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that beofore they needed permission but to save time the decision is with highest ranking officer, who is nect to the soldiers.
I think nowhere in the world a lower rank responsible for such a AD system can make decision on their own..very dangerous.
 

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here is the video of hajizadeh where he saying that the soldier who sits in the fire control room in an air defence division doesn't need a permission to fire a AD missile (tehy don't need even permission from a higher rank officer, who is also prensence in the dame division) .he says that the soldier, who shot down the hermes drone didn't asked for permission. further he said that for the S2S missiles it's the same.

watch min 32 to 33.

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here is the video of hajizadeh where he saying that the soldier who sits in the fire control room in an air defence division doesn't need a permission to fire a AD missile (tehy don't need even permission from a higher rank officer, who is also prensence in the dame division) .he says that the soldier, who shot down the hermes drone didn't asked for permission. further he said that for the S2S missiles it's the same.

watch min 32 to 33.

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well that clears it up. he also said that we shot down a israeli hermez above natanz ? i think i missed that one.
 

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here is the video of hajizadeh where he saying that the soldier who sits in the fire control room in an air defence division doesn't need a permission to fire a AD missile (tehy don't need even permission from a higher rank officer, who is also prensence in the dame division) .he says that the soldier, who shot down the hermes drone didn't asked for permission. further he said that for the S2S missiles it's the same.

watch min 32 to 33.

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Yes, I meant to mention this last night but forgot about that. I first thought this interview was from 2019, but I think it is older than that. Hajizadeh stated that air defenses are a unique situation from other branches of military in that their reaction time is extremely limited and sensitive and immediate decisions have to made, in case contact is not possible with higher tiers, which would likely be the case in the event of a war.
Another thing to consider is that some of the IRGC systems are not integrated into the National air defense grid like the artesh Air Defense Forces are. In the situations with the rq4 and the drone over Mahshahr, the higher tiers were already warning the local systems in the area that a target was in their vicinity with the information to confront it.
 
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Yes, I meant to mention this last night but forgot about that. I haven't seen the video you posted yet, but I'm certain it's from 2019 when the rq4 was shot down and Hajizadeh stated that air defenses are a unique situation from other branches of military in that their reaction time is extremely limited and sensitive and immediate decisions have to made, in case contact is not possible with higher tiers, which would likely be the case in the event of a war.
the video is from 2016. it's about a missile drill and and about the underground missile cities.
actually this video makes me wonder what the IRGC is making in their secret programs. reason is gen. Hajizadeh saying that the silos, which where shown on tv and the tunnels where made 20-25years ago. so if that true that means they show us weapon systems which old, so question arise, what are they working on now or want weapons are ready, which is hidden from us.
it would be very interesting to start a discussion.
 

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in this video gen Hajizadeh is explain it in more detail.
defensive weapons need a permission to use but not offensive weapons.

watch min 14-16

@WudangMaster dadash i think this is the video u talking about.
 

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in this video gen Hajizadeh is explain it in more detail.
defensive weapons need a permission to use but not offensive weapons.

watch min 14-16

@WudangMaster dadash i think this is the video u talking about.
Yes it is!
This is also the only time that IRGC stated that the mq4 was technically inside Iran's airspace, but it was too close for comfort and they knocked it down after 4 warnings. All other times thereafter, the statement was that the craft was inside the airspace. Anyway, when it's that close, it is definitely fair game.
 

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here is the video of hajizadeh where he saying that the soldier who sits in the fire control room in an air defence division doesn't need a permission to fire a AD missile (tehy don't need even permission from a higher rank officer, who is also prensence in the dame division) .he says that the soldier, who shot down the hermes drone didn't asked for permission. further he said that for the S2S missiles it's the same.

watch min 32 to 33.

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isnt it the norm to co ordinate with superiors and receiving orders to proceed before taking actions? this whole process of co ordination shudnt take that long either. so i dont see it having an operational effect. then why do this?
 

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btw where is @SalarHaqq i didn'
isnt it the norm to co ordinate with superiors and receiving orders to proceed before taking actions? this whole process of co ordination shudnt take that long either. so i dont see it having an operational effect. then why do this?
i guess like @WudangMaster said it's different when it comes to AD. i don't know how long it takes to get orders, but considering the speed of an enemy fighter, which is flying to the target even 1 second is important to take it down. specialy steahlt fighters can disapear from the radar at any second, there is small time frame where they can be detected. but i guess members with more technical knowledge about AD systems can help us out.
 

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