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Iran does produce semiconductors, not even close to world class quality, like anything Taiwan produces, but most household appliances, average electronics, even ballistic missiles do not require the best of the best. In any case you can always stack semi conductors if the power produced from one is not sufficient for your needs.

Right now the way things are going, it doesn't appear as if Sino-American relations are heading in a positive direction anytime soon. The Chinese are actually dumping their American assets ASAP. No Chinese bailout this time if there's a recession.
not an acceptable excuse. semi conductor are the base of all new technologies , have you forget how much we had problem to produce car ECU's even their radio and recorders several years ego ? without the ability to produce industrial level semiconductors you are not truly independent.
we started to produce simple semiconductors (like transistors and ICs )at Sa-Iran at the time of khatami but later the next governments in their infinite wisdom decided its cheaper to import it frtom russia and that action nearly destroyed Sa'Iran . but intrestingly in an industry like car industry which by no mean is as important they decided to fully support the corrupt car manufacturers on drinking people blood and never applied that reason , guess why
 

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Iran does produce some semi conductors, again, not nearly anything close to Taiwan quality but remember in the 80's when Iran began producing missiles, air defense systems and drones ? Some people thought Iran would never be able to achieve anything. Even the Russians are investing billions into the industry now. It will take time but everything starts somewhere.



Iran does produce semiconductors, not even close to world class quality, like anything Taiwan produces, but most household appliances, average electronics, even ballistic missiles do not require the best of the best. In any case you can always stack semi conductors if the power produced from one is not sufficient for your needs.

Right now the way things are going, it doesn't appear as if Sino-American relations are heading in a positive direction anytime soon. The Chinese are actually dumping their American assets ASAP. No Chinese bailout this time if there's a recession.

not an acceptable excuse. semi conductor are the base of all new technologies , have you forget how much we had problem to produce car ECU's even their radio and recorders several years ego ? without the ability to produce industrial level semiconductors you are not truly independent.
we started to produce simple semiconductors (like transistors and ICs )at Sa-Iran at the time of khatami but later the next governments in their infinite wisdom decided its cheaper to import it frtom russia and that action nearly destroyed Sa'Iran . but intrestingly in an industry like car industry which by no mean is as important they decided to fully support the corrupt car manufacturers on drinking people blood and never applied that reason , guess why
 

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@QWECXZ @Hack-Hook @SalarHaqq ..guys you are in Iran..is this news about banning women from ads true..the ice cream ad..it is all over news out side Iran..

Don't know about the supposed ban. All I will say, however, is this: the advert is not conforming to our Iranian culture and traditions, given that they stress modesty, decency, hayā, nāmus. Pay attention to how I state Iranian culture, not just Islamic principles (these of course too). We could add Zoroastrian values to the list, it would hold every bit as true.

For this production very clearly consists in suggestive pornography, no more and no less. From starts to finish, it metaphorically depicts a sexual act as well as foregoing flirtations, by replacing a male sexual organ with an ice cream bar. The female's winking to the suggested sidecar passenger (incarnated by the ice cream cooler), her look down (as if onto the sexual organ of the man) and then up (since there's nothing on the seat at that elevation, what else is the target of her glance supposed to be other than the imaginary man's face?), the fact that she stops the car in a deserted place, her extreme libidinous looks, the very meaningful body language and gestures, and of course the way in which she consumes the product - no normal person under regular circumstances will eat an ice-cream this way, and you and I both know which sexual practice it is supposed to simulate.

Another thing to be aware of about this shameful piece, it's part of a series of adverts manufactured by foreign companies for distribution on "social media" exclusively. Since they would never receive authorization for screening on national television, and since many of these are deliberately trespassing the limits of decency as well as violating Iranian laws, especially due to their sexualized nature, this is the apparent loophole their authors are attempting to exploit. It also shows us how foreign capitalist corporations are involved knee deep in the organized cultural subversion of Iranian society, in the effort to uproot and destroy Iranian families, to corrupt Iranian youth etc, orchestrated by the zio-American empire and its traitorous local collaborators. The clip in question is not that new and was met with protests from great numbers of Iranian citizens right upon its release.

So I think we should be in agreement about the implicit but highly obvious sexual nature of this advert. Now like it or not, our culture strictly confines sexuality to the private sphere; we don't talk sex in public, we don't accomplish sexually laden acts in front of strangers and nā-mahram folk including relatives. It has been so before the arrival of Islam as well. We don't want this rampant and crushing sexualization of the social sphere characteristic of freemason- and zionist-controled western regimes, which is a direct threat to the mental well being of our children as well, to be introduced in Islamic Iran. I don't want my children or grandchildren to be bombarded with pornography and sexually oriented material every time they turn on the TV, every time they go out, every time they listen to a piece of music etc. Do you?

This doesn't make us "Taleban". They weren't doing this in the west either - prior to the so-called "sexual revolution" of the 1950's, which in fact was the result of a carefully planned and executed social engineering effort by the powers-to-be, amplified by the impact of the so-called student protests of 1968 along with so-called "cultural Marxism" and Freudo-Marxism, both of which represent a complete perversion of Karl Marx's revolutionary outlook by the way. Now, would you label the westerners of 60-70 years ago as "Taleban" because they wouldn't allow suggestive pornography in adverts? I doubt it.

It also has nothing to do with being religious or irreligious. Contrary to what some seem to believe, owing to an insufficiently informed, binary view of things, fervently religious people are by far not the only ones to oppose this degenerate social-cultural order imposed onto nations by western-based globalist oligarchs, by the international financial mafia, by masonic lodges and zionists. Those assuming otherwise should research present time conservative currents in the same west they tend to admire, and they'd realize there are all sorts of individuals in those movements including outright atheists.

Heck, even the intelligent left, the one which understands Marx correctly is largely on the same page as us in this regard. Because it can see how the capital, how Wall Street since 1945 is no longer on the side of social and cultural conservatism but on the contrary, is methodically promoting savage societal liberalism and deconstruction of traditional values. Hence why the conservative family father of old, with at least an outward attachment to religion has definitively given way to the figure of the pro-LGBT boho bourgeois in the new millennium.

A Marxian thinker who beautifully theorized this is the French philosopher and sociologist Michel Clouscard, who was noted for a powerful critique of what he termed libertarian liberalism (as opposed to the socially conservative liberalism read capitalism of the 19th and early 20th centuries). Clouscard to me is simply one of the brightest thinkers of the past century.

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A key concept he introduced was that of capitalism of seduction, explaining how post-WW2 capitalists started favoring a model based on cultural permissiveness. In the sense that the act of consumption itself became similar to the satisfaction of a sexual desire, that the new consumer goods released by capitalists were marketed as "cool" and "sexy", appealing to the rebellious youth (like denim trousers etc), that advertising strategies increasingly delved into eroticism, nowadays even explicit or suggestive pornography.

To my knowledge Clouscard's publications, quite astonishingly, haven't been translated into English (I wonder why... not), but those who wish to widen their intellectual horizon really, and I mean really ought to read the following paper discussing the work of this brilliant author:


In truth, what we're witnessing today is an existential battle between those who believe in either a traditionally rooted religion or who believe in natural law (the latter can be agnostics, atheists etc) on the one hand, and those who don't and will automatically embrace whatever the west's ruling elites, capitalists and their local fifth columns will introduce in terms of cultural standards on the other hand.

Back to Iran, I'm still to read up on what decision was taken and by which institution since in most cases like these, narratives peddled by the western-dominated mainstream media happen to be non-factual and fallacious. In my view there needs to be a law that prohibits sexual references and simulated sexual acts in media productions in Iran; this would seem more efficient than banning females from appearing in audiovisual advertising. Again this seems extremely urgent to me, since liberals in the Iranian film industry have sneakily started injecting inappropriate sexual innuendo into productions such as TV series watched by a large amount of viewers including children (in one comedy series, an implied joke about the length of male genitals could even be witnessed a few years ago).

So if Iranian authorities truly take the necessary steps to put an end to this dangerous trend, I will salute it a million times. If they take the required measures, ya haqq. I see two issues: one, authorities have tended to become a little soft in these matters. And second, too many laws and regulations in Iran are hardly being enforced in practice. Let's hope something will be done in this regard, and soon. Prayers offered and fingers crossed!
 
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Iran does produce some semi conductors, again, not nearly anything close to Taiwan quality but remember in the 80's when Iran began producing missiles, air defense systems and drones ? Some people thought Iran would never be able to achieve anything. Even the Russians are investing billions into the industry now. It will take time but everything starts somewhere.


it take us 30 year to master missile building and we didn't master it entirely . Sa'Iran wanted to produce semi conductor production more than 20 years ago and they started a pilot production line , it was shut down by corrupt official just like how corrupt official destroyed Canada ability to build its own aircraft . if they didn't do that today our semiconductor industry at least had the ability in level of Mikron Group and Russia. but what , they now understand their mistake or maybe even not
that facility belong to armed force , civilian sector still prefer to buy it from foreign sources .

by the way are you awatre 17 years ago we designed a processor and processing core more advanced than what russia managed to do 9 years ago. the only problem our company was not supported and russian comapany was supported by government , as the reason our company bankrupted and Russian built 3 more cpu since. you think how long it take us to catch up with them after that act of treason
 
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ISW quoting Ukrainian officials says that Russia has begun using Iranian drones including older gen S-129 drones. According to report 46 drones of various kinds have been handed over to Russians.
Why the S-129 though ? It in a contested airspace wouldn't more cost effective and expendable drones like the Ababil-2 (Qasef-2k) or Ababil 5 or Mojaher 6 make more sense ? I'm confused

ISW = neoconservative outlet. Its reporting on the war in Ukraine has been comical. Since the beginning of the conflict, it has been fantasizing about catastrophic Russian "setbacks" and powerful Ukrainian "counter-offensives".

Also the Ukrainian official who made the statement is none other than Arestovych, who is hardly taken seriously other than by those who buy into the Kiev regime's propaganda.
 
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Nothing from sartip Heydari about the conflict in the southern Caucasus during the past 16 days.

See: https://ana.press/fa/search/5/-1/-1/20/امیر سرتیپ کیومرث حیدری

So it's fake news, or an old statement misleadingly portrayed as recent. Unbelievable how full of bogus reports these so-called social media are. My suggestion is, we should all try and verify anything we find there before sharing (personally I never use them).
 

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@QWECXZ @Hack-Hook @SalarHaqq ..guys you are in Iran..is this news about banning women from ads true..the ice cream ad..it is all over news out side Iran..

آبرو برای کشور نذاشتند دیگه
کشور افتاده دست یه مشت حیوون خر مذهبی که از عصر جهالت اومدن

بعد می‌گن مردم چرا به امثال روحانی رای می‌دن
تا این مملکت از نکبت و آفت خر مذهبی‌ها رها نشه آش همینه و کاسه همین​

Don't know about the supposed ban. All I will say, however, is this: the advert is not conforming to our Iranian culture and traditions, given that they stress modesty, decency, hayā, nāmus. Pay attention to how I state Iranian culture, not just Islamic principles (these of course too). We could add Zoroastrian values to the list, it would hold every bit as true.

For this production very clearly consists in suggestive pornography, no more and no less. From starts to finish, it metaphorically depicts a sexual act as well as foregoing flirtations, by replacing a male sexual organ with an ice cream bar. The female's winking to the suggested sidecar passenger (incarnated by the ice cream cooler), her look down (as if onto the sexual organ of the man) and then up (since there's nothing on the seat at that elevation, what else is the target of her glance supposed to be other than the imaginary man's face?), the fact that she stops the car in a deserted place, her extreme libidinous looks, the very meaningful body language and gestures, and of course the way in which she consumes the product - no normal person under regular circumstances will eat an ice-cream this way, and you and I both know which sexual practice it is supposed to simulate.

Another thing to be aware of about this shameful piece, it's part of a series of adverts manufactured by foreign companies for distribution on "social media" exclusively. Since they would never receive authorization for screening on national television, and since many of these are deliberately trespassing the limits of decency as well as violating Iranian laws, especially due to their sexualized nature, this is the apparent loophole their authors are attempting to exploit. It also shows us how foreign capitalist corporations are involved knee deep in the organized cultural subversion of Iranian society, in the effort to uproot and destroy Iranian families, to corrupt Iranian youth etc, orchestrated by the zio-American empire and its traitorous local collaborators. The clip in question is not that new and was met with protests from great numbers of Iranian citizens right upon its release.

So I think we should be in agreement about the implicit but highly obvious sexual nature of this advert. Now like it or not, our culture strictly confines sexuality to the private sphere; we don't talk sex in public, we don't accomplish sexually laden acts in front of strangers and nā-mahram folk including relatives. It has been so before the arrival of Islam as well. We don't want this rampant and crushing sexualization of the social sphere characteristic of freemason- and zionist-controled western regimes, which is a direct threat to the mental well being of our children as well, to be introduced in Islamic Iran. I don't want my children or grandchildren to be bombarded with pornography and sexually oriented material every time they turn on the TV, every time they go out, every time they listen to a piece of music etc. Do you?

This doesn't make us "Taleban". They weren't doing this in the west either - prior to the so-called "sexual revolution" of the 1950's, which in fact was the result of a carefully planned and executed social engineering effort by the powers-to-be, amplified by the impact of the so-called student protests of 1968 along with so-called "cultural Marxism" and Freudo-Marxism, both of which represent a complete perversion of Karl Marx's revolutionary outlook by the way. Now, would you label the westerners of 60-70 years ago as "Taleban" because they wouldn't allow suggestive pornography in adverts? I doubt it.

It also has nothing to do with being religious or irreligious. Contrary to what some seem to believe, owing to an insufficiently informed, binary view of things, fervently religious people are by far not the only ones to oppose this degenerate social-cultural order imposed onto nations by western-based globalist oligarchs, by the international financial mafia, by masonic lodges and zionists. Those assuming otherwise should research present time conservative currents in the same west they look up to in various ways, and they'd realize there are all sorts of individuals in those movements including outright atheists.

Heck, even the intelligent left, the one which understands Marx correctly is largely on the same page as us in this regard. Because it can see how the capital, how Wall Street since the end of WW2 is no longer on the side of social and cultural conservatism but on the contrary, is methodically promoting savage societal liberalism and deconstruction of traditional values. Hence why the conservative family father of old, with at least an outward attachment to religion has definitively given way to the figure of the pro-LGBT boho bourgeois in the new millennium.

A Marxian thinker who beautifully theorized this is the French philosopher and sociologist Michel Clouscard, who was noted for a powerful critique of what he termed libertarian liberalism (as opposed to the socially conservative liberalism read capitalism of the 19th and early 20th centuries). Clouscard to me is simply one of the brightest thinkers of the past century.

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A key concept he introduced was that of capitalism of seduction, explaining how post-WW2 capitalists started favoring a model based on cultural permissivity. In the sense that the act of consumption itself became similar to the satisfaction of a sexual desire, that the new consumer goods released by capitalists were marketed as "cool" and "sexy", appealing to the rebellious youth (like denim trousers etc), that advertising strategies increasingly delved into eroticism, nowadays even explicit or suggestive pornography.

To my knowledge Clouscard's publications, quite astonishingly, haven't been translated into English (I wonder why... not), but those who wish to widen their intellectual horizon really, and I mean really ought to read the following paper discussing the work of this brilliant author:


In truth, what we're witnessing today is an existential battle between those who believe in either a traditionally rooted religion or in natural law (who can be agnostics, atheists etc) on the one hand, and those who don't and will automatically follow whatever the west's ruling elites, capitalists and their local fifth columns will introduce in terms of cultural standards on the other hand.

Back to Iran, I'm still to read up on what decision was taken and by which institution since in most cases like these, narratives peddled by the western-dominated mainstream media happen to be non-factual and fallacious. In my view there needs to be a law that prohibits sexual references and simulated sexual acts in media productions in Iran; this would seem more efficient than simply banning females from appearing in audiovisual advertising. Again this seems extremely urgent to me, since liberals in the Iranian film industry have sneakily started injecting inappropriate sexual innuendo into productions such as TV series watched by a large amount of viewers including children (in one comedy series, an implied joke about the length of male genitals could even be seen a few years ago).

So if Iranian authorities truly take the necessary steps to put an end to this dangerous trend, I will salute it a million times. If they take the required measures, ya haqq. I see two issues: one, authorities have tended to become a little soft in these matters. And two, too many laws and regulations in Iran are hardly being enforced in practice. Let's hope something will be done in this regard, and soon. Prayers offered and fingers crossed!

a detailed answer to the news and what really the order was in this post
 

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There are now multiple articles online stating that Russia is already using Iran's Shahed-129 in Ukraine.They all seem to stem from an ISW article claiming that Iran has handed Russia 46 drones.

One article also claims that one that Iran is trading drones to Russia partially in exchange for SU-35.

Again it would make sense for Iran to trade drone to Russia and to use them as partial payments for flankers. That could actually be feasible. But in a heavily contested airspace, why the Shahed-129. It'll be shot down as easily as the TB-2.

In such an airspace Russia would be better off with the Ababil-2, Ababil-5, Mohajer-6. Because for the price of one Shahed-129 they could acquire dozens of Ababils-2s/5s and Mohajer-6's and saturate Ukraine's airspace. Using such drones in conjunction with Russia's articcle and MLRS would actually be a very feasible and effective option.

The Shahed 136, which is similar to the KUB-BLA would also be a potent option.

Anyways let's see what happens.
 

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a detailed answer to the news and what really the order was in this post
Many Thanks to you @Hack-Hook for your effort to clarify that this was a Fake news..

@SalarHaqq ..I agree with you that the content of the Ad is not appropriate ..We now know that the entire thing was a low level government employee doing something way above his pay grade and the issue was corrected by higher ups.

PS: the OP of the article in the PDF is a well known Jew (using Iran and Greece flags) who publishes and spreads anti Iran fake news in the PDF....weakness of Iranian PR establishment is again in full display..no denial or hint of this fake incident in the Iranian main media..and the news goes viral...
 

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Some comments from non-Iranians regarding the appalling ice cream advert:

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Both users reside in the west so they tend to know what they're talking about (unlike Iranians who've never spent time here yet idealize almost everything about the west). None is a hardcore Islamist to my knowledge let alone a follower of "Taleban" ideology. The second user cited has often condemned in staunch terms the positions of so-called fundamentalists on societal and cultural topics, this I know for a fact.

And they are both absolutely correct. Iranians captive to the unrelenting desire to resemble the west, to possess everything westerners possess, to live like westerners, who feel they are nothing unless and until Iran aligns on global norms, ought to carefully ponder these simple words quoted above: an advert like this would get banned for general audiences in the USA due to its sleazy, suggestive pornographic nature. It does not conform to minimal requirements even under the debased norms prevailing in the west, this is how depraved it is.

Frankly if the Islamic Republic backs off because of factually unfounded cries from the liberal and westernized crowd that "we will become the laughing stock of the world" for banning junk like this, then Iran - not just Islam, is in deep trouble. If the Magnum company is not sanctioned, authorities will have failed their people in this important matter.

To our respected decision makers: please, do not be intimidated by Manoto-watchers and the rest of the oppositionist crowd, it's the future of our children, of our families, of our religion and of our nation which are at stake. Religious folk aren't the only ones to reject these sorts of aberrations, many among the secularized citizens are clear sighted and conscious enough to subscribe to any appropriate measures designed to stop in its tracks this slow, creeping but dangerous tendency towards sexualization of mass media productions intended for Iranian audiences, some of which like these adverts can readily be found on Iranian-based "social media".
 
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Nothing from sartip Heydari about the conflict in the southern Caucasus during the past 16 days.

See: https://ana.press/fa/search/5/-1/-1/20/امیر سرتیپ کیومرث حیدری

So it's fake news, or an old statement misleadingly portrayed as recent. Unbelievable how full of bogus reports these so-called social media are. My suggestion is, we should all try and verify anything we find there before sharing (personally I never use them).
Yeah, come to think of it, I’m pretty sure both the statement and pic are old. Will delete or update if I can although prolly too late.
 

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