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iran is number 13 in the world in terms of total Coronavirus cases, with 3 million cases and 80,000 deaths

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این مرتیکه خر چی چی داره میگه نجنگید اگر اون بدبختا افتادن ریز یوغ طالبان بعدن افتادن دوباره به قتل عام کردنشون کاری میشه که این اسکل داره از این پیشنهادها میده؟ از نظر بنده این فتنه است، بعدا نظر خواهم داد، این مردک اصلا چیکاره هست این توصیه ها رو داره می کنه؟!

 
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این مرتیکه خر چی چی داره میگه نجنگید اگر اون بدبختا افتادن ریز یوغ طالبان بعدن افتادن دوباره به قتل عام کردنشون کاری میشه که این اسکل داره از این پیشنهادها میده؟ از نظر بنده این فتنه است، بعدا نظر خواهم داد، این مردک اصلا چیکاره هست این توصیه ها رو داره می کنه؟!

He is a nobody. A lowlife twitter troll that needs to be ignored.
 

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Vel kon in pashmaka ro. Man bishtar negarane in hamle jadid dar natanz hastam. @yavar @Arian @Blue In Green
Natanz ke hamle nashode, Ino Aval goftan tasisat vaksan sazi Barkat nazdik Karaj ro mikhastan bezanan bad goftan tasisat sherkat cantrifiuj sazi bode:
Goftan hamle movafagh nabode, Vali israel dari mige movafaghiat amiz bode:
Malom nist kodom raste, Vali ajab dastani shode, Kashki bezan dar ro bod alan jadidan ja kesha mizanan bad mimonan.
 
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Natanz ke hamle nashode, Ino Aval goftan tasisat vaksan sazi Barkat nazdik Karaj ro mikhastan bezanan bad goftan tasisat sherkat cantrifiuj sazi bode:
Goftan hamle movafagh nabode, Vali israel dari mige movafaghiat amiz bode:
Malom nist kodom raste, Vali ajab dastani shode, Kashki bezan dar ro bod alan jadidan ja kesha mizanan bad mimonan.
Ba pahpade kuchik mesle inke zadan. Hala Baz ina mikhan Saket bashan? Tekrari va khaste konande shode.
 

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این مرتیکه خر چی چی داره میگه نجنگید اگر اون بدبختا افتادن ریز یوغ طالبان بعدن افتادن دوباره به قتل عام کردنشون کاری میشه که این اسکل داره از این پیشنهادها میده؟ از نظر بنده این فتنه است، بعدا نظر خواهم داد، این مردک اصلا چیکاره هست این توصیه ها رو داره می کنه؟!

Ostad Raefipoor has been at the forefront of defending Iran and her allies against their enemies, so if there's one thing we really can't suspect him of, it's naive negligence in this regard.

Now, don't forget that various Shia Muslim groups in Afghanistan have turned against Ashraf Ghani's administration on their own initiative, way before Raefipoor expressed this opinion. Remember the recent downing of an Afghan National Army helicopter by a Shia-led organization.

Likewise, not actively siding with the Ghani administration will not necessarily invite anti-Shia terrorists activity. It's like during the Afghan liberation war against Soviet occupation: although there were shiaphobic and anti-Iranian factions among the Afgha, mojahedin, this by itself did not cause Iran to ally with the communist regime of Kabul. Instead, Iran backed other Afghan resistance factions.

More importantly, some major developments have taken place in Afghan internal politics which cannot be ignored if you wish to correctly assess Raefipoor's statement.

If you noticed, it has been several years now that by and large, terrorist killings of Shia Muslims of Afghanistan are no longer being done by the Taliban but by "I"SIS. Why do you think NATO and zionist planners had "I"SIS thugs shipped over from Syria and Iraq to Afghanistan? Because the Taliban were no longer going to do the Shia-killing job for the US and Isra"el".

In effect, the Taliban have reached out to Shia Muslim Afghans, and they even recruited some Shias. And, they do not seem to have adopted this policy as a way to counter Iran (as in trying to create an anti-Iranian current of Shias in Afghanistan), but in coordination with Tehran. What is more, "I"SIS has been attacking the Taliban as well.

You can read up on how Iran has established contacts with the Afghan Taliban and held several meetings with their representatives over the past few years, in view of being able to have a normal bilateral relationship with them in case they came to power.

In my opinion, signals sent by the Taliban that they are unwilling to function as an anti-Iran and anti-Shia force in the future is precisely the main reason why talks between Washington and the Taliban are taking so long to bear fruit: surely the US regime is conditioning its green-lighting of the Taliban participation in the Afghan government on the latter continuing their hostility towards Iran.

In parallel to this, and probably in reaction to Iran and the Taliban's efforts to try and normalize their mutual relationship, Ghani's government for its part has multiplied jabs against Iran during the past months, a well publicized example of which are his statements on the occasion of the inauguration of the Helmand river dam. See:


All this being said, I'm not advocating that Iran should lower its guard or put blind faith into any assurance given by the Taliban, considering their past record. However, Iran should keep all options open, and give them the benefit of the doubt for now, while simultaneously making sure that if they renege on their promises, Shia Afghans will be provided with all the resources they need to defend against any attempt to oppress them, and that a Taliban-led Afghanistan will not be able to compromise Iran's security if it tried to.

So, Raefipoor's comment here is in line with Iran's general policy. He's the last person who would want to expose Shia Afghans to increased risks of violence at the hands of the Taliban or any other group. His statement must be seen in the context of Iran's subtle and balanced approach to developments in Afghanistan. Then they'll make sense for sure.

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He is a nobody. A lowlife twitter troll that needs to be ignored.
Raefipoor is mostly active in the real world, not on Twitter. Also, as a matter of fact few people in Iran have defended the country as systematically as Raefipoor. Listening to a few of his speeches should provide enough evidence to that effect. Even a secular nationalist such as Omid Dana has acknowledged this.

Raefipoor's association known as Masaf is involved in many development projects, social aid programs and has even designed weapons systems for Iran's armed forces. We shouldn't be disrespectful towards a person who has served Iran more than most others.
 
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Ostad Raefipoor has been at the forefront of defending Iran and her allies against any of their enemies, so if there's one thing you can't suspect him of, it's naive negligence in this regard.

Now, don't forget that various Shia Muslim groups in Afghanistan have turned against Ashraf Ghani's administration on their own initiative, way before Raefipoor expressed this opinion. Remember the recent downing of an Afghan National Army helicopter by a Shia-led paramilitary organization?

So don't worry, Shia Afghans know what they're doing. Likewise, not actively siding with the Ghani administration does not mean lowering one's guard vis-à-vis anti-Shia sectarianist terrorists. The two aren't mutually exclusive. It's like during the Afghan liberation war against Soviet occupation: although there were shiaphobic and anti-Iranian factions among the mojahedin, this by itself did not lead Islamic Iran to ally with the communist government in Kabul. Instead, Iran backed other Afghan resistance factions.

Last not not least, some important developments have taken place in Afghan internal politics which can't be left out if one wants to correctly assess Raefipoor's statement.

If you noticed, it has been several years now that terrorist killings of Shia Muslims in Afghanistan are no longer being done by the Taliban but by "I"SIS. Why do you think NATO and zionist planners had "I"SIS thugs shipped over from Syria and Iraq to Afghanistan? Because the Taliban were no longer going to do the Shia-killing job for the US and Isra"el".

In effect, the Taliban have reached out to Shia Muslim Afghans, and even recruited some Shias. And, they do not seem to have adopted this policy against Iran (as in trying to create an anti-Iranian current of Shias in Afghanistan), but in coordination with Tehran. What is more, "I"SIS has been attacking the Taliban as well.

You can read up on how Iran has established contacts with the Afghan Taliban and held several meetings with their representatives, in view of being able to have a normal bilateral relationship with them in case they come to power. These meetings were

And in my opinion, the signs exhibited by the Taliban that they are unwilling to function as an anti-Iran and anti-Shia force in the future is precisely the main reason why talks between Washington and the Taliban are taking so long to reach a definitive conclusion: surely the US regime is conditioning its green light for participation of the Taliban in the Afghan government on the latter continuing their hostility towards Iran.

In parallel to this, and probably in reaction to Iran and the Taliban's efforts to try and normalize their mutual relationship, Ghani's government for its part has multiplied jabs against Iran over the past months, a well publicized example of which are Ghani's statements on the occasion of the inauguration of the Helmand river dam.


All this being said, I'm not advocating that Iran should lower her guard or put blind faith in any assurances given by the Taliban prior to their possible accession to power, considering their past record. However, Iran should keep options open, and give them the benefit of the doubt for now, while simultaneously making sure that if they renege on their promises, Shia Afghans will be provided with all the resources they need to defend against attempts to oppress them, and that a Taliban-led Afghanistan will not be able to compromise Iran's security.

So, Raefipoor's comment here is in line with Iran's general policy. He's the last person who would want to expose Shia Afghans to increased risks of violence at the hands of the Taliban or any other group. His statement must be seen in the context of Iran's subtle and balanced approach to developments in Afghanistan, and then they will not make sense indeed.

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Raefipoor is mostly active in the real world, not on Twitter. Also, as a matter of fact few people in Iran have defended the country as systematically as Raefipoor. Listening to a few of his speeches should provide enough evidence to that effect. Even a secular nationalist such as Omid Dana has acknowledged this.

Raefipoor's association known as Masaf is involved in many development projects, social aid programs and has even designed weapons systems for Iran's armed forces. We shouldn't be disrespectful towards a person who has served Iran more than most others.
@Cthulhu mazerat aghayun. mikhastam stryker quote konam ke eshteba shod.
 

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@Cthulhu mazerat aghayun. mikhastam stryker quote konam ke eshteba shod.
No problem, brother.

On another topic, have you noticed how mad local zionists and sectarianists in this forum have become since Raisi's election? Some of those who until now had never posted here, have even started spamming the Iranian section. Unbelievable, and so obvious at that.

Right now I'm busy debunking zionist propaganda here:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran-has-new-president.714503/

They need to team up against me, try to derail the thread and spread obvious fabrications about the Syrian war to hope standing a chance (but even then, theirs is a lost cause).
 
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No problem, brother.

On another topic, have you noticed how mad local zionists and sectarianists in this forum have become since Raisi's election? They even started spamming the Iranian section while until now, they never posted here. It's really unbelievable, and so obvious at that.

Right now I'm busy debunking zionist propaganda here:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran-has-new-president.714503/

They need to team up against me, try to derail the thread and spread obvious fabrications about the Syrian war to hope to stand a chance (but even then, theirs is a lost cause).
They know that Raisi means business. They are terrified. Btw, you are doing a good job brother. Vali yek chiz ro begam. In yaroo sammuel ro az 15 sal pish mishnasam roo irandefence boodesh ghablan. Daghighan hamintori troll mikard. In yek account az vezarat propaganda Esrail hast. Be ehtemale ziad yek shakhse vagheyi nist.
 

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