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Sineva

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Just saw something both hilarious and sickening on the bbc,it featured a story about a water shortage in khuzestan.The announcer trotted out what looked to be your typical talking head "expert" to interview,he introduced said talking head and the organisation that they were from.This rather shockingly turned out to be the hard line right-wing think tank,💩the foundation for the defense of democracies💩,which the announcer then bizarrely described as a "non-profit group".😲
This is the sort of sh!t I`d expect of faux news....literally
Truly unbelievable.....or not.:rolleyes:
 

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the correct chain of event was Chinese tried to sell Iran J-10 but Iran air force was not impressed with the airplane
The current adminstarotrs of air force don't want anything new because they are lazy and don't want to put pressure on themselves by introducing new fighters , so even f22 and f35 and b2 won't impress them ...
 

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روز بعد از اینکه عملیات آبگیری صورت گرفت، بخش زیرین سد که معمولاً سیستم‌های زیرین و دستگاه‌های حساس و سنسور‌های کنترل است پر ازنمک شده است؛ این مساله دقیقاً ۱۰ روز بعد از آبگیری رخ داد؛ اتفاقی که مثل روز برای ما روشن بود و هر چه هشدار می‌دادیم کسی گوش نمی‌کرد.



بعد از آن مطالعات نشان داد که تمامی مناطق اطراف گتوند و عقیلی، زمین‌های مرغوب کشاورزی این مناطق به دلیل گسترش نمک و تبخیر در حال شوره‌زار شدن هستند و مردم تمام دارایی خود را دارند از دست می‌دهند و هیچ استفاده‌ای از سد و آب شور آن نمی‌توان کرد.

قبل از آبگیری ما بار‌ها هشدار دادیم توربین‌هایی که برای سد خریداری شده برای آب شیرین است و شما میلیارد‌ها میلیارد هزینه کرده‌اید برای آبی که شور خواهد شد. حالا آن توربین‌ها هم کاربردی برای آب شیرین ندارند. هم اکنون توربین‌ها از کار افتاده‌اند.

چندی پیش مدیر روابط عمومی شرکت آب و نیرو سد گتوند از من دعوت کرد از سد بازدید کنم. گفتند آن‌طور که شما تصور می‌کنید نمکی وجود ندارد و نهایتاً یک لایه چهارمتری نمک هست که آن را خارج می‌کنیم! با تعجب دیدم چند لایه نازک چهار تا پنج متری زده‌اند.



از جوانک خواستم که محدوده ۵۰ متری را برای گمانه‌زنی و حفاری انتخاب کند و تا عمق ۵۰ متری نیز جلو بروند بعد متوجه خواهند شد با دریای عظیمی از نمک مواجه خواهند شد. بعد از آن مهندسان آزمایشگاه مکانیک خاک برآورد کردند که تا ۹۳ متر ضخامت نمک است. بعد از آن دوستان ما در سد گتوند می‌گفتند ما می‌دانیم چه بلایی سر این منطقه آورده‌ایم، اما تو را به خدا چیزی نگویید و رسانه‌ای نشود!
 

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Iran is not the only country dealing with water scarcity issues. It's a problem plaguing the world. There are solutions but implementation isn't always easy.





روز بعد از اینکه عملیات آبگیری صورت گرفت، بخش زیرین سد که معمولاً سیستم‌های زیرین و دستگاه‌های حساس و سنسور‌های کنترل است پر ازنمک شده است؛ این مساله دقیقاً ۱۰ روز بعد از آبگیری رخ داد؛ اتفاقی که مثل روز برای ما روشن بود و هر چه هشدار می‌دادیم کسی گوش نمی‌کرد.



بعد از آن مطالعات نشان داد که تمامی مناطق اطراف گتوند و عقیلی، زمین‌های مرغوب کشاورزی این مناطق به دلیل گسترش نمک و تبخیر در حال شوره‌زار شدن هستند و مردم تمام دارایی خود را دارند از دست می‌دهند و هیچ استفاده‌ای از سد و آب شور آن نمی‌توان کرد.

قبل از آبگیری ما بار‌ها هشدار دادیم توربین‌هایی که برای سد خریداری شده برای آب شیرین است و شما میلیارد‌ها میلیارد هزینه کرده‌اید برای آبی که شور خواهد شد. حالا آن توربین‌ها هم کاربردی برای آب شیرین ندارند. هم اکنون توربین‌ها از کار افتاده‌اند.

چندی پیش مدیر روابط عمومی شرکت آب و نیرو سد گتوند از من دعوت کرد از سد بازدید کنم. گفتند آن‌طور که شما تصور می‌کنید نمکی وجود ندارد و نهایتاً یک لایه چهارمتری نمک هست که آن را خارج می‌کنیم! با تعجب دیدم چند لایه نازک چهار تا پنج متری زده‌اند.



از جوانک خواستم که محدوده ۵۰ متری را برای گمانه‌زنی و حفاری انتخاب کند و تا عمق ۵۰ متری نیز جلو بروند بعد متوجه خواهند شد با دریای عظیمی از نمک مواجه خواهند شد. بعد از آن مهندسان آزمایشگاه مکانیک خاک برآورد کردند که تا ۹۳ متر ضخامت نمک است. بعد از آن دوستان ما در سد گتوند می‌گفتند ما می‌دانیم چه بلایی سر این منطقه آورده‌ایم، اما تو را به خدا چیزی نگویید و رسانه‌ای نشود!
 

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From what I've heard, China wanted to sell Iran the JF-17. Iranian representatives rejected that idea and showed interest in the J-10 instead.

They were negotiating to purchase 32 J-10's I believe. The problem is that China wants Iran to pay for the fighters with foreign currency or gold. Iran wanted to pay with oil or by bartering. That's where they can't seem to agree with each other.

When it comes to Russia Iran seems to be most interested in the SU-30 or SU-27 variants. The Chinese equivalent would be the J-11 but I'm not sure if China imports that specific model.

Anyways in its current form Iran's airforce cannot sustain itself for more than 10 years. Many of the fighter jets in Iran's inventory are really on their last legs. The F-4's for example must be replaced soon. Yes even Turkey is still flying them but they're 50+ years old now.

Within the next two decades Iran either has to produce or purchase dozens of 4th generation fighter jets to keep the airforce air worthy and functional.

Unfortunately the only feasible fighter jet Iran has been able to produce has been the F-5, which Iran has been able to successfully reverse engineer. Iran also seems to be able to build trainers. But aside from that we have never seen anything more than experimental models like Shafaq or Qaher which have never flown.

I'm curios to see what this new administration will do. They can always build more modern variants of the F-5, but they really need modern fighter jets in their inventory.

The current adminstarotrs of air force don't want anything new because they are lazy and don't want to put pressure on themselves by introducing new fighters , so even f22 and f35 and b2 won't impress them ...
 

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Asghar Farhadi: "Iran is a repressive country in which you have no freedom to speak up and say what you think."

Sure, so repressive that he or his colleagues from the Iranian show business can relay the anti-Iran propaganda concocted by Washington and Tel Aviv on social media and elsewhere with no fear of consequences.

Asghar Farhadi: "Of course now with the troubles with China they also use social media for politics"

Ah, the "troubles" in China / Hong Kong. I guess only the west (and select vassals) is "free" then and spared from any "political troubles". We nations of the south should just take declining, hypocritical western secular liberal "democracies" as our roles models... not.

Asghar Farhadi: "I think extremes are very similar, no matter what country or political systems. Of course having Joe Biden in place makes the whole world a better place. I have no doubt about that. But as for Iran and trying to predict whether it’s going to help things with Iran, well while Trump was having such extreme behavior and reaction towards Iran, there was the same kind of extremism in Iran. So, of course they were on the opposite side, but their way of behaving and reflecting was the same. And in Iran the same people are still in power. So there should be a change also on the Iranian side in order to make sure that there can be an improvement on both sides."

Read: the Supreme Leader and the IRGC, who are "still in power", are "extremists" of the same caliber as Trump, and ought to be replaced, as they and Trump represent two sides of the same coin, according to what Farhadi appears to be quite unequivocally suggesting here. Reformists / centrists are "good" and revolutionaries "bad". Iran should just follow the liberal agenda and bow to whatever the US regime dictates, and then end up like Libya or Iraq.

This is why Farhadi receiving a standing ovation at the film festival of Cannes is hardly more enjoyable than Shirin Ebadi winning the Nobel Prize.

Source of the quotes: https://variety.com/2021/film/news/asghar-farhadi-social-media-iran-a-hero-1235018313/
 
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On July 20th, Iran saw it's largest number of confirmed Covid-19 cases,
27,444 people were confirmed positive.

The last time the case counts were this high was April 15-19th. During that time, daily deaths had reached 400+. This time, despite the large number of case counts, deaths are currently at 200+ daily, although numbers are increasing.

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I agree, for them to use their future tactical 50 kiloton nuclear bombs, they'd have to penetrate Iranian IADS, or sneak through Iran's topography to reach close to their targets. Iran does have great detection capabilities that's correct, that being said, I'm not going to sit here and pretend Iran is a impenetrable fortress. I don't know what black projects they have worked on, or their offensive cyber capabilities but don't keep a closed mind about it. Prepare for the worst case scenario.
From a technical and theoretical point of view, Iran may not be an unassailable fortress for the US military. But, at acceptable political if not economic cost for the aggressor, it pretty much is.

Of course, never rest on your laurels as you said, do always consider worst case scenarii and do plan accordingly. Also, this is a permanently ongoing process bound to last until the day on which the enemy is defeated.

Concerning America's black projects, the issue is that the mere fact of their probable existence does not allow us to invalidate what we can establish from publicly known information, else we couldn't operate any simulations nor could we really discuss the topic at hand, since by definition nothing is known about these secret projects. Also, Iran too has covert arms programs.

But, to the best of my knowledge the outcome of a war has seldom been determined by one or even several secret weapons alone - the Asian-Pacific facet of WW2 representing perhaps a notable exception, with the US regime's use of nuclear arms against Japanese civilians. However the latter is clearly a weapon of unusual destructive scale and thus of unequalled relevance to warfare. Such overly game-changing single devices aren't invented every day to say the least.

In the grand scheme of things therefore, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over US black projects while acknowledging the possibility.

You mention Patarames later on here, and he also said himself, the bases need to empty out of their inventories as soon as possible because they will not be able to survive forever in the face of nuclear Jericho missiles or nuclear bunker busters in the event that their is a air campaign (although it is doubtful in my opinion).
What I was referring to, is his analysis in the following weblog article from November 2020 (you were referencing the same one, I think):
https://patarames.blogspot.com/2020/11/irans-path-to-second-strike-capability.html

It is a complex enough issue. Iran employs both the cavern shaft basing method and the railway-wagon / open-air pit method. The latter allows for a higher rate of fire at comparable degree of survivability. The author concludes his piece in the following terms:

"The concept brings Iran closer to achieve a capability no other country has: Deter nuclear powers from a preemptive counter-force strike by conventional means."

That being said, even if Iran's hardened bases might be defeated by multiple nuclear (bunker buster) strikes, Iran also uses the buried missile container method as well as mobile TEL's which blend perfectly into its topography.

I would therefore say that given sufficient numbers of missiles affected to each of these launching methods, it will be extremely hard if not practically impossible for the enemy to achieve an efficient and timely enough suppression of all theses assets in a manner that would preempt the severe BM retaliation which has so far successfully deterred military aggression against Iran.

You know better than I do, about the Zionist control of western and global media. They will make up some lie that Iran was imminently about to conduct first strike on Israel with WMDs only to find out year later it was a lie. The Israelis can use how ever many nuclear weapons they want and the media will always sympathize with them, not to mention they will justify them as being "tactical" and "in remote areas" like how they flattened an Afghan village with the MOAB. Again, prepare for the worst case scenario.
I'm not doubting this at all. Indeed, it's certainly not public opinion that will make them think twice.

But, given such a precedent set by the US, subsequent adjustments of Russian and Chinese nuclear first strike doctrines, especially with tactical nuclear weapons surely will.

He never said they are immune, no base is immune, you strike the base with enough force to disable it. Simple as that, the smaller the CEP, the less force required.
Patarames mentioned about Jericho missiles being used as a first strike nuclear weapon which is likely the main option. If you re-read again, he clearly mentions that while the CEP of these Jericho's are too large to disable the bases because the nuclear hardened bases can absorb the shock of a nearby nuclear blast, multiple hits to the silo entrances with a 30m CEP improved Jericho will be difficult to withstand.

Hence, remember why a system like Bavar-373 was developed with anti-ballistic missile capability. It is the main threat from the Zionist's. The S-300PMU2 will also be useful in this regard. We need them to counter their Jericho's as much as possible so that we can respond with power. They have over 100 nuclear Jericho's and 200 is worst case.
Well, let's try to do the math: years ago Iran had - at the very least - 31 underground missiles cities, in reference to the Iranian military commander's statement according to which they've constructed a minimum of one such base per province. I would suggest 50 underground missile bases, perhaps even 60, 70 or 80 might not be an exaggeration.

Now as you explained, the enemy would have to achieve several nuclear hits per base. It doesn't seem very feasible with 100 or 200 missiles.

And this is without mentioning thousands of TEL's and buried missile canisters - as well as an even greater number of decoys fielded by Iran.

That being said, Iran has made it so, that only nuclear force can stop it, because it has developed such immense conventional counter force and protection. Everything you said here I agree with, that being said, their is one way to stop Iran and it is pretty clear as I've said earlier, low CEP nuclear missiles to each known base, including Natanz and Fordow.
Even the theoretical destruction of Iran's known nuclear sites by means of atomic weapons, will not be sufficient to stop Iran. In the immediate aftermath of this sort of an event, Iran will leave the NPT and initiate a massive nuclear program at perfectly unknown locations and at full speed, in addition to having each and every potential spy, informant or fifth-columnist executed.

In the end, nothing short of a fully fledged invasion can prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, should Iran actually decide to do so. And we know that the cost of such an endeavor will not be bearable to the enemy.

I promise you, if we unload 1000 ballistic missiles onto Tel-Aviv with an average warhead of 750kg at Mach, lets say 8. They will use their Jericho's to stop the bases at all costs.
Here the conclusions stemming from the sequence of events aren't taken into account: the point is that the zionist regime cannot afford nor tolerate the social and political costs of 1000 ballistic missiles getting unloaded onto Tel Aviv. Neither can the US regime, by the way, largely controlled as it is by zionist and related oligarchic networks.

In other terms, whether or not the zionists would then proceed to launching their nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles is no longer relevant, since it won't even come to this eventuality, considering that they cannot stomach the 1000 BM's they know would be coming their way in response to an actual military aggression of Iran.

Hence, Iran has already established credible and solid deterrence with purely conventional means against all out military attack by its nuclear-armed foes. Quod erat demonstrandum.
 
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روز بعد از اینکه عملیات آبگیری صورت گرفت، بخش زیرین سد که معمولاً سیستم‌های زیرین و دستگاه‌های حساس و سنسور‌های کنترل است پر ازنمک شده است؛ این مساله دقیقاً ۱۰ روز بعد از آبگیری رخ داد؛ اتفاقی که مثل روز برای ما روشن بود و هر چه هشدار می‌دادیم کسی گوش نمی‌کرد.



بعد از آن مطالعات نشان داد که تمامی مناطق اطراف گتوند و عقیلی، زمین‌های مرغوب کشاورزی این مناطق به دلیل گسترش نمک و تبخیر در حال شوره‌زار شدن هستند و مردم تمام دارایی خود را دارند از دست می‌دهند و هیچ استفاده‌ای از سد و آب شور آن نمی‌توان کرد.

قبل از آبگیری ما بار‌ها هشدار دادیم توربین‌هایی که برای سد خریداری شده برای آب شیرین است و شما میلیارد‌ها میلیارد هزینه کرده‌اید برای آبی که شور خواهد شد. حالا آن توربین‌ها هم کاربردی برای آب شیرین ندارند. هم اکنون توربین‌ها از کار افتاده‌اند.

چندی پیش مدیر روابط عمومی شرکت آب و نیرو سد گتوند از من دعوت کرد از سد بازدید کنم. گفتند آن‌طور که شما تصور می‌کنید نمکی وجود ندارد و نهایتاً یک لایه چهارمتری نمک هست که آن را خارج می‌کنیم! با تعجب دیدم چند لایه نازک چهار تا پنج متری زده‌اند.



از جوانک خواستم که محدوده ۵۰ متری را برای گمانه‌زنی و حفاری انتخاب کند و تا عمق ۵۰ متری نیز جلو بروند بعد متوجه خواهند شد با دریای عظیمی از نمک مواجه خواهند شد. بعد از آن مهندسان آزمایشگاه مکانیک خاک برآورد کردند که تا ۹۳ متر ضخامت نمک است. بعد از آن دوستان ما در سد گتوند می‌گفتند ما می‌دانیم چه بلایی سر این منطقه آورده‌ایم، اما تو را به خدا چیزی نگویید و رسانه‌ای نشود!
This was the biggest crime, that it still angers me today. Their is no sense of accountability

The current adminstarotrs of air force don't want anything new because they are lazy and don't want to put pressure on themselves by introducing new fighters , so even f22 and f35 and b2 won't impress them ...
They don't trust the air force since Nojeh. Current admin are so useless they create a "rapid reaction unit"......for the airforce.

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I hope we get more photos ...this is from the official MAKS site.

The Islamic Republic of Iran presents civilian products at MAKS-2019 civilian products

The aviation industry enterprises of the Islamic Republic of Iran demonstrate only civil products and services at the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2019, said Dawud Najafi, Head of Trade and International Affairs of the Iranian Aeronautical Industry Organization.

The Islamic Republic of Iran presents civilian products at MAKS-2019 civilian products

"All the products we present at MAKS are for civilian use, including helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles and training aircraft. This is the second time in a row that we are participating in the exhibition in Russia, and we are pleased to present the capabilities of our aviation industry and discuss the prospects for cooperation," he said.

Dawud Najafi said that the presented Sorena and Shahed 278 light helicopters are designed for passenger and cargo transportation and aviation works. They can also be used to train civilian pilots.

An important place in the exposition was occupied by unmanned aerial vehicles. Scale models of four aircraft of various sizes are presented. According to Davud Najafi, they are designed to perform monitoring tasks in agriculture, oil and gas industry. Photo and video cameras are used as the target payload.

Mr. Dawud Najafi especially drew attention to the model of Mobin unmanned aerial vehicle, which was misreported by the media as a weapon sample. "One of the unmanned aerial vehicles displayed at the exhibition is only being designed, and we are presenting its model at the exhibition. Our designers are creating a project that will be used to monitor objects in hard-to-reach areas at a great distance, for example, to monitor oil and gas fields," he said. Dawud Najafi added that the appearance of the aircraft may change in the course of design work.

Also in the exposition of the Islamic Republic of Iran there are services of organizations specializing in maintenance and repair of civil aircraft, their units and systems. "We independently satisfy the needs of our civil aviation in all types of work, including maintenance and repair. For this purpose, we have mastered modern technologies for the production of aviation components and spare parts," said Dawud Najafi.


This report is from Tehran Times
Iranian knowledge-based companies attending Russian aviation and space expo
July 21, 2021 - 12:15


TEHRAN – Thirty Iranian knowledge-based companies have participated in the 15th International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2021, which opened in Russia on July 20 and will run through July 25.
The Iranian delegation aims to showcase their scientific achievements and expand foreign markets by introducing their products to the participant countries, especially Russia, IRNA reported.
The exhibition program of MAKS-2021 was made up of 829 companies from 56 countries of the world, taking into account absentee participants who joined the exhibition in remote mode, according to the exhibition’s website.
Sourena Sattari, vice president for science and technology, has said that Iran is playing the leading role in the region in the fields of fintech, ICT, stem cell, aerospace, and is unrivaled in artificial intelligence.
The country has so far created centers in six Asian countries, namely China, India, Indonesia, Syria, Turkey, and Iraq, for exporting nanotechnology products.
Iranian-made nanotechnology products are currently exported to 49 countries in five continents, he added.
For the time being, 725 nanotechnology products in 10 fields of industry are manufactured relying on indigenized technologies.
Prioritizing nanotechnology in Iran has led to this country’s steady placement among the five pioneers of the nanotechnology field in recent years, and approximately 20 percent of all articles provided by Iranian researchers in 2020 are relative to this area of technology.
Iran has been introduced as the 4th leading country in the world in the field of nanotechnology, publishing 11,546 scientific articles in 2020.
The country held a 6 percent share of the world’s total nanotechnology articles, according to StatNano's monthly evaluation accomplished in WoS databases.
There are 227 companies in Iran registered in the WoS databases, manufacturing 419 products, mainly in the fields of construction, textile, medicine, home appliances, automotive, and food.
 
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Well done and a good start :cheesy: :cheesy::
Shooter Foroughi wins Iran’s first gold at Tokyo 2020
TEHRAN - Javad Foroughi became the oldest Iranian athlete to win an Olympic medal, earning gold in men's 10-meter air pistol.
Foroughi set an Olympic record with 244.8 points, finishing 6.9 ahead of silver medalist Damir Mikec of Serbia. China's Pang Wei, the 2008 gold medalist, took bronze.
The 41-year-old Foroughi surpasses weightlifter Mahmoud Namdjou, who was 38 when he took bronze at the 1956 Melbourne Games.
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Protests which started in Khuzestan over the worst drought in 50 years have now spread to Tabriz.

A few days ago we also saw protests in Ahwaz, Bushehr, Khorramshahr, Bandare Mahshahr in Khuzestan, Masjed Soleiman, Yazdanshahr in Isfahan. I've also heard about some sporadic protests in Tehran.

People seem to be unhappy and no doubt some of this has to do with negligence, incompetence, corruption on the part of the local governments. However people should also take precautions by themselves.

For example, recently there was a heat wave in Canada, in western Canada 100+ elderly people died in their homes because of the overwhelming heat. Others had air conditioners and cold water ready for the occasion.

Almost every summer now in Iran, whether because of global warming or whatever else, droughts are not uncommon. Knowing that a drought is possible, why don't people stockpile water before the summer ?

Instead they wait for the calamity to hit and then blame the government for the woes. The government of course has the responsibility of warning people ahead of time but at the end of the day the government does not have unlimited resources.

People have to take precautions. I guess on average people are not too bright. They do nothing and then when things go wrong they blame the government.

Keep in mind that many of these protests are generally discontent with Iran's economic situation



 

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دوستان چن روز تا اومدن رییسی مونده

در این وخامت بورس چین و کندی بورس نیویورک سبدهای بورس ایران تون رو ببندید

رییسی نامزد بی ایرادی برای من و بعضی از شماها نیست

اما من اینده رو هم در کوتاه مدت و هم میان مدت مثبت میبینم​
 

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Protests which started in Khuzestan over the worst drought in 50 years have now spread to Tabriz.

A few days ago we also saw protests in Ahwaz, Bushehr, Khorramshahr, Bandare Mahshahr in Khuzestan, Masjed Soleiman, Yazdanshahr in Isfahan. I've also heard about some sporadic protests in Tehran.

People seem to be unhappy and no doubt some of this has to do with negligence, incompetence, corruption on the part of the local governments. However people should also take precautions by themselves.

For example, recently there was a heat wave in Canada, in western Canada 100+ elderly people died in their homes because of the overwhelming heat. Others had air conditioners and cold water ready for the occasion.

Almost every summer now in Iran, whether because of global warming or whatever else, droughts are not uncommon. Knowing that a drought is possible, why don't people stockpile water before the summer ?

Instead they wait for the calamity to hit and then blame the government for the woes. The government of course has the responsibility of warning people ahead of time but at the end of the day the government does not have unlimited resources.

People have to take precautions. I guess on average people are not too bright. They do nothing and then when things go wrong they blame the government.

Keep in mind that many of these protests are generally discontent with Iran's economic situation




You are very correct.

But also, there are SO MANY FORCES working together to demonize and villainize Iranian government, and blame them for everything. Said much better than I could, by Assal Rad, "... protesters in U.S. must be prosecuted for public violence according to U.S. government, BUT those in IRAN are innocent individuals protesting the monstrous Iranian government".

Hypocrisy of the West is indisputable.

However, these many forces joined and organized to demonize Iranian government, is hard to ignore the affects of it.

However, what does not kill you - makes you stronger.

Iran is weathering all this at the moment. Let's hope it can continue to do so. The alternative will be DEVASTATING.
I hope we get more photos ...this is from the official MAKS site.

The Islamic Republic of Iran presents civilian products at MAKS-2019 civilian products

The aviation industry enterprises of the Islamic Republic of Iran demonstrate only civil products and services at the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2019, said Dawud Najafi, Head of Trade and International Affairs of the Iranian Aeronautical Industry Organization.

The Islamic Republic of Iran presents civilian products at MAKS-2019 civilian products

"All the products we present at MAKS are for civilian use, including helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles and training aircraft. This is the second time in a row that we are participating in the exhibition in Russia, and we are pleased to present the capabilities of our aviation industry and discuss the prospects for cooperation," he said.

Dawud Najafi said that the presented Sorena and Shahed 278 light helicopters are designed for passenger and cargo transportation and aviation works. They can also be used to train civilian pilots.

An important place in the exposition was occupied by unmanned aerial vehicles. Scale models of four aircraft of various sizes are presented. According to Davud Najafi, they are designed to perform monitoring tasks in agriculture, oil and gas industry. Photo and video cameras are used as the target payload.

Mr. Dawud Najafi especially drew attention to the model of Mobin unmanned aerial vehicle, which was misreported by the media as a weapon sample. "One of the unmanned aerial vehicles displayed at the exhibition is only being designed, and we are presenting its model at the exhibition. Our designers are creating a project that will be used to monitor objects in hard-to-reach areas at a great distance, for example, to monitor oil and gas fields," he said. Dawud Najafi added that the appearance of the aircraft may change in the course of design work.

Also in the exposition of the Islamic Republic of Iran there are services of organizations specializing in maintenance and repair of civil aircraft, their units and systems. "We independently satisfy the needs of our civil aviation in all types of work, including maintenance and repair. For this purpose, we have mastered modern technologies for the production of aviation components and spare parts," said Dawud Najafi.


This report is from Tehran Times
Iranian knowledge-based companies attending Russian aviation and space expo
July 21, 2021 - 12:15


TEHRAN – Thirty Iranian knowledge-based companies have participated in the 15th International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2021, which opened in Russia on July 20 and will run through July 25.
The Iranian delegation aims to showcase their scientific achievements and expand foreign markets by introducing their products to the participant countries, especially Russia, IRNA reported.
The exhibition program of MAKS-2021 was made up of 829 companies from 56 countries of the world, taking into account absentee participants who joined the exhibition in remote mode, according to the exhibition’s website.
Sourena Sattari, vice president for science and technology, has said that Iran is playing the leading role in the region in the fields of fintech, ICT, stem cell, aerospace, and is unrivaled in artificial intelligence.
The country has so far created centers in six Asian countries, namely China, India, Indonesia, Syria, Turkey, and Iraq, for exporting nanotechnology products.
Iranian-made nanotechnology products are currently exported to 49 countries in five continents, he added.
For the time being, 725 nanotechnology products in 10 fields of industry are manufactured relying on indigenized technologies.
Prioritizing nanotechnology in Iran has led to this country’s steady placement among the five pioneers of the nanotechnology field in recent years, and approximately 20 percent of all articles provided by Iranian researchers in 2020 are relative to this area of technology.
Iran has been introduced as the 4th leading country in the world in the field of nanotechnology, publishing 11,546 scientific articles in 2020.
The country held a 6 percent share of the world’s total nanotechnology articles, according to StatNano's monthly evaluation accomplished in WoS databases.
There are 227 companies in Iran registered in the WoS databases, manufacturing 419 products, mainly in the fields of construction, textile, medicine, home appliances, automotive, and food.

Thank you Aryobarzan.
Great opportunity for Iran to negotiate a license to manufacture agreement with Russian companies, here at the exhibition, or start exploring other avenues, e.g. parts sales.
 

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From a technical and theoretical point of view, Iran may not be an unassailable fortress for the US military. But, at acceptable political if not economic cost for the aggressor, it pretty much is.

Of course, never rest on your laurels as you said, do always consider worst case scenarii and do plan accordingly. Also, this is a permanently ongoing process bound to last until the day on which the enemy is defeated.

Concerning America's black projects, the issue is that the mere fact of their probable existence does not allow us to invalidate what we can establish from publicly known information, else we couldn't operate any simulations nor could we really discuss the topic at hand, since by definition nothing is known about these secret projects. Also, Iran too has covert arms programs.

But, to the best of my knowledge the outcome of a war has seldom been determined by one or even several secret weapons alone - the Asian-Pacific facet of WW2 representing perhaps a notable exception, with the US regime's use of nuclear arms against Japanese civilians. However the latter is clearly a weapon of unusual destructive scale and thus of unequalled relevance to warfare. Such overly game-changing single devices aren't invented every day to say the least.

In the grand scheme of things therefore, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over US black projects while acknowledging the possibility.



What I was referring to, is his analysis in the following weblog article from November 2020 (you were referencing the same one, I think):
https://patarames.blogspot.com/2020/11/irans-path-to-second-strike-capability.html

It is a complex enough issue. Iran employs both the cavern shaft basing method and the railway-wagon / open-air pit method. The latter allows for a higher rate of fire at comparable degree of survivability. The author concludes his piece in the following terms:

"The concept brings Iran closer to achieve a capability no other country has: Deter nuclear powers from a preemptive counter-force strike by conventional means."

That being said, even if Iran's hardened bases might be defeated by multiple nuclear (bunker buster) strikes, Iran also uses the buried missile container method as well as mobile TEL's which blend perfectly into its topography.

I would therefore say that given sufficient numbers of missiles affected to each of these launching methods, it will be extremely hard if not practically impossible for the enemy to achieve an efficient and timely enough suppression of all theses assets in a manner that would preempt the severe BM retaliation which has so far successfully deterred military aggression against Iran.



I'm not doubting this at all. Indeed, it's certainly not public opinion that will make them think twice.

But, given such a precedent set by the US, subsequent adjustments of Russian and Chinese nuclear first strike doctrines, especially with tactical nuclear weapons surely will.



Well, let's try to do the math: years ago Iran had - at the very least - 31 underground missiles cities, in reference to the Iranian military commander's statement according to which they've constructed a minimum of one such base per province. I would suggest 50 underground missile bases, perhaps even 60, 70 or 80 might not be an exaggeration.

Now as you explained, the enemy would have to achieve several nuclear hits per base. It doesn't seem very feasible with 100 or 200 missiles.

And this is without mentioning thousands of TEL's and buried missile canisters - as well as an even greater number of decoys fielded by Iran.



Even the theoretical destruction of Iran's known nuclear sites by means of atomic weapons, will not be sufficient to stop Iran. In the immediate aftermath of this sort of an event, Iran will leave the NPT and initiate a massive nuclear program at perfectly unknown locations and at full speed, in addition to having each and every potential spy, informant or fifth-columnist executed.

In the end, nothing short of a fully fledged invasion can prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, should Iran actually decide to do so. And we know that the cost of such an endeavor will not be bearable to the enemy.



Here the conclusions stemming from the sequence of events aren't taken into account: the point is that the zionist regime cannot afford nor tolerate the social and political costs of 1000 ballistic missiles getting unloaded onto Tel Aviv. Neither can the US regime, by the way, largely controlled as it is by zionist and related oligarchic networks.

In other terms, whether or not the zionists would then proceed to launching their nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles is no longer relevant, since it won't even come to this eventuality, considering that they cannot stomach the 1000 BM's they know would be coming their way in response to an actual military aggression of Iran.

Hence, Iran has already established credible and solid deterrence with purely conventional means against all out military attack by its nuclear-armed foes. Quod erat demonstrandum.

100% excellent assessment by SalarHaqq.

I would like to add one more thing, not as significant as above, but worthy to add.

Israel and U.S. have agreed that Iran NOW HAS the technology knowledge (and like themselves in the past) can build nukes if it wished to do so. Be it next year, next decade, etc. they cannot afford to launch a nuke at Iran, and they will have to sit back and wait for retaliation.

This is not the same with Japan in WW2. The Japanese needed U.S. to protect them for all the atrocities they committed during the WW2 against others (China, Korea, Phi, etc.).

Everyone knows a nuke strike against Iran will mean they sit and waiting for a revenge attack later. Nukes have no strategic value other than mutual destruction which is why it has not been introduced since WW2 in a world of happy-to-murder for economic prosperity in the West.

Great post SalarHaqq, as usual.
Asghar Farhadi: "Iran is a repressive country in which you have no freedom to speak up and say what you think."

Sure, so repressive that he or his colleagues from the Iranian show business can relay the anti-Iran propaganda concocted by Washington and Tel Aviv on social media and elsewhere with no fear of consequences.

Asghar Farhadi: "Of course now with the troubles with China they also use social media for politics"

Ah, the "troubles" in China / Hong Kong. I guess only the west (and select vassals) is "free" then and spared from any "political troubles". We nations of the south should just take declining, hypocritical western secular liberal "democracies" as our roles models... not.

Asghar Farhadi: "I think extremes are very similar, no matter what country or political systems. Of course having Joe Biden in place makes the whole world a better place. I have no doubt about that. But as for Iran and trying to predict whether it’s going to help things with Iran, well while Trump was having such extreme behavior and reaction towards Iran, there was the same kind of extremism in Iran. So, of course they were on the opposite side, but their way of behaving and reflecting was the same. And in Iran the same people are still in power. So there should be a change also on the Iranian side in order to make sure that there can be an improvement on both sides."

Read: the Supreme Leader and the IRGC, who are "still in power", are "extremists" of the same caliber as Trump, and ought to be replaced, as they and Trump represent two sides of the same coin, according to what Farhadi appears to be quite unequivocally suggesting here. Reformists / centrists are "good" and revolutionaries "bad". Iran should just follow the liberal agenda and bow to whatever the US regime dictates, and then end up like Libya or Iraq.

This is why Farhadi receiving a standing ovation at the film festival of Cannes is hardly more enjoyable than Shirin Ebadi winning the Nobel Prize.

Source of the quotes: https://variety.com/2021/film/news/asghar-farhadi-social-media-iran-a-hero-1235018313/
My first and last impression of Farhadi's speech: IGNORANT
 

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