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Iran buys 24 Sukhoi Su-35 Flanker-E fighters produced for Egypt

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It is nice from you to let us know that you did not read the article.

Leave the troll, he didnt read my evidence either. He has commited false equivocation, appeal to ignorance and appeal of composition with regards to US marketing of their electronic systems. Illogical people need duah more than refuting
 

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this is about the 100th time im hearing of Iranian purchase of Russian aircraft in the past 20 years~

I will only believe it once the planes have landed in Iran.

With that said, a modest 64 su-35 would be an excellent upgrade for the Iranian air force. IT will replace aging jets, They can be used for intercepting and escorting unknown/hostile aircraft.

This does nothing to upset Irans assymetric doctrine.

an example of how they can be used?

There was a prominent incident where an american aircraft decided to cut thru the Iran shortcut when leaving afghanistan into the middle east. Iranian air defence intercepted that plane, and forced it to leave with a threat of shooting it down. A su-35 could have easily escorted that plane out.

another good role would be when IRan captured those coward US navy sailors and put them on their knees for tresspassing into IRanian territory. during the first few tense moments, a few f-18s were scrambled to the area by the americans. And there was a hostile exchange between them and IRanian air defence. which warned them to leave the area immidiatly or get shot down.

su-35s could have performed both of those roles much better. 64 su-35s would be perfect for Iranian needs.
 

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Nothing officialy saying that. Russians nor Egyptians officials confirmed it and the production was ongoing with our own camos. If we canceled the deal, the Russians wouldn't make new aircrafts based on our own camos.


Big countries will not giving you significant ToT espcailly for a advanced aircraft like the SU-35. Egypt is asking ToT for the Tejas JF-17 T/FA-50 etc..

Asking for ToT for Tejas is ridiculous for Iran. Iran needs advanced heavy turbofans. Iran has good thrust to weight light single crystal tech turbofans.

Kaveri T to W is not suitable for Iran.
 
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Asking for ToT for Tejas is ridiculous for Iran. Iran needs advanced heavy turbofans. Iran has good trust to weight light single crystal tech turbofans.

Kaveri T to W is not suitable for Iran.
what kevari , India failed big time there and they use F404-GE-IN20 engines on tejas ,they said in Tejas mark 2 they use F414 but last year they again ordered 99 more F404

Asking for ToT for Tejas is ridiculous for Iran. Iran needs advanced heavy turbofans. Iran has good trust to weight light single crystal tech turbofans.

Kaveri T to W is not suitable for Iran.
what kaveri , India failed big time there and they use F404-GE-IN20 engines on tejas ,they said in Tejas mark 2 they use F414 but last year they again ordered 99 more F404
 

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2011 a huge diplomatic issue between Israel and Egypt after a gas pipline was destroyed by isis militants in Sinai, International Commercial Court awarded 15 billion dollars as Israel won the case which Egypt has to pay for and in the time Egypt only had 9 Billion dollars in its central bank. YEars pass and sisi takes control. between 2016 and 2020 agreements were signed listing Egypt would import ISraeli gas ata price of 3$/MMBtu 2 dollars for the gas 1 dollar for the court fee basically bought for above the international price for 15 years ahead. deal was active in 2020 this also prompted the acceptance of ISrael for quadrupling forces placed in sinai as part of the deal and not the reason the Israeli article which you use gave which isnt logical considering the number of volations on the old deal in 1979 which directly threatens ISrael's ational security.
Russia invades ukraine gas prices jump 5 times to reach 8-10$/MMBtu on average 9 and ISrael is obliged to to sell its gas to Egypt at 3$/MMBtu as per the agreement for 15 years. Not only is Egypt holding a leach on ISrael's economy but has relocated its forces on sinai on its terms. And it really explains the nature of today's diplomatic relations between the two states. What happened in Europe due to the war will happen to ISrael if there is any war between the two in the future. ISrael had tried to break away by selling its gas to turkey and greece through pipelines but was presented by the sheer cost of the project and Egypt presented a better deal to keep ISrael in bay.

What really matters to these people is money and their greed got them in a jail

I reacted to a foregoing suggestion. Zionists notoriously go out of their way to officially and publicly demonize their adversaries, real or imagined. Please tag me when they do with regards to Egypt, which ought to take place if there's substance to the assumption that Cairo and Tel Aviv are on a collision course.
 
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I reacted to a foregoing suggestion. Zionists notoriously go out of their way to officially and publicly demonize their adversaries, real or imagined. Please tag me when they do with regards to Egypt, which ought to take place if there's substance to the assumption that Cairo and Tel Aviv are on a collision course.
Whatever you say buddy, the results are on the ground you can explain them to yourself in whatever manner you like because thats what you like to do. HAve fun with your new PESA practce target that took a decade to contract on
 
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Whatever you say buddy, the results are on the ground you can explain them to yourself in whatever manner you like because thats what you like to do. HAve fun with your new PESA practce target that took a decade to contract on

Wait a minute, are you suggesting that the reason Egypt has been allowed to move its military to those two Saudi Islands is to counter Israel?! LOL
 

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Whatever you say buddy, the results are on the ground you can explain them to yourself in whatever manner you like because thats what you like to do. HAve fun with your new PESA practce target that took a decade to contract on

Have fun with the feel-good alternate ground reality in which the mighty Egyptian military is at war with the zionist entity, notwithstanding mutual diplomatic recognition and security coordination.
 
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And that is pure false equivocation, and cockroaches have some advantages on the a380 in that it can reproduce on its own, survive extinction events as well, and live without a head for a week! Either way youre a slave to western tech companies based on their name, so all I can see is bias and nothing substantial to reply to. Call me when you get some evidence!

I think this conversation took two to tango so let's go back to what I said earlier lets agree to disagree, because ultimately we want the enemies of the Ummah to eat themselves alive while we sit and watch. Wa alaikum assalaam!



Youre living in fantasy land and derailing the thread. Pakistan obviously doesnt agree with you since their military brass were in Iran recently trying to do cooperation. Pakistan military are smart and know whats going on. The Su-35s will help Iran and Pakistan sort the Balochi problem. It's all linked!
Those SU-35s should never be used against Pakistan otherwise results will be not suitable for Iranian revolutionary kids. Iran actually threatened the Pak army in February, just before IAF destruction on Feb 27. I don't trust Iran. Iran has secret relations with India. I hope Iran will not sacrifice itself for India. Anyway, good luck with these toys but keep these stupid toys away from the Pakistani border.
 

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Those SU-35s should never be used against Pakistan otherwise results will be not suitable for Iranian revolutionary kids. Iran actually threatened the Pak army in February, just before IAF destruction on Feb 27. I don't trust Iran. Iran has secret relations with India. I hope Iran will not sacrifice itself for India. Anyway, good luck with these toys but keep these stupid toys away from the Pakistani border.

Go play with toys dipstick
 
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Those SU-35s should never be used against Pakistan otherwise results will be not suitable for Iranian revolutionary kids. Iran actually threatened the Pak army in February, just before IAF destruction on Feb 27. I don't trust Iran. Iran has secret relations with India. I hope Iran will not sacrifice itself for India. Anyway, good luck with these toys but keep these stupid toys away from the Pakistani border.

I didnt mean use it against Pakistan, but against terrorists whom both Pakistan and Iran have issues with...unless of course youre a terrorist sympathiser and think that Balochi terrorists are synonymous with the Pakistani government? Who cares who you trust, do you think we trust you after Feb 27 where Iran acknowledged your secret service and corrupt ziopig government is funding and harbouring terrorists? you had a weak president in Rouhani then but now Pakistan knows the Raeesi government will act decisively, so maybe thats why your secret service has asked the Balochis terrorists to tone it down?!

Either way Iran doesnt fear Pakistan in any way, but also don't want friendship to have to be put aside for sake of national security. None of your business who Iran has open ties with, no secret that Iran trades with India...we could easily question your relations with US and link it with the terrorists at our border. If we have to put our hands on terrorists on your lands then we have every Islamic right to defend ourselves with su-35s or anything else for that matter.
 
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Those SU-35s should never be used against Pakistan otherwise results will be not suitable for Iranian revolutionary kids. Iran actually threatened the Pak army in February, just before IAF destruction on Feb 27. I don't trust Iran. Iran has secret relations with India. I hope Iran will not sacrifice itself for India. Anyway, good luck with these toys but keep these stupid toys away from the Pakistani border.
You have secret relations with zionist Saudi regime and in past with terrorist taliban and still with big Satan (US regime) so these things what you're mentioning are nonsense. Your arab friends are biggest friends of India.

Instead of building pipelines and doing trade you're trying to repeat poisonous nonsense to divide our countries.
 

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Those SU-35s should never be used against Pakistan otherwise results will be not suitable for Iranian revolutionary kids. Iran actually threatened the Pak army in February, just before IAF destruction on Feb 27. I don't trust Iran. Iran has secret relations with India. I hope Iran will not sacrifice itself for India. Anyway, good luck with these toys but keep these stupid toys away from the Pakistani border.

The mere suggestion of an intention on Iran's part to conduct strikes against Pakistan is beyond outlandish. Even if there was, Iran has literally dozens of other weapons which would be used in such a role, not Su-35 jets whose acquisition by Iran is still far from certain. For as said, their role would be a strictly defensive and eminently secondary one to boot (next to the IADS). So focusing on hypothetical Iranian Su-35's from a Pakistani perspective would be completely baseless.
 

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