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Those SU-35s should never be used against Pakistan otherwise results will be not suitable for Iranian revolutionary kids. Iran actually threatened the Pak army in February, just before IAF destruction on Feb 27. I don't trust Iran. Iran has secret relations with India. I hope Iran will not sacrifice itself for India. Anyway, good luck with these toys but keep these stupid toys away from the Pakistani border.
I think you mis-understood what he said lol
 

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Hello revolutionary kid hahaha.

You have secret relations with zionist Saudi regime and in past with terrorist taliban and still with big Satan (US regime) so these things what you're mentioning are nonsense. Your arab friends are biggest friends of India.

Instead of building pipelines and doing trade you're trying to repeat poisonous nonsense to divide our countries.
we have relations with everyone. you have secret relations with United states but in your streets, you chant Death to America. A pipeline full of sanctions? forget pipeline and keep those su-35 away from our border.
 

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I didnt mean use it against Pakistan, but against terrorists whom both Pakistan and Iran have issues with...unless of course youre a terrorist sympathiser and think that Balochi terrorists are synonymous with the Pakistani government? Who cares who you trust, do you think we trust you after Feb 27 where Iran acknowledged your secret service and corrupt ziopig government is funding and harbouring terrorists? you had a weak president in Rouhani then but now Pakistan knows the Raeesi government will act decisively, so maybe thats why your secret service has asked the Balochis terrorists to tone it down?!

Either way Iran doesnt fear Pakistan in any way, but also don't want friendship to have to be put aside for sake of national security. None of your business who Iran has open ties with, no secret that Iran trades with India...we could easily question your relations with US and link it with the terrorists at our border. If we have to put our hands on terrorists on your lands then we have every Islamic right to defend ourselves with su-35s or anything else for that matter.
I know Iran much better than you. Iran has successfully established its terrorist network in Pakistan. You shouldn't blame Pakistan for your stupid war with Arabs. Pakistan doesn't fear Iran as well. Pakistan will rip you apart if you ever dare to cross the border for any raid. Thank you for accepting above that you have plans to raid us. I know all this since day one. What Iran lacks today are fighter jets. I don't trust Iran. you guys are bad people who portray themselves as cool people. You are facing sanctions for a long time and there is a reason for that. Pakistan can cross border too. Keep this in your mind. I don't care about raesi or other kids. If you hit us, we will destroy you. There will be nothing left. GBU-16s ready. hahaha
 
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I know Iran much better than you. Iran has successfully established its terrorist network in Pakistan. You shouldn't blame Pakistan for your stupid war with Arabs. Pakistan doesn't fear Iran as well. Pakistan will rip you apart if you ever dare to cross the border for any raid. Thank you for accepting above that you have plans to raid us. I know all this since day one. What Iran lacks today are fighter jets. I don't trust Iran. you guys are bad people who portray themselves as cool people. You are facing sanctions for a long time and there is a reason for that. Pakistan can cross border too. Keep this in your mind. I don't care about raesi or other kids. If you hit us, we will destroy you. There will be nothing left. GBU-16s ready. hahaha

You know nothing about Iran lol! To be honest you dont know much about Pakistan either! You are another Hindutva troll in on the act. You Hindutva work with Balochi terrorists to cause discord between Iran and Pakistan. Our war with Arabs is a war of defence against a tribalist and Liberal globalists group of Arabs who are working to please the wesf! However, if Pakistan is seen to be aiding terrorist with Arab involvement then of course you would be part of the problem. If Pakistan could invade Iran surely it would have and other than nukes there isnt much that Iran is worried about. And it is talk like this that gives Iran the casus belli to build nukes, once Iran gets her nukes then you wont come here with your fake chest beating. I think Iran and Pakistan have agreed to work together to take out Balochi terrorists, however it takes. Your masters US do enough raids in your lands, why cant we? Lol and Pakistan is where it is today because it has US embassy or because of corruption no matter what! The potential of Iran compared to Pakistan is of no match. And of course Iran will do what it takes to take out terrorist scum and Pakistan will support us! Stop being a breeding ground for terror and quit the child grooming! Please send your crappy F-16s so we can showcase them in our museums in pieces lol
 
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I know Iran much better than you. Iran has successfully established its terrorist network in Pakistan. You shouldn't blame Pakistan for your stupid war with Arabs. Pakistan doesn't fear Iran as well. Pakistan will rip you apart if you ever dare to cross the border for any raid. Thank you for accepting above that you have plans to raid us. I know all this since day one. What Iran lacks today are fighter jets. I don't trust Iran. you guys are bad people who portray themselves as cool people. You are facing sanctions for a long time and there is a reason for that. Pakistan can cross border too. Keep this in your mind. I don't care about raesi or other kids. If you hit us, we will destroy you. There will be nothing left. GBU-16s ready. hahaha
try to act more natural!
 

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we have relations with everyone. you have secret relations with United states but in your streets, you chant Death to America. A pipeline full of sanctions? forget pipeline and keep those su-35 away from our border.
Absolutely sir you got it, I will notify Rahbar right away that Pakistan defense user Arsalan345 demanded they keep their non-existent Su-35s away from Pakistan. I'm sure he will comply, he is a reasonable man.
 

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You know nothing about Iran lol! To be honest you dont know much about Pakistan either! You are another Hindutva troll in on the act. You Hindutva work with Balochi terrorists to cause discord between Iran and Pakistan. Our war with Arabs is a war of defence against a tribalist and Liberal globalists group of Arabs who are working to please the wesf! However, if Pakistan is seen to be aiding terrorist with Arab involvement then of course you would be part of the problem. If Pakistan could invade Iran surely it would have and other than nukes there isnt much that Iran is worried about. And it is talk like this that gives Iran the casus belli to build nukes, once Iran gets her nukes then you wont come here with your fake chest beating. I think Iran and Pakistan have agreed to work together to take out Balochi terrorists, however it takes. Your masters US do enough raids in your lands, why cant we? Lol and Pakistan is where it is today because it has US embassy or because of corruption no matter what! The potential of Iran compared to Pakistan is of no match. And of course Iran will do what it takes to take out terrorist scum and Pakistan will support us! Stop being a breeding ground for terror and quit the child grooming! Please send your crappy F-16s so we can showcase them in our museums in pieces lol
Our war with arabs is a war of defence? hahaha lol. Terrorist Iran preaching to others lol.

try to act more natural!
I am sorry but Pakistan is my country. I don't care about Muslim brotherhood drama anymore. Country comes first.

Absolutely sir you got it, I will notify Rahbar right away that Pakistan defense user Arsalan345 demanded they keep their non-existent Su-35s away from Pakistan. I'm sure he will comply, he is a reasonable man.
Rahbar? who is rahbar lol.
 
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Our war with arabs is a war of defence? hahaha lol. Terrorist Iran preaching to others lol.

Are Daesh Iranian? Are Al Qaeda Iranian? Are the white helmets Iranian? Iran has had to DEFEND against all of these Arab khariji groups who happen to have Arab roots, as well as roots deep in Washington, London, Ankara and Tel Aviv. Iran has only been labelled "terrorist" by the terrorists themselves after Iran wiped the floor with them over the past 40 years! Cope
 

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Are Daesh Iranian? Are Al Qaeda Iranian? Are the white helmets Iranian? Iran has had to DEFEND against all of these Arab khariji groups who happen to have Arab roots, as well as roots deep in Washington, London, Ankara and Tel Aviv. Iran has only been labelled "terrorist" by the terrorists themselves after Iran wiped the floor with them over the past 40 years! Cope
So what Pakistan can do in this stupid war? Go and destroy kabul. Fight against Saudia. Who cares? Don't establish your organizations in Pakistan. I am worried because Iran has threatened Pakistan before and I know you can threaten us again. We aren't stupid arabs. We aren't Israel and we aren't Americans or Afghani.
 

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this is about the 100th time im hearing of Iranian purchase of Russian aircraft in the past 20 years~

I will only believe it once the planes have landed in Iran.

With that said, a modest 64 su-35 would be an excellent upgrade for the Iranian air force. IT will replace aging jets, They can be used for intercepting and escorting unknown/hostile aircraft.

This does nothing to upset Irans assymetric doctrine.

an example of how they can be used?

There was a prominent incident where an american aircraft decided to cut thru the Iran shortcut when leaving afghanistan into the middle east. Iranian air defence intercepted that plane, and forced it to leave with a threat of shooting it down. A su-35 could have easily escorted that plane out.

another good role would be when IRan captured those coward US navy sailors and put them on their knees for tresspassing into IRanian territory. during the first few tense moments, a few f-18s were scrambled to the area by the americans. And there was a hostile exchange between them and IRanian air defence. which warned them to leave the area immidiatly or get shot down.

su-35s could have performed both of those roles much better. 64 su-35s would be perfect for Iranian needs.
A F-14 escorting a USAF aircraft out of friendly airspace would have been more spectacular. Having said that, what HMD, missiles, net centric set up, AWACs, tanker , data links, pods etc will be operational with SU-35 ?
 
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So what Pakistan can do in this stupid war? Go and destroy kabul. Fight against Saudia. Who cares? Don't establish your organizations in Pakistan. I am worried because Iran has threatened Pakistan before and I know you can threaten us again. We aren't stupid arabs. We aren't Israel and we aren't Americans or Afghani.

No, youre Pakistanis. The topic is Balochi terrorists operating from your border. That is a Pakistani problem that Iran has to deal with. We're only threatening terrorists which is why Pakistan wants to work with us but the Arabs and Uncle Sam have tied their hands. It's all relevant.
 

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This is a good buy from the Iranians, there was a time that PAF wanted
Su 35s from Russia or maybe that was an attempt to force U.S to sell F16's.
 

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the money can be better spent on domestic programs which will give more long term success

Iran does not have this historical record of big arms deals so I doubt this news, only Arabs do this

even if true then Russia should be adding he discount
 

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the money can be better spent on domestic programs which will give more long term success

Iran does not have this historical record of big arms deals so I doubt this news, only Arabs do this

even if true then Russia should be adding he discount

More political than military. This is a HUGE RCS attack aircraft with lower BVR capabilities than our F-14AM upgrade program so it's not strengthening IRIAF's interception capabilities. Its radar and BVR package with IRBIS-E PESA radar and R-77-1 means it can track and launch BVR towards a Rafale or EF-2000 sized fighter from ~100-110 KM. Its an OK package for interception.

Flanker family is built for multirole jobs with heavy attack and decent self defence. Nothing beyond.

It has no competition with local light fighters like the below one. both will go on simulatneously

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hesa-fighter-kowsar-program-current-and-next-generation.743327/
 
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No, youre Pakistanis. The topic is Balochi terrorists operating from your border. That is a Pakistani problem that Iran has to deal with. We're only threatening terrorists which is why Pakistan wants to work with us but the Arabs and Uncle Sam have tied their hands. It's all relevant.
Our problem is Iranian terrorists hiding in Tehran who have established the Zainabun brigade in Pakistan. It involves people from your secret service as well. We are ready to work with you too.
 

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