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Iran released a 10 years old picture from a monster rocket engine!

Discussion in 'Iranian Defence Forum' started by SOHEIL, Nov 15, 2019.

  1. SOHEIL

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    Solid rocket engine (most probably stage two) of Ghaem space launch vehicle :

    QuickMemo+_2019-11-15-01-26-34.png

    I will do some analysis tomorrow ... It's enormous !

    And it's where we were 10 years ago ...
     
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    https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-missiles-news-and-discussions.227673/page-230



    after 10 years slowly slowly it is getting declassified as those systems are getting obsolete and new system are been deployed.
     
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    im so hyped! :dance3:

     
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    So what's happened since then? All we've seen since is Simorgh and more Safir launches.

    This project get buried with Moghaddam?
     
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    Developing a working SLV in this size takes time ...
     
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    thats one koloft missile.
     
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    Iran the eight remembrance of Martyr IRGC aerospace chief Gen. Haj Haasan Tehrani Moghadam, Qaem solid fuel propellant ( missile, SLV )

     
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    If they had continued on with the Ghaeem project over the past 10 years today Iran would be sending multi ton com Sat to GSO, we'd have the capability to send probe's to the moon to look for ice, we'd have the capability to develop a small space station of or own in LEO with under 5 launches..... and by today Iran's space program would have been profitable and no one would be talking of absurd notions of buying space tickets to ISS from other countries!
     
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    Ghaeem is controlled by IRGC and was a black project excluded from government authority. So please don’t bring this “government stopped the project bs” if that’s what you are going to do.

    Fact is Ghaeem was probably not the final form Of the Iranian long range missile project or it might have not been successful. Sat imagery from Shahrud shows they have moved on to different/better things.

    Showing a picture from 10 years ago just proves this project is gone.

    As the attack on Saudi Arabia showed, IRGC doesn’t value space assets. So they probably don’t care too much about SLVs. They certainly weren’t gonna turn over their prize possession to the spy infested den that is Iran Space Agency.
     
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    I still think Iran needs several space assets from optical, SAR to NAV. It would be suicidal to solely rely on current means.
     
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    Even if Iran had a SLV ready tomm it would still take over a decade to get enough GPS sats in the air to make it worth while. Also in wartime every sat Iran has would be under constant cyber or even kinetic attack.

    IRGC likely knows this because they already have plans in place to attack US space assets.
     
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    Iran's space program by the most part takes advantage of rocket engines and 1st stage boosters initially developed by the MOD/IRGC and most of the engines Iran's Space Agency works on are by the most part long exhaust (compared to thrust) post boost engines for 2nd and 3rd stages.....

    The fact that Iran lost it's best rocket scientist who was also an IRGC officer during that test is basically a testament on how wrong you are about the IRGC not caring about SLV's in fact in one of the last letters written by Tehrani Moghadam to Iran's supreme leader he basically informs Iran's supreme leader of achieving SLV capability and the fact is if he had lived the Qhaeem within 3 years would have been Iran's 1st Solid Fuel SLV.
    Also, according to Hajizadeh the head of IRGC Aerospace forces, the very 1st missile project he proposed to Iran's supreme leader when he took command was of a large, long range, wide diameter missile who at that time was shut down by Iran's supreme leader so this idea that the IRGC doesn't care about SLV's is utter nonsense. Do you know how much money the IRGC could of made by just sending 1 commercial communication sat into GSO above our region alone? With the capability to reserve a few channels for it's self for military use.....

    Now why did Iran's supreme leader back away from that program? If I was to guess, I would say at that time they likely predicted that they would need to come to a JCPOA type agreement with the west so they chose to stand down on any missile program that could be perceived as an ICBM program capable of hitting U.S. soil and if the U.S. & E.U. had truly stuck to the letter of the agreement all the people that argued for having foreigners send our sat's into space instead would of had a valid argument because due to Iran's economic conditions a domestic SLV program by it's self wouldn't of been worth demolishing our entire future economy over. However, that's if and only if the west had truly stuck to the agreement but they didn't and neither the U.S. nor the EU stuck to the agreement neither under Trump nor Obama.

    As for Iran's space Agency being a den of spy's, that today is true however one of the main reason it has turned into a den of spy's is due to how the Rohani Administration restructured Iran's Space Agency into various small parts under the telecommunications ministry and that has clearly made security a nightmare.
     
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    iran now possesses spaceships/alien tech now

    regards
     
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