSA. Outside of that attack 3 years ago on unprotected oil production facilities that were repaired within days, nothing remotely noteworthy in terms of drone attacks can be mentioned. As far as ballistic missiles, 99% of them are being shot down or hitting empty space. Vast majority of them belonged to the Yemeni army stockpiles and originate from the USSR era. It is common knowledge that can be easily googled. As for partial missile tech transfer, as I wrote, there have likely been some, but nothing groundbreaking or sophisticated. If that was the case, we would have seen far more succesfull attacks on KSA but we see none other than the drone attack 3 years ago on largely unprotected oil facilities over 1000 km away from the border of Yemen (I doubt that we will see a repeat for obvious reasons, as I wrote) or some border skirmishes along the mostly mountainous border.

Sure, just like Iran never executing any political dissidents.


Iran is in a completely different league compared to KSA. Can't even compare it. Iran is executing athletes, political prisoners etc. on a far greater scale than anything KSA has ever done. Iran's execution rate per capita is also much bigger than that of KSA. We are comparing apples and oranges here.

Khashoggi was killed yes, likely by the order of MBS but so what, you blindly support a Supreme Leader (LOL at that name) who has killed 100's of Iranian dissidents home and abroad.


Executing wrestlers even;


Claims of him murdering a policemen during protests yet KSA similarly accuses Nimr al-Nimr and his few followers of killing civilians and security personel in Al-Qatif.


It is a fact that Iranian Wilayat al-Faqih is a new cult-like creation and only a minority of Shias worldwide follow or agree with this notion. Al-Sistani is firmly against it. So are the actual local Shia Arab clerics in Karbala and Najaf (the actual spiritual Shia centers of the world, not Iran).

Anyway I don't care about the House of Saud, they are not religious figures, but they are competent leaders and most locals support them which is evident when looking at the ground realities. You on the other hand blindly follow some leaders of a foreign nation just due to religious reasons alone. Therein lies the difference.
 
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