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TheImmortal

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Hamas doesn't seem to be launching nearly as many missiles this time. Not nearly as much damage being witnessed in Israel, but still some.

Hamas isn’t involved in this conflict. It’s PIJ a separate group.

They are much smaller (1-3K members) and have a fraction of the rockets of Hamas. Mostly rudimentary ones that are easy for IRON Dome to intercept. While they are supported by Iran, it is hard to smuggle in quality weapons into Gaza when Israel has full inspection rights of every shipment.
 

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Some comments from non-Iranians regarding the appalling ice cream advert:

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Both users reside in the west so they tend to know what they're talking about (unlike Iranians who've never spent time here yet idealize almost everything about the west). None is a hardcore Islamist to my knowledge let alone a follower of "Taleban" ideology. The second user cited has often condemned in staunch terms the positions of so-called fundamentalists on societal and cultural topics, this I know for a fact.

And they are both absolutely correct. Iranians captive to the unrelenting desire to resemble the west, to possess everything westerners possess, to live like westerners, who feel they are nothing unless and until Iran aligns on global norms, ought to carefully ponder these simple words quoted above: an advert like this would get banned for general audiences in the USA due to its sleazy, suggestive pornographic nature. It does not conform to minimal requirements even under the debased norms prevailing in the west, this is how depraved it is.

Frankly if the Islamic Republic backs off because of factually unfounded cries from the liberal and westernized crowd that "we will become the laughing stock of the world" for banning junk like this, then Iran - not just Islam, is in deep trouble. If the Magnum company is not sanctioned, authorities will have failed their people in this important matter.

To our respected decision makers: please, do not be intimidated by Manoto-watchers and the rest of the oppositionist crowd, it's the future of our children, of our families, of our religion and of our nation which are at stake. Religious folk aren't the only ones to reject these sorts of aberrations, many among the secularized citizens are clear sighted and conscious enough to subscribe to any appropriate measures designed to stop in its tracks this slow, creeping but dangerous tendency towards sexualization of mass media productions intended for Iranian audiences, some of which like these adverts can readily be found on Iranian-based "social media".
This may be a good time to preface all non Iranian sources as ‘CAUTION: SOURCE IS NOT IRANIAN’ or for those sources whose origin is unclear: ‘CAUTION: SOURCE IS NOT CONFIRMED TO BE IRANIAN’.
 

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3 day passed from unprovoked Israel attack on Islamic Jihad in gaza
its 8 year i scream Hamas is backstabber and not worthy of any support , the people who supported Hamas and said i was wrong and knew nothing. can you explain to me where is Hamas ? why it's not supporting axis of resistance ? now tell me who don't knew this Ikhvan offshoots , now tell me who don't understand their ideology .
you guys who were supporting arming them can you explain to me if they don't go to the aid of fellow Palestinian in Gaza how you expect them go to the aid of Resistance axis if the time come.
can you explaine to me how they are anything but Trojan horse amidst of resistance axis?

its what i scream in last 8 year after Al-Qusayr and more than 100 martyr resistance gave there after Hamas backstabbing them there , but there are people here that don't want learn from past mistakes
 

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3 day passed from unprovoked Israel attack on Islamic Jihad in gaza
its 8 year i scream Hamas is backstabber and not worthy of any support , the people who supported Hamas and said i was wrong and knew nothing. can you explain to me where is Hamas ? why it's not supporting axis of resistance ? now tell me who don't knew this Ikhvan offshoots , now tell me who don't understand their ideology .
you guys who were supporting arming them can you explain to me if they don't go to the aid of fellow Palestinian in Gaza how you expect them go to the aid of Resistance axis if the time come.
can you explaine to me how they are anything but Trojan horse amidst of resistance axis?


its what i scream in last 8 year after Al-Qusayr and more than 100 martyr resistance gave there after Hamas backstabbing them there , but there are people here that don't want learn from past mistakes
Several PIJ commanders were assasinated by Israel in the last few days. Yes as easy as that and the latest round was a huge PR victory for Israel.
How many times did Israel attack Palestinians since 2006?
Where was Hezbollah, IR etc? Why they never come to assist, their inaction just makes the Israelis more bold.

So instead of saying Hamas is a backstabber why don't you talk about the real backstabbers?

Before you talk about supplying weapons etc, what kind of fked up weapon is that it never can hit any of their targets? If support for Palestinians means supplying them low tech kitchen made fireworks then it is better to stop doing that and save more lives.
 

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Where was Hezbollah, IR etc? Why they never come to assist, their inaction just makes the Israelis more bold.
wery easy to answer they were busy to strengthen the wrong guys AKA Hamas there
Before you talk about supplying weapons etc, what kind of fked up weapon is that it never can hit any of their targets?
they can hit their target if used correctly , so if they don't hit target, think a little maybe the problem is with operators

low tech kitchen made fireworks then it is better to stop doing that and save more lives.
those low tech kitchen make firework include Fajr-5 and Fajr-3 but sadly only holy Hamas got them not other groups
 

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can you explain to me where is Hamas ?

Well, me think that the replanish of iron dom by israel can be done faster then the replanish of the rockets in Gaza. For me that is the reason why Israel attacks Gaza nearly every year: To lower the quantity of Gaza rockets.

Why do they do that? Well, if there are a Gaza with fully max stocks of rockets AND a Hizb in Lebanon with fully max stocks of rockets, then there is a possibillity that Israel can be whiped out cause of 1.) Gaza fires all rockets and so lower the quantity of iron dom rockets so 2.) that then there are no more enough iron dom rockets to stop the Hizb rockets that are fired shortly after the Gaza rockets. In this constellation Israel has no chance to defend properly. And that is why they provoke Gaza nearly every year to make Gaza fire its rockets in a "controlled" szenario to avoid a szenario where Gaza and Hizb work together in attacking Israel.
 

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Before you talk about supplying weapons etc, what kind of fked up weapon is that it never can hit any of their targets? If support for Palestinians means supplying them low tech kitchen made fireworks then it is better to stop doing that and save more lives.

This is Gaza
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Explain to me how you are going to smuggle anything worth while into that tiny parcel
Of land when Israel and Egypt hold a massive blockade and check aid shipments?

It would be like Israel trying to smuggle missiles into Kish Island, Iran.

After Egypt destroyed the smuggling tunnels on the border and deployed troops, it has gotten magnitude levels harder smuggling things in.

It’s quite amazing anything gets thru even raw materials to build these rudimentary rockets.
 

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جنگ غزه تمام نشده و هر لحظه میتونه شروع شه

و یادتون باشه پول حماس و غزه زو قطر میده و ایران فقط سلاح میده
پس قدرت نفوذش نامحدود نیست

 

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This is Gaza
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Explain to me how you are going to smuggle anything worth while into that tiny parcel
Of land when Israel and Egypt hold a massive blockade and check aid shipments?

It would be like Israel trying to smuggle missiles into Kish Island, Iran.

After Egypt destroyed the smuggling tunnels on the border and deployed troops, it has gotten magnitude levels harder smuggling things in.

It’s quite amazing anything gets thru even raw materials to build these rudimentary rockets.
You did not get it.

I am asking behind the reasoning for pushing/motivate the Palestinians in firing low tech crap at the Israelis while they fully know what the answer is going to be? Did you even follow the stats? I did, and it is not even funny.

Out of all those tiny firework rockets they fired over 95% got intercepted, several fell and exploded on open fields and several hit some civilian buildings. Even the damage on those civilian buildings is not even worth mentioning. I am not even sure if even 1 Israeli civilian got killed, let alone a military member. Perhaps some injured and most likely they got injured falling down while they were running to the shelter.


Now lets switch to the Palestinian side.
12 PIJ and 2 Hamas members got murdered by Israel. Furthermore Hamas itself claims the total death toll is around 44 people. Yes, 44 innocent lives wasted because some morons think by launching a few fireworks against the best armed/funded military state in the region is going to cause any strategic shift.

The only organization that can cause any harm to Israel is Hezbollah and they are, like their IR brothers, been on the receiving end since 2006, stiff with fear.

This whole story is sad because the only ones who are willing to even fight with sticks and stones against the Israelis are the Palestinians, and they lack arms.

Now look at nare khar Hezbollah with all those shiney drones and missiles. What is the use of them if you are going to sit idle for decades and doing nothing?

Back to producing useless drone footages/ propaganda videos i guess.
 

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You did not get it.

I am asking behind the reasoning for pushing/motivate the Palestinians in firing low tech crap at the Israelis while they fully know what the answer is going to be? Did you even follow the stats? I did, and it is not even funny.

Raises costs to enemy. Operating iron dome isn’t free. Operating military personnel isn’t free. Fighter jets cost tens of thousands a dollar an hour to operate. Population centers go into shelters. Business stop. There is an economic cost even if there isn’t much of a physical damage cost.

Now lets switch to the Palestinian side.
12 PIJ and 2 Hamas members got murdered by Israel. Furthermore Hamas itself claims the total death toll is around 44 people. Yes, 44 innocent lives wasted because some morons think by launching a few fireworks against the best armed/funded military state in the region is going to cause any strategic shift.

Irrelevant civilians were dying in droves when Palestinians only had rocks and slingshots 20 years ago. So your point has no bearing.

Israel took action first. You want PIJ to just lie down? As if Israel cares about civilians.

Now look at nare khar Hezbollah with all those shiney drones and missiles. What is the use of them if you are going to sit idle for decades and doing nothing?

Emotional response. Lebanon is going thru one of the worst economic crises in human history since the 1800’s. Resources are scarce. People are suffering and angry looking to blame a group for all their problems. Some are blaming HZ for the Beriut blast. Western countries are dangling aid with preconditions that limit HZ influence. HZ just lost seats in parliament.

And amist all this you want HZ to go to war? when Israel has gone on record saying they will level Beruit in response? Israel doesn’t care about war crimes. Israel knows if it kills enough of the civilian population they will turn against HZ. This even happened shortly after in 2006 when large parts of south Lebanon experienced damage. HZ quickly made people whole in order to limit any black lash.

Ordinary civilians don’t care about great power games or geopolitics they care about their day to day lives and their economic convictions. That’s what some of you fail to understand. The average human is dumb and selfish and can’t look two steps ahead in his own life let alone in his country’s future.

So HZ cannot afford a war right now because unlike in 2006, it doesn’t have the support to start such a engagement (even tho in 2006 wasn’t supposed to be a war it was miscalculations on both sides)
 

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