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SalarHaqq

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I was in police force in Saravan (Sistan & Baluchestan), at the Pakistan border , when I was conscripted. police had three branch a border guard and a regular police force and traffic police , which actually was part of the regular police.
so if they say border guard it can be police , it can be IRGC , we don't have a separate border guard unit. when border is at the hand of IRGC , they are IRGC , when it is at the hand of police it's police

I see.

its the place the most amount of fuel is smuggled so it may be that.

Some kind of smuggling gang it must be because they were armed. This was on the border with Afghanistan, as far as I know fuel smuggling essentially happens from the Iranian side into Pakistan whereas on the Afghan border it's more like opium and heroin entering Iran. So narcotics smugglers would be more likely.
 

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I'm watching the interview currently and already I am amazed by two things that caught my immediate attention:

1) The comparisons between the an140 and the Simorgh models show how truly different and better Simorgh is in every aspect. Didn't notice the differences when I first saw the documentary in another thread but Mr. Azarmehr pointed out the differences and this interview I truly appreciate the scope of the improvements made to the design.
From a purely aesthetic viewpoint, Simorgh is more muscular and military looking plane, whereas an140 looks feminine and puny by contrast. I can so see a flat array of radars on Simorgh acting as an awacs and definitely a replacement or supplement to the p3s.

2) The recent tomcat crash was due to the failure of an entirely homemade copy of the tf30; which means that once the production of this engine is mastered, only an airborne aesa is needed to make anything Iran designs fly and combat worthy, even qaher at that point.

Haven't even finished the interview yet and already missed some of the missile talk earlier.
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I highly recommend this documentary "What Is a Woman?".

It's about gender dysphoria in corrupt US (west) society, and even though it doesn't try to find the cause, yet it correctly shows the society (not genetics disorder) as the main root of homosexuality.
It's really shocking to see this f@cked up society advocates homosexuality even in schools.

Director bolds a paradox and constantly asks a very simple question from specialists 'what is a woman', yet apparently there is no answer for it in US, cause now being a man or woman or even human is a matter of choice! but choosing what!? what was the definition of woman!
 

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Some kind of smuggling gang it must be because they were armed. This was on the border with Afghanistan, as far as I know fuel smuggling essentially happens from the Iranian side into Pakistan whereas on the Afghan border it's more like opium and heroin entering Iran. So narcotics smugglers would be more likely.
probably

2) The recent tomcat crash was due to the failure of an entirely homemade copy of the tf30; which means that once the production of this engine is mastered, only an airborne aesa is needed to make anything Iran designs fly and combat worthy, even qaher at that point.
you mean they change both engine while testing it?
 
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you mean they change both engine while testing it?
It would not make sense to do so because they initially tested owj along an orginal J85 in the f5s before trusting them solely for kowsar and yasin. Could it be that something else failed and caused the crash? It was a plane that had been grounded for some time and only recently put back in service.
 

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It would not make sense to do so because they initially tested owj along an orginal J85 in the f5s before trusting them solely for kowsar and yasin. Could it be that something else failed and caused the crash? It was a plane that had been grounded for some time and only recently put back in service.

Where is proof, Iran managed to reverse engineer TF-30?

yet it correctly shows the society (not genetics disorder) as the main root of homosexuality.

Mohsen get out of the Caveman age. Homosexuality has been seen among intelligent animals and traces its roots to earliest major human civilizations.

The vast majority (if not nearly all) of homosexuality is a biochemistry issue not a environment issue.

Homosexuality in Iran exists, so does that mean the IR of Iran are turning Iranians gay? Nonsense.
 

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Rape, murder, beastiaity... have also been common since millenia.... doesn´t mean it should be normalised in society.

The current western encouragement of these perversions cannot in anyway be seen as normal or good for any society.
 

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There's clearly a policy by western regimes, initiated around a decade ago, to promote homosexuality, and it starts with "sexual education" programs that are now part of school curriculae for kids as young as 6, 7 or 8. Parents trying to teach their children that they should be attracted by the opposite sex are punishable by law, in the name of "non discrimination".

Also, the correlation between biological and "subjective" gender identity is being questioned and a "fluid", freely changing gender identity explicitly encouraged. This is why in the west, you can simply declare that you "feel" like being of the opposite sex (without subjecting yourself to any sex change operation or the like), and state authorities are legally obliged to document the change in your identity papers!

All of this has been theorized by so-called third generation feminists closely associated with the "LGBT movement", such as Judith Butler. The madness is referenced by the concept of gender theory. Therefore, one would need to be oblivious to these essential and unprecedented social developments to suggest that there's no difference between the west and Iran in this regard.
 

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Salam Salar 👋

I have to highly disagree with all your post and thoughts, would have skipped it if you didn't mentioned it twice.

There is nothing valuable on Orthodox Christians, Protestants,... to be compared to any Muslim branch.

Their Trinity nonsense created by churches, make actual Christianity almost a non Abraham's religion.

Mixing politics (Russian / Iran) with religion (Orthodox / Shia) is a dangerous game 🤔
What was the traditional relationship between Tunisian muslims and Italian Catholics from the Medoeval era to the Modern Era since they are neighbours?

Salam Salar 👋

I have to highly disagree with all your post and thoughts, would have skipped it if you didn't mentioned it twice.

There is nothing valuable on Orthodox Christians, Protestants,... to be compared to any Muslim branch.

Their Trinity nonsense created by churches, make actual Christianity almost a non Abraham's religion.

Mixing politics (Russian / Iran) with religion (Orthodox / Shia) is a dangerous game 🤔
What was the traditional relationship between Tunisian muslims and Italian Catholics from the Medoeval era to the Modern Era since they are neighbours?
 

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There's clearly a policy by western regimes, initiated around a decade ago, to promote homosexuality, and it starts with "sexual education" programs that are now part of school curriculae for kids as young as 6, 7 or 8. Parents trying to teach their children that they should be attracted by the opposite sex are punishable by law, in the name of "non discrimination".

Also, the correlation between biological and "subjective" gender identity is being questioned and a "fluid", freely changing gender identity explicitly encouraged. This is why in the west, you can simply declare that you "feel" like being of the opposite sex (without subjecting yourself to any sex change operation or the like), and state authorities are legally obliged to document the change in your identity papers!

All of this has been theorized by so-called third generation feminists closely associated with the "LGBT movement", such as Judith Butler. The madness is referenced by the concept of gender theory. Therefore, one would need to be oblivious to these essential and unprecedented social developments to suggest that there's no difference between the west and Iran in this regard.

Homosexuality and gender fluidity are not the same topic. You have tendency to merge a bunch of similar but unrelated topics into the same argument.

Homosexuality means just that. One attraction...to ones own sex.

It exists in Iran, it exists in Afghanistan, it exists in villages to metropolitan areas all across the world who don’t even have access to western promotion of LBTQ+. It has existed long before your entire family lineage line existed. Long before America existed or Rome existed or Greek empires existed.

Given its appearance in other species and mammals. Signs point to a genetic chemistry origin, not an environment origin. Not from someone being told what gay is and suddenly wanting to be gay. Even the US military failed trying to build a “gay bomb” (yes ignorant scientists do exist)

Debate the morality of wether homosexuality should be society accepted or not. That is fine. That is one’s opinion. But denying how it arises from scientific standpoint in the human body, is just plain ignorance.
 

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Homosexuality and gender fluidity are not the same topic. You have tendency to merge a bunch of similar but unrelated topics into the same argument. Homosexuality means just that. One attraction...to ones own sex.

It exists in Iran, it exists in Afghanistan, it exists in villages to metropolitan areas all across the world who don’t even have access to western promotion of LBTQ+. It has existed long before your entire family lineage line existed. Long before America existed or Rome existed or Greek empires existed.

Given its appearance in other species and mammals. Signs point to a genetic chemistry origin, not an environment origin. Not from someone being told what gay is and suddenly wanting to be gay. Even the US military failed trying to build a “gay bomb” (yes ignorant scientists do exist)

Debate the morality of wether homosexuality should be society accepted or not. That is fine. That is one’s opinion. But denying how it arises from scientific standpoint in the human body, is just plain ignorance.

Read mohsen's post again, as well as the subject of that documentary: it touches upon what I expounded on, namely the way in which the LGBT lobby and its backers in the political establishment of the west are engaging in promotion of homosexuality on a large scale, in other words striving to increase its frequency in society.

Nobody's denying that in every society, a small number of people are bound to exhibit this sort of tendency. But this here is about a political program taking aim at the social norm in terms of sexual practices. Also, it's paramount to take into account the key difference between individual homosexuals who confine the manifestation of their sexual tendency to the private sphere on the one hand - which has always been the norm, and (post-)modern homosexualism, a communalist and identitarian type of militancy with a specific social and political agenda on the other hand.

The "natural" occurrence of homosexuality you're referring to does not change the fact that in practically every human society throughout history, homosexuality has systematically been a marginal type of practice (in ancient Greece, it was more a case of institutionalized pederasty ie paedocriminality). Because that's what a society founded upon the nuclear family structure as well as human biology itself will inevitably generate: overwhelmingly heterosexual communities of people.

And now we have an oligarchic cabal which is trying to break apart this whole natural order, including every one of its intimately intertwined components - and yes, these are inextricably interdependent: family structure, principle of filiation, hetero-normativity, and correlation of biological and subjective gender identity as a highly dominant feature in human psychology.

The very same forces are busy instilling the notion of gender fluidity into the minds of children. Everyone should be able to see the immediate link that exists between dissociation of biological from subjective gender identity (which produces so-called gender fluidity) and disruption of hetero-normativity (the fact that heterosexual preference is most widespread by a huge margin).

This is not about whether homosexuals can be found everywhere. It's about an organized attempt from the powers-to-be to trivialize homosexuality, to pretend it is equivalent to heterosexuality in its social relevance under the pretext of resistance against "all forms of discrimination", and to "fluidify" both gender identity and so-called sexual preference since these two go hand in hand, in order to destroy the fundamental foundations upon which society has traditionally rested. The goal behind this is to rip humans away from their natural points of reference, to create an amorphous mass of identity-less, manipulable zombies.

There's an extensive agenda at work and the discussion is a social and political one in essence.
 
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It is a very extraordinary claim and one that Iran would not keep in the dark if it had mastered this engine. Maybe the project is in its infancy or it might not be a tf 30 but something close to it?

No, I am asking where you heard this. It was mentioned by an Iranian official?

TF30 is a 1960’s engine, so reverse engineering it wouldn’t be impossible But would a very serious jump in Iran’s capability.

I remember during the Qaher unveiling, an Iranian official said they presented the Supreme Leader with the the option to attempt to reverse engineer F-14, but he said no that we should build our own design. Now I don’t know if that was just ramblings of someone trying to make Qaher F-313 unveiling look good or not.

But I would be surprised Iran would stick an Iranian built TF-30 into an F-14 without testing it quite extensively to the point it was ready for mass production. Because losing an F-14 is a very very costly thing for Iran’s airforce.
 

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