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Iran Builds 3rd Underground Missile Factory

Discussion in 'Iranian Defence Forum' started by AmirPatriot, May 25, 2017.

  1. BlueInGreen2

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    Would you give it a rest already big guy.

    Ok it's fake bs, cool story. Go bother another thread with your banter, nobody here cares dude.

    I don't get your thinking though. Why is it hard to believe that Iran has many factories for the building of missiles?

    Iran has the tech, has the know how so it stand logically that Iran would protect the very thing producing it's detterent of ballistic missiles. Mountain bases and underground facilities aren't something that's impossible to make.

    Look I get it, sure Iran has shoddy unveilings of certain military weapons (even Iranians themselves are largEly skeptical of them) but their missiles are world class and not a joke. Their missiles are what keep them sage whether we like it or not and they're very effective given the years and years they've had to test design and redesign a certain missile. It's all a possibility for Iran.
     
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    Also I have heard Iran has some technology and weapons that has not publicly unveiled them yet but they are being mass produced.
     
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    Forums like this are a retard magnets....

    Tards come here and send hours talking crap, based on their ignorances and feel fulfilled...

    No point arguing too much in places like this.
     
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    No they mean Factory where they build missiles. Do you really think that Iran has only 3 Missile silos and that it is such a big achievement for them that they announce it publicly?
     
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    irrelevant ...
     
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    A missile is a missile. Some pic showed silo's but other showed an underground facility where you can drive you mobile TEL mounted missile to a launch position underneath a firing 'hole'. So, the socalled different is non-existing. We were not talking about air defences but about missile forces. Changing the subject doesn't help.

    And as we all know, air attack usually paves the way for ground invasion. Therefor, these structures are part of Iran's defensive lines.

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    I'm not suggesting anything about the Americans and if anyone is playing dumb here, it is you yourself. You only proven you can't manage a single civil post.
     
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    Doesn't matter if they are missiles, they do completely different jobs. It's like you're comparing a shield with a sword. There is in fact a huge difference.

    Again, these ballistic missile shelters are fortified offensive structures. Not defensive. If these were fortified SAMs, now that would be a problem, because SAMs are defensive.

    By the way, these facilities work both as launch facilities and storage. Meaning they can also allow the mobile TELs to leave and drive around the country for mobility, then return for missiles to be loaded back onto them.
     
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    Hardened Israeli airbases on which their conventional airpower is based are hence also "proven to be useless" defensive structures...
     
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    I beg to differ they are offensive. The whole idea of e.g. second strike capability is based on surviving the first strike. I.e. defensive. Hardening is one way of protecting your strike capability. Mobility is another.

    A fixed silo can be located and targeted. A whole series of 'firing holes' connected to a tunnel system through which TELs can drive around undetected is much harder to shut down.
     
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    I think Penguin just wanted to make a statement really. I get what he meant that under enough pressure a large fortification that is well defended can be destroyed but these missile factories and silos and TELS are part of a system really. I doubt Iran is just going to rely on missiles in the mountains for offense and defense.
     
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    during Iran-Iraq war, Saddam fired 176 ballistic missiles (scud and frog7) toward the city of Dezful , yet people didn't abandon their town. people were calling it the city of missiles, that's how it became the symbol of this town.
     
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    his comment and examples are essentially irrelevant.

    his examples are bunch of failed forefront defensive lines.
    on forefront your enemy is free to increase his pressure as much as he likes, but in the back things are different, you shouldn't allow the pressure on key spots to increase from a certain level. if that happens it means you have lost the battle already.
     
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    That's a fair assessment. These definitely aren't frontline fortifications. I guess he just wanted to make an (somewhat) irrelevant point lol.
     
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    These seems like assassinations rather than acts of terror (not every death is terror). Were large parts of foreign civilian populations attacked by Iranians I guess is what he meant.
     
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    Fortication is a form of protection. It's like saying that tank armor is not neseccary since new generation atgms can penetrate the older generation tank armor. Obviously defensive and offensive technologies are getting evolved simultaneously and when a new generation of one comes out then the counter of the other is developed and the iterations continues.
    Obviously the same thing goes with underground bunkers and bunker busters. Both of them have immense research behind them. Modern bunkers e.g. have various levels of different materials incorporated into them in order to defeat the bombs. Having no protection on the hand would make the counter strategies of your opponent much easier and cheaper since there is one less obstacle for them to defeat. Common sense really.
     
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