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there is no doubt the supply chain can be redesigned , but it take some time and also they had to redesign the boards and circuits too and that also take some time . and at the end as its the equipment for those L-Band AESA radar that were imported from S. Korea you must see if the new equipment are as efficient as the old ones.

it will be foolish to think if any order of 64 to 88 aircrafts of such a large and complex machine will just be over in a jiffy. It will take years of production to reach that number during which sources of materials can be replaced easily. Remember Russia is an experienced fighter jet maker. They know their ways around the market.
 

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it will be foolish to think if any order of 64 to 88 aircrafts of such a large and complex machine will just be over in a jiffy. It will take years of production to reach that number during which sources of materials can be replaced easily. Remember Russia is an experienced fighter jet maker. They know their ways around the market.
all the discussion is mute as right now Russia probably need all the airplane it produce for itself to fix the loss in Ukraine and nobody knew what lie in future
 

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First Israel had better jet fighters than Turkey
Than Greece gets rafale and better jet fighters than Turkey
Then Egypt gets better french and russian fighters than Turkey
And now Iran gets better jet fighters than Turkey. The old ottomans would be rolling in their graves at this stage looking at their country, economy and military.
 

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all the discussion is mute as right now Russia probably need all the airplane it produce for itself to fix the loss in Ukraine and nobody knew what lie in future

we were talking under the assumption that these planes will arrive.

If we doubt this deal will not happen then this thread should be closed.

First Israel had better jet fighters than Turkey
Than Greece gets rafale and better jet fighters than Turkey
Then Egypt gets better french and russian fighters than Turkey
And now Iran gets better jet fighters than Turkey. The old ottomans would be rolling in their graves at this stage looking at their country, economy and military.

We dont need fighter jets for that, if we are in conflict with Turkey, IRGC will fire 500 x MaRVs and ~HGVs at Turkish airbases with cluster munitions to neutralize the Turkish air arm in first mins of conflict. Geographically none country can enter eachothers main land easily.
 

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Do you still trust your Iranian propaganda? I mean you guys killed her for not wearing a hijab. Now obviously Your government will try to change the narrative like previous surgery etc. I mean you can't fool this time.
honestly , i just ask to show me the ct-scan or photos that show brain hemorrhage the ones that KSA funded media published as evidence of fx and brain hemmorhage only show brain edema and previous surgery , there was no sign of fracture in skull , just show me where ct-scan show brain hemmorhage , the chest ct that was said show air in chest cavity actually was a mediastinum view and black in it show lung tissue , not air a single cut of lung tissue that was posted there with the ct-scan showed no sign of pneumomediastinum, the photo they said shows bleeding from ear , in fact only showed shadow of the air and there was no sign of fx in tympanic bone to do such thing.

the onlyy thing i ask is show me the ct, photo or anything about Mahsa Amini that show brain hemorrhage happened and by the way I trust in judiciary medicine verdict
 

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I honestly dont even know why you would get both rafale AND su35. In my opinion the Rafale does most things better than the su35 and keeping one 4.5 gen plane is better logistically. It is omnirole too.

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Is there a Russian or Egyptian announcement to cancel the deal for Egypt? Of course, there is no. Rather, you just confirmed the completion of the deal. The story is that Egypt requested amendments. These are normal matters and were done in the past, and Egypt put an AESA radar condition within the package of amendments.

The real Iranian statements are clear and not the comments of some, which is the study of buying the Sukhoi 35 and not the Sukhoi 30, and the story that it will be in service in 2023 is fabricated, unless Iran signed the deal more than a year ago, because simply contracting the fighter requires sub-contracts for the components to be implemented and it takes months to provide the components that enter the assembly line accordingly fake history

There is no real deal even because only rumors are intended for other things

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Komandant RV Irana kaze da je kupovina Su-35 u opciji
Citat:Командующий ВВС Ирана, бригадный генерал Хамид Вахеди заявил, что покупка у России истребителей Су-35 стоит на повестке дня.

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The commander of the RV of Iran says that the purchase of the Su-35 is an option


The commander of the Iranian Air Force, Brigadier General Hamid Vahedi, said that the purchase of Su-35 fighters from Russia is on the agenda.

He also stated that the purchase of Su-30SM fighters is not considered in favor of the acquisition of Su-35: "This issue is on the agenda, and hopefully we will be able to get these 4++ generation fighters in the future."

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Explanation points

Egypt contracted the Rafale on the F-3R version, although it was not ready in the production lines, and the delivery began before the completion of the processing and development of this version.
And it is done after delivery, even after reviewing the required developments on RAFALE aircraft

The MIG-29M/M2 deal took place in 2015 and included the delivery, development and supply of weapons until 2020, but also included Egypt's request for the ZHUK-AE radar as soon as it was ready according to the required and pre-defined specifications
Thus, during delivery, there were planes for the process of integrating new weapons into them, with testing after modifications to be incorporated later

Since the prices of the fighters are astronomical, Egypt has demanded from the beginning the planes equipped with the best and latest equipment available for other reasons related to the fact that the programs to modernize the fighters are very expensive. We give an example of the cost of developing the MIRAGE-2000 plane, which reached 40 million dollars, which made Egypt reject the French modernization and headed for a simple electronic update with Italy, preferring Buying modern planes instead of spending a billion dollars on developing a fighter squadron, for example

The SU-35 fighters are very important to Egypt, and it did not abandon them, and Egypt did not contract the EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON aircraft in the first place, and Egypt did not turn to any other fighter as a substitute for it.

The Russian FIGHTER came with a bundle of ammunition that the Western countries did not provide to Egypt

Any alternative to Russian SU-35 will be several times higher, so who will bear the cost?

30 SU-35 WITH 3 BILLIONS INCLUDE HUGE NUMBER OF AIR TO AIR AND AIR TO GROUND/SEA MISSILES

RAFALE 30 COST 4.5 BILLION WITHOUT MISSILE AND It requires $2 billion for munitions





LCAs are classified as LIFT trainers and light fighters and are not a Multirole fighter and therefore not a replacement for a fighter like the MIG-35/RAFALE.
But it is suitable for multiple tasks within its field of work and its short range. Simply, Egypt still needs to replace the aging F-16 fighters and the MIRAGE-2000 squadron that Egypt received in the eighties.

Global situation do not mean that the Russians will leave the arms market despite the sanctions. Until this moment, the West is imposing sanctions and its impact is bad and adverse on the West and good on the Russian economy. There was an agreement between America and Russia to break Europe
And everyone arranges payment methods for new purchases of Russian weapons
The countries that abandoned deals with Russia faced armament disasters later, for example, Andonesia did not have enough money to buy 6 RAFALE planes, did not contract for F-15 planes, and did not get the SU-35, which is a vivid example of

The Philippines canceled a deal that flew a Mi-17 helicopter at a price of 14-20 million dollars a plane, flew to buy UH-60s at a price of 40-60 million dollars a plane and waited years for delivery
That is, very simply, the party that does not complete the deal is a loser in all respects
We give another article. The Turks obeyed the West and stopped completing the FD-2000 deal for Chinese air defense missiles at a price of 4 billion dollars for 12 batteries, Turkish manufacture of jewelry and technology transfer.
The West manipulated Petrica and refused to supply PATRIOT & SAMP-T, and the Russians were forced to buy 4 batteries at a price of 2,500 million dollars from the S-400 model, meaning that the cost of 12 batteries would be 7.5 billion dollars, and the Russians did not agree to any technical transfer of the S-400 system
The result is that we are approaching the end of 2022. The Turks got 4 S-400 batteries instead of 12. Turkey is negotiating to sign a contract for 2 extra batteries. Delivery within two or three years. If the Turks had completed their contract with the Chinese, they would have now received 12 batteries by transferring local production technology, and perhaps even Attempts to export to other countries

Egypt rejected the American offers, whether to sell the MIG-29M, whether to abandon the SU-35, and consequently, there was no agreement or even alternatives on the part of America.

I do not consider in the world, whether Egypt, America or the Gulf, that Egypt concede the SU-35 planes to be obtained by Iran, and Iran is a source of threat to the Arab Gulf and expands through its arms in Iraq, Yemen and Lebanon occupied by Iran. It has relations with Russia that are greater than some give up, and it is the one who pressures and agrees with the Russians not to supply any advanced weapons to Iran, as it has invested in astronomical numbers and the sale of Russian oil and gold through the Gulf countries is unknown to some and the two parties invest between the two parties. Let us explain an example of why the Emirates is investing in the SU-75 project simply To prevent it from reaching Iran at all
As a result of the Gulf money, Iran has not been able to obtain any fighter from Russia or China during the past twenty years.

The Russians announced that in 2027 they would stop production of the SU-35 fighter because they were developing production lines to expand the production of the two SU-57/75 fighters. Therefore, if the Russians provided Iran with a plane such as the SU-35, it would be after other countries obtained the SU-57, SU-75 fighters.
There are sensitive balances, which is Iran's position with its air force for at least ten years away from the weapons of the Gulf States

There is information on the Russians' dissatisfaction with the Iranian UAVS, of which the first batch was delivered

The Russians themselves have an industrial alliance with China and India to provide through joint investments in electronics and avionics for civil and military aircraft and the requirements for weapons of semiconductors

The last point is countries such as America and Russia transferring technology, but with very huge deals. There are no prohibitions, but at an astronomical cost, such as the value of the deal of 84 F-15SA planes to Saudi Arabia, which was sold at the time at 3 times the price of the F-15 plane, with a partial technology transfer.
The middle European countries, India, South Africa, and to some extent South Korea and Japan transfer technology at a lower cost and in a wider manner.


On the other hand, in Iran, the Revolutionary Guard during 40 years has refused to develop the Iranian Air Force for fear that it will use weapons against it and the current regime. Therefore, Iran has never been interested in developing its air force. Iran The Revolutionary Guards must be strong, dominant, and even stronger than the Iranian army itself, and this is the reason why it has not reached Iran's modern technologies and weapons are not only sanctions or technology bans from the West, but internal factors in Iran prevent development

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But saar Iran very big threat to Israel and USA saaar
 

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I honestly dont even know why you would get both rafale AND su35. In my opinion the Rafale does most things better than the su35 and keeping one 4.5 gen plane is better logistically. It is omnirole too.


But saar Iran very big threat to Israel and USA saaar

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Egypt had a very large weapon in the eighties and nineties

It owned 476 MIG-21 aircraft, 150 F-7, 90 F-6, 35 F-4E, 100-192 F-16, 112 MIRAGE-5, 20 MIRAGE-2000.

Egypt obtained an undeclared US arms embargo on Egypt's purchase of 100 F-16 BLOCK 52 or 60 F-16 BLOCK-60 aircraft

In the period between 2007-2012, plans were drawn up to develop the aircraft factory and requested an offer to produce fighters. The selection and manufacturing operations were supposed to start in 2012, as the manufacturing process for any fighter depended on the great needs of the Air Force to replace old models.

With the events of 2011
The money stored for the military industry and for the production of equipment, fighters were purchased directly from Russia and France, and any local manufacturing operations were ignored.
Of course, Egypt cannot buy fighters in large numbers without local manufacture as a result of the high cost in light of the inefficiency of the state administration in developing the economy in a real way due to poor performance and corruption.
Subsequently
Egypt has interests in the Gulf and faces Iranian threats and Iranian ambitions
Egypt is facing Turkish ambitions, whether in the Arab countries or the eastern Mediterranean, until the current Turkish regime is toppled

Egypt will inevitably carry out strikes against the Ethiopian dam. It is in the process of softening the Ethiopian state to spread the civil war to destroy it economically and then work to break it up and then hit the dams to cut off the water so that there will be no state that threatens Egypt in the future and be a model for any African country trying to cut off the Nile water from Egypt

The historical enemy, first of all, Israel, Egypt must possess deterrent capabilities that make it not think of any attack

Egypt does not have an aircraft industry, which forces it to buy fighters from multiple sources with the multiplicity of sources of threat that reached until the Turkish occupation of some Libyan lands in their alliance with the gangs in western Libya

All this requires Egypt to build a strong air force, so plans to obtain 72-100 Rafale balls, along with 60 Sukhoi 35 aircraft, and then move to the fifth generation fighters.
It is essential for Egypt, as it provides a deterrent model for various hostilities
And also the ability to strike to the largest ranges of the region with a large number of fighters at one time

Egypt relies on a delicate armament balance, as it is currently expanding in drones in cooperation with South Korea, China, Russia, Belarus and Serbia to produce high-performance aircraft in good quantities, as the Egyptian program exceeds 20 drones of different models

Egypt took advantage of the state of tension with the United States to invest heavily in ballistic missiles with countries such as China and obtain subsidiary technologies from Europe, an article on purchases of major weapons from them

And the Egyptian vision succeeds in this direction by owning missiles with a range of 2500 km with a powerful weapon that provides protection for the Egyptian military capabilities.
And the protection of the interests of the Samaria with the multiplicity of destructive capabilities of the various hostilities
All these things basically made Egypt get more fighters

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Egypt wants to replace at least 120 J-7/MIG-21 aircraft stored in reserve with an upgraded version of the LCA MK1A.
Next to 52 MIG-29M
And you want to replace the MIRAGE-5 planes with the RAFALE planes
Replacing the F-4 with the SU-35, which is intended to work against the enemy AWACS and TANKR aircraft, and to provide air protection for the F-16/MIRAGE-2000 aircraft.

The process of replacing 42 F-16 BLOCK 15, 40 BLOCK-32 and 20 MIRAGE-2000 aircraft will be SU-57/J-20 fifth generation fighters or the lighter FC-35/SU-75 aircraft. The blockade of Russia will not last more than a year because the Russians They themselves will escalate against the West to break any siege on them, or escalate it to a nuclear war, which will make the Russians' return to the arms markets largely inevitable after their development of weapons because of the ruins of the war against Ukraine.

Which countries have developed the air force at the level of threats? Here is pressure on the Egyptian Air Force due to the collapse of the air weapons of Iraq, Libya and Syria, which represented support for Egypt.

To deter Egypt from the threats of the Nile Basin countries against the policy of selling water and cutting off the Nile water against Egypt to thirst and weaken it, it is imperative for Egypt to own the SU-35 & TANKR to carry out selective strikes against these countries in case of need.
The Al-Marri Air Force is causing a state of terror for Turkey, which prevents it from thinking of any aggressive policies. Rather, it is what stopped the Turkish extension outside the areas of Al-Qira in western Libya, which suffers from terrorism and poverty for a country that can produce 3 million barrels and a population of not more than 7 million, in addition to the other wealth of Libya, which did not benefit. Turkey only sells its goods to the Libyan market and spreads its easy-to-destruct weapons in Libya

The perfect size for the Egyptian Air Force
500 fighters
200 advanced training aircraft that can carry out light attack operations and clear airspace from two drones
300 light UCAV aircraft
( 200 WING LOONG 1-D/CH-4B/X AND 100 CH-5 VARINET VARUABTS )
100 Low Cost Attritable Strike UCAV FH-97/CATS aircraft
100 ROYAL WINGMAJ DARK SWARD/KUS--LW

Egypt still has an opportunity to produce aircraft such as the KC-390 to be used as a diverse platform from transport to tankers to UCAV aircraft carriers and cruise missiles in large quantities to carry out the tasks of suppressing threats, as well as objects such as the SU-35/RAFALE
Simply the nature of the threats and hostilities in front of Samar is what compels Egypt to develop a strong air force to perform as a deterrent to the ambitions of countries outside the region and to support friendly countries

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Egypt had a very large weapon in the eighties and nineties

It owned 476 MIG-21 aircraft, 150 F-7, 90 F-6, 35 F-4E, 100-192 F-16, 112 MIRAGE-5, 20 MIRAGE-2000.

Egypt obtained an undeclared US arms embargo on Egypt's purchase of 100 F-16 BLOCK 52 or 60 F-16 BLOCK-60 aircraft

In the period between 2007-2012, plans were drawn up to develop the aircraft factory and requested an offer to produce fighters. The selection and manufacturing operations were supposed to start in 2012, as the manufacturing process for any fighter depended on the great needs of the Air Force to replace old models.

With the events of 2011
The money stored for the military industry and for the production of equipment, fighters were purchased directly from Russia and France, and any local manufacturing operations were ignored.
Of course, Egypt cannot buy fighters in large numbers without local manufacture as a result of the high cost in light of the inefficiency of the state administration in developing the economy in a real way due to poor performance and corruption.
Subsequently
Egypt has interests in the Gulf and faces Iranian threats and Iranian ambitions
Egypt is facing Turkish ambitions, whether in the Arab countries or the eastern Mediterranean, until the current Turkish regime is toppled

Egypt will inevitably carry out strikes against the Ethiopian dam. It is in the process of softening the Ethiopian state to spread the civil war to destroy it economically and then work to break it up and then hit the dams to cut off the water so that there will be no state that threatens Egypt in the future and be a model for any African country trying to cut off the Nile water from Egypt

The historical enemy, first of all, Israel, Egypt must possess deterrent capabilities that make it not think of any attack

Egypt does not have an aircraft industry, which forces it to buy fighters from multiple sources with the multiplicity of sources of threat that reached until the Turkish occupation of some Libyan lands in their alliance with the gangs in western Libya

All this requires Egypt to build a strong air force, so plans to obtain 72-100 Rafale balls, along with 60 Sukhoi 35 aircraft, and then move to the fifth generation fighters.
It is essential for Egypt, as it provides a deterrent model for various hostilities
And also the ability to strike to the largest ranges of the region with a large number of fighters at one time

Egypt relies on a delicate armament balance, as it is currently expanding in drones in cooperation with South Korea, China, Russia, Belarus and Serbia to produce high-performance aircraft in good quantities, as the Egyptian program exceeds 20 drones of different models

Egypt took advantage of the state of tension with the United States to invest heavily in ballistic missiles with countries such as China and obtain subsidiary technologies from Europe, an article on purchases of major weapons from them

And the Egyptian vision succeeds in this direction by owning missiles with a range of 2500 km with a powerful weapon that provides protection for the Egyptian military capabilities.
And the protection of the interests of the Samaria with the multiplicity of destructive capabilities of the various hostilities
All these things basically made Egypt get more fighters

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Egypt wants to replace at least 120 J-7/MIG-21 aircraft stored in reserve with an upgraded version of the LCA MK1A.
Next to 52 MIG-29M
And you want to replace the MIRAGE-5 planes with the RAFALE planes
Replacing the F-4 with the SU-35, which is intended to work against the enemy AWACS and TANKR aircraft, and to provide air protection for the F-16/MIRAGE-2000 aircraft.

The process of replacing 42 F-16 BLOCK 15, 40 BLOCK-32 and 20 MIRAGE-2000 aircraft will be SU-57/J-20 fifth generation fighters or the lighter FC-35/SU-75 aircraft. The blockade of Russia will not last more than a year because the Russians They themselves will escalate against the West to break any siege on them, or escalate it to a nuclear war, which will make the Russians' return to the arms markets largely inevitable after their development of weapons because of the ruins of the war against Ukraine.

Which countries have developed the air force at the level of threats? Here is pressure on the Egyptian Air Force due to the collapse of the air weapons of Iraq, Libya and Syria, which represented support for Egypt.

To deter Egypt from the threats of the Nile Basin countries against the policy of selling water and cutting off the Nile water against Egypt to thirst and weaken it, it is imperative for Egypt to own the SU-35 & TANKR to carry out selective strikes against these countries in case of need.
The Al-Marri Air Force is causing a state of terror for Turkey, which prevents it from thinking of any aggressive policies. Rather, it is what stopped the Turkish extension outside the areas of Al-Qira in western Libya, which suffers from terrorism and poverty for a country that can produce 3 million barrels and a population of not more than 7 million, in addition to the other wealth of Libya, which did not benefit. Turkey only sells its goods to the Libyan market and spreads its easy-to-destruct weapons in Libya

The perfect size for the Egyptian Air Force
500 fighters
200 advanced training aircraft that can carry out light attack operations and clear airspace from two drones
300 light UCAV aircraft
( 200 WING LOONG 1-D/CH-4B/X AND 100 CH-5 VARINET VARUABTS )
100 Low Cost Attritable Strike UCAV FH-97/CATS aircraft
100 ROYAL WINGMAJ DARK SWARD/KUS--LW

Egypt still has an opportunity to produce aircraft such as the KC-390 to be used as a diverse platform from transport to tankers to UCAV aircraft carriers and cruise missiles in large quantities to carry out the tasks of suppressing threats, as well as objects such as the SU-35/RAFALE
Simply the nature of the threats and hostilities in front of Samar is what compels Egypt to develop a strong air force to perform as a deterrent to the ambitions of countries outside the region and to support friendly countries

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The weapons and aircraft you're buying are only going to be used in a future civil war (with international spillover into libya and sub-saharan africa).
 

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Egypt had a very large weapon in the eighties and nineties

It owned 476 MIG-21 aircraft, 150 F-7, 90 F-6, 35 F-4E, 100-192 F-16, 112 MIRAGE-5, 20 MIRAGE-2000.

Egypt obtained an undeclared US arms embargo on Egypt's purchase of 100 F-16 BLOCK 52 or 60 F-16 BLOCK-60 aircraft

In the period between 2007-2012, plans were drawn up to develop the aircraft factory and requested an offer to produce fighters. The selection and manufacturing operations were supposed to start in 2012, as the manufacturing process for any fighter depended on the great needs of the Air Force to replace old models.

With the events of 2011
The money stored for the military industry and for the production of equipment, fighters were purchased directly from Russia and France, and any local manufacturing operations were ignored.
Of course, Egypt cannot buy fighters in large numbers without local manufacture as a result of the high cost in light of the inefficiency of the state administration in developing the economy in a real way due to poor performance and corruption.
Subsequently
Egypt has interests in the Gulf and faces Iranian threats and Iranian ambitions
Egypt is facing Turkish ambitions, whether in the Arab countries or the eastern Mediterranean, until the current Turkish regime is toppled

Egypt will inevitably carry out strikes against the Ethiopian dam. It is in the process of softening the Ethiopian state to spread the civil war to destroy it economically and then work to break it up and then hit the dams to cut off the water so that there will be no state that threatens Egypt in the future and be a model for any African country trying to cut off the Nile water from Egypt

The historical enemy, first of all, Israel, Egypt must possess deterrent capabilities that make it not think of any attack

Egypt does not have an aircraft industry, which forces it to buy fighters from multiple sources with the multiplicity of sources of threat that reached until the Turkish occupation of some Libyan lands in their alliance with the gangs in western Libya

All this requires Egypt to build a strong air force, so plans to obtain 72-100 Rafale balls, along with 60 Sukhoi 35 aircraft, and then move to the fifth generation fighters.
It is essential for Egypt, as it provides a deterrent model for various hostilities
And also the ability to strike to the largest ranges of the region with a large number of fighters at one time

Egypt relies on a delicate armament balance, as it is currently expanding in drones in cooperation with South Korea, China, Russia, Belarus and Serbia to produce high-performance aircraft in good quantities, as the Egyptian program exceeds 20 drones of different models

Egypt took advantage of the state of tension with the United States to invest heavily in ballistic missiles with countries such as China and obtain subsidiary technologies from Europe, an article on purchases of major weapons from them

And the Egyptian vision succeeds in this direction by owning missiles with a range of 2500 km with a powerful weapon that provides protection for the Egyptian military capabilities.
And the protection of the interests of the Samaria with the multiplicity of destructive capabilities of the various hostilities
All these things basically made Egypt get more fighters

View attachment 883937

Egypt wants to replace at least 120 J-7/MIG-21 aircraft stored in reserve with an upgraded version of the LCA MK1A.
Next to 52 MIG-29M
And you want to replace the MIRAGE-5 planes with the RAFALE planes
Replacing the F-4 with the SU-35, which is intended to work against the enemy AWACS and TANKR aircraft, and to provide air protection for the F-16/MIRAGE-2000 aircraft.

The process of replacing 42 F-16 BLOCK 15, 40 BLOCK-32 and 20 MIRAGE-2000 aircraft will be SU-57/J-20 fifth generation fighters or the lighter FC-35/SU-75 aircraft. The blockade of Russia will not last more than a year because the Russians They themselves will escalate against the West to break any siege on them, or escalate it to a nuclear war, which will make the Russians' return to the arms markets largely inevitable after their development of weapons because of the ruins of the war against Ukraine.

Which countries have developed the air force at the level of threats? Here is pressure on the Egyptian Air Force due to the collapse of the air weapons of Iraq, Libya and Syria, which represented support for Egypt.

To deter Egypt from the threats of the Nile Basin countries against the policy of selling water and cutting off the Nile water against Egypt to thirst and weaken it, it is imperative for Egypt to own the SU-35 & TANKR to carry out selective strikes against these countries in case of need.
The Al-Marri Air Force is causing a state of terror for Turkey, which prevents it from thinking of any aggressive policies. Rather, it is what stopped the Turkish extension outside the areas of Al-Qira in western Libya, which suffers from terrorism and poverty for a country that can produce 3 million barrels and a population of not more than 7 million, in addition to the other wealth of Libya, which did not benefit. Turkey only sells its goods to the Libyan market and spreads its easy-to-destruct weapons in Libya

The perfect size for the Egyptian Air Force
500 fighters
200 advanced training aircraft that can carry out light attack operations and clear airspace from two drones
300 light UCAV aircraft
( 200 WING LOONG 1-D/CH-4B/X AND 100 CH-5 VARINET VARUABTS )
100 Low Cost Attritable Strike UCAV FH-97/CATS aircraft
100 ROYAL WINGMAJ DARK SWARD/KUS--LW

Egypt still has an opportunity to produce aircraft such as the KC-390 to be used as a diverse platform from transport to tankers to UCAV aircraft carriers and cruise missiles in large quantities to carry out the tasks of suppressing threats, as well as objects such as the SU-35/RAFALE
Simply the nature of the threats and hostilities in front of Samar is what compels Egypt to develop a strong air force to perform as a deterrent to the ambitions of countries outside the region and to support friendly countries

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Egypt can have all she wants,
it doesn't matter,
their leadership is compromised much like Pakistan.
 

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Let's see only time will tell us. But will Russia be able to build new ones with the ongoing war, sanctions etc... Plus South Korea stopped giving important parts for Russia (I think it was the electronic chips).
South Korea stopped selling GaAs unit to Russia which is used by Russia AESA radar.
People here has over-exaggerated Russia-China relationship. We actually absorbed evergything that we can learn from Russia but they are the opposite.
One example is in their movement of localization after 2014 sanction by the west, many russian companies bought foreign machine to make up local made machine. For German one, their law enforcement agency were blind to it, but for Chinese one, it would be heavily fined.
I think this may be because Russia needs to set up the image that they are superior to China to other customer, expecially India, so they did not buy any high tech things from China. This may explain why they prefer to buying AsGa from South Korea when almost all of our radar for export in last Zhuhai Airshow has been changed to GaN. And they have lost the opportunity to introduce an advanced drone production line from China before the war with Ukraine, which has made them difficult to deal with Ukraine HIMAS.
As to the Su-35, the version for Iran may be down-graded to the Su-30SM used by Russia itself for the electronics part, as Russia said Su-30SM had used the local made component(if it is true).
 

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South Korea stopped selling GaAs unit to Russia which is used by Russia AESA radar.
People here has over-exaggerated Russia-China relationship. We actually absorbed evergything that we can learn from Russia but they are the opposite.
One example is in their movement of localization after 2014 sanction by the west, many russian companies bought foreign machine to make up local made machine. For German one, their law enforcement agency were blind to it, but for Chinese one, it would be heavily fined.
I think this may be because Russia needs to set up the image that they are superior to China to other customer, expecially India, so they did not buy any high tech things from China. This may explain why they prefer to buying AsGa from South Korea when almost all of our radar for export in last Zhuhai Airshow has been changed to GaN. And they have lost the opportunity to introduce an advanced drone production line from China before the war with Ukraine, which has made them difficult to deal with Ukraine HIMAS.
As to the Su-35, the version for Iran may be down-graded to the Su-30SM used by Russia itself for the electronics part, as Russia said Su-30SM had used the local made component(if it is true).
That's why I said in another thread, if Russia can't supply the AESA radars for our MIG-29M/M2 then we can get those from China which you are getting experience thus developing it with advanced techs or to buy from Italy (Leonardo).
 

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That's why I said in another thread, if Russia can't supply the AESA radars for our MIG-29M/M2 then we can get those from China which you are getting experience thus developing it with advanced techs or to buy from Italy (Leonardo).
I think Russia will not agree and open the interface for other radar. It is possible for us to crack Su-27/30/35, but not Mig-29 as we are not familiar with it.
 

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