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Iranian Air Defense Systems

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    This is propaganda at it’s finest.

    Iran doesn’t even have enough S-300’s to adequately cover Iran. But yet it’s going to risk its main air defense system and put it in Syria?

    Seriously who believes this stuff

    If iran has tolerated air strikes for nearly 8 years, it’s going to continue to tolerate it.
     
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    Iran ordered 5 S-300 battalions...not 4 and as I see most people mix this as 5 S-300 systems(s-300 system doesn't even exist as organsiation unit..)....so it is five battalions but truth is no one knows how many Iran got...order was around 850$ millions ..one battalion can be defferently configured but it should include at least 4 S-300 batteries/fire units(one battery has 4 TELs) ..s-300 can be deployed at battery level without deploying battalion in full ..we don't know what Iran ordered exactlly but order include 5 battalions..not 4
     
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    It may not be Syria with cheap drones and such and used by insurgents or terrorists, but it will be more complex version of it.



     
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    Big news: The Mersad "HAWK" system is now a fully mobile system with a new mobile missile.

    All main radar components, PAR and HPIR are now mobile.
    Plus, the big news. A new mobile launcher with a new missile to replace the MIM-23/Shahin has been developed. It is from the outside basically a smaller Sayyad-2 launcher with 6 instead of 4 missiles! Means 3 launchers have the same number of ready to fire missiles as a full HAWK battery!

    The range is probably the same as the MIM-23: 40km.

    This basically means that the Mersad project can be continued, production line kept producing.

    Thats the single biggest news of the parade.
    I wonder whether this new missile is related to the Fakkur AAM or a miniaturized Sayyad-2/3.
     
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    Fantastic news! Any pics available?
    Afaik they worked on the range of the Shalamche missile up to 60km
     
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    Nice truck systems but why is the gun manned....
    It could be the precursor to the "Iranian pantsir".
     
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    Yes its visible in Yavars video posted here.

    Meanwhile I think it is the Kamin-2 missile from april from which no photo made it to the internet back then.

    As for the flat truck for the 35mm gun: Quite much effort to develop it... The IRGC has the flat Raad truck... it i also fragile for something Pantsir like.
     
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    I can't see this 6 tubed system in the video posted by Yavar. Post a snip if possible.
     
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    Just reduced 3 containers, like Sayyad-2 launchers have nowadays just 2 containers ar parades.

    As it seems to be the Kamin-2 and was described as Mersads short range missile, something like 25km now seems a better estimate as well as its not a replacement for Shahin/Shalamcheh.
     
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    some new info announced in 31 Shahrivar parade:

    3rd khordad ADS new specifications:
    max range: 105km
    max altitue:27km
    simultaneous engagement of 4 targets with 8 missiles
    (I wonder which missile they used for 105km range)


    Tabas ADS
    max range:75km
    max altitue:27km
    simultaneous guide of 2 missiles, with 9 seconds launch intervals

    Bashir radar
    Max range:300km
    max altitude: 30km

    Matla-ul-fajr radar
    Max range: 500km
    max altitude: 32km

    Kamin is the name of a Mobile variant of Mersad ADS, and they did show it:
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    and since they said Kamin2 is a low altitude ADS, probably it doesn't include some radars.

    announcer one again reminded that Talash is missile system (not air defense system) as a complement to S-200.
     
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    That in the photo is the Ghader mobile HAWK.
    The Kamin-2 is a missile system probably 30% smaller than a Sayyad-2 and based on the Sayyad-2 family, maybe Fakkur related.

    As a low range element of the Sayyad-2 family, it certainly is guided by the radars of the Mersad system albeit it probably does not have a seeker, as this would be too expensive for such a lower tier system.

    Now the Sayyad family has following make up:

    1- Kamin-2 low range (<40km), low-mid altitude
    2- Sayyad-2 mid range (70km), high altitude
    3- Sayyad-3 long range (120km), high altitude
    4- Sayyad-4 ling range (200km), high altitude

    Looks good. Just a very long range (>300km), a SHORAD (<20km) and specialized ABM variant are lacking.
     
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