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Good going, Indonesia.

Indonesia needs to invest in quite submarines and best possible training of its crews from Western countries. Indonesia should play its card right by aligning itself with US and becoming a robust, powerful regional power.

As for the Chinese, they are laughable since nobody takes their claims seriously and the traffic through SCS continues as normal---despite Sino puppy squealing. Best they can do is to bring their fish trawlers and cause some annoyance to Indonesia/Malaysia (if that lol).

A potent submarine fleet is the best option to keep a bigger navy away.
thanks bro, it's rare to see a Pakistani support these days in regards to the South China Sea.
 

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thanks bro, it's rare to see a Pakistani support these days in regards to the South China Sea.
Lol bro, most Pakistanis dont even know what the SCS conflict is. Geopolitical considerations aside, Pakistani public always support Muslims anywhere and everywhere. Govt policy as you know is restricted by geopolitical considerations and what not.

Pakistani public would support China if the SCS conflict starts with say Philipines or Vietnam etc. Because China is our ally. But if SCS conflict starts with Malaysia/Indonesia, Pakistani public would support Indonesia/Malaysia because of the Muslim brotherhood that exists between common Muslims world over.


But lets hope none of that ever happens (conflict that is). Indonesia is a massive country and massive economy. It slowly needs to build its military muscle to match this reality.
 

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Perhaps there will surely an outcry from the general public in Pakistan. But the Government will stand with China along with many Pakistanis. That's because this isn't about religion, it's about sovereignty.
This proves that China don't understand Islam and muslim brotherhood. If infidels & anti-God people like China attacking muslim majority country like Indonesia, this will automatically be all about religion.

For muslims, war againts infidels attackers like China will automatically become a jihad, a holy war. Killing China in a holy war will be granted huge reward by God. On the other hand, if muslims die in a holy war against China, muslim souls will go straight to paradise/heaven as martyrs. Muslims believe that this is the best way to die.

There's a good example about this especially in relation between Indonesia and Pakistan. Back in Nov 1945 Indonesia fought in a huge war against the British and the British Indian troops in the coastal city of Surabaya. Suddenly the British Indian troops who were muslims (The Pakistanis) siding with Indonesia and fought the British. Most of them died in that war helping Indonesia. They didn't care that Indonesian troops and militias didn't have anything. They didn't care that British troops had everything from tanks, aircrafts, and warships. Why? Muslim brotherhood. They all died as martyrs (insya Allah).

So if China attack Indonesia now, all muslim fighters around the world will want to join the holy war and retaliate against China. Remember, Indonesia herself has more than 200 million muslims. China's attack will potentially generate the biggest number of muslim fighters around the world ever. Maybe even rival the muslim fighters from the crusade war era. Wanna try? Go on then.
 

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This proves that China don't understand Islam and muslim brotherhood. If infidels & anti-God people like China attacking muslim majority country like Indonesia, this will automatically be all about religion.

For muslims, war againts infidels attackers like China will automatically become a jihad, a holy war. Killing China in a holy war will be granted huge reward by God. On the other hand, if muslims die in a holy war against China, muslim souls will go straight to paradise/heaven as martyrs. Muslims believe that this is the best way to die.

There's a good example about this especially in relation between Indonesia and Pakistan. Back in Nov 1945 Indonesia fought in a huge war against the British and the British Indian troops in the coastal city of Surabaya. Suddenly the British Indian troops who were muslims (The Pakistanis) siding with Indonesia and fought the British. Most of them died in that war helping Indonesia. They didn't care that Indonesian troops and militias didn't have anything. They didn't care that British troops had everything from tanks, aircrafts, and warships. Why? Muslim brotherhood. They all died as martyrs (insya Allah).

So if China attack Indonesia now, all muslim fighters around the world will want to join the holy war and retaliate against China. Remember, Indonesia herself has more than 200 million muslims. China's attack will potentially generate the biggest number of muslim fighters around the world ever. Maybe even rival the muslim fighters from the crusade war era. Wanna try? Go on then.
Watch this and try to understand.

 

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This proves that China don't understand Islam and muslim brotherhood. If infidels & anti-God people like China attacking muslim majority country like Indonesia, this will automatically be all about religion.

For muslims, war againts infidels attackers like China will automatically become a jihad, a holy war. Killing China in a holy war will be granted huge reward by God. On the other hand, if muslims die in a holy war against China, muslim souls will go straight to paradise/heaven as martyrs. Muslims believe that this is the best way to die.

There's a good example about this especially in relation between Indonesia and Pakistan. Back in Nov 1945 Indonesia fought in a huge war against the British and the British Indian troops in the coastal city of Surabaya. Suddenly the British Indian troops who were muslims (The Pakistanis) siding with Indonesia and fought the British. Most of them died in that war helping Indonesia. They didn't care that Indonesian troops and militias didn't have anything. They didn't care that British troops had everything from tanks, aircrafts, and warships. Why? Muslim brotherhood. They all died as martyrs (insya Allah).

So if China attack Indonesia now, all muslim fighters around the world will want to join the holy war and retaliate against China. Remember, Indonesia herself has more than 200 million muslims. China's attack will potentially generate the biggest number of muslim fighters around the world ever. Maybe even rival the muslim fighters from the crusade war era. Wanna try? Go on then.
Take down little Israel first :D then come back and talking about your wet dream against Gigantic China
 
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This proves that China don't understand Islam and muslim brotherhood. If infidels & anti-God people like China attacking muslim majority country like Indonesia, this will automatically be all about religion.

For muslims, war againts infidels attackers like China will automatically become a jihad, a holy war. Killing China in a holy war will be granted huge reward by God. On the other hand, if muslims die in a holy war against China, muslim souls will go straight to paradise/heaven as martyrs. Muslims believe that this is the best way to die.

There's a good example about this especially in relation between Indonesia and Pakistan. Back in Nov 1945 Indonesia fought in a huge war against the British and the British Indian troops in the coastal city of Surabaya. Suddenly the British Indian troops who were muslims (The Pakistanis) siding with Indonesia and fought the British. Most of them died in that war helping Indonesia. They didn't care that Indonesian troops and militias didn't have anything. They didn't care that British troops had everything from tanks, aircrafts, and warships. Why? Muslim brotherhood. They all died as martyrs (insya Allah).

So if China attack Indonesia now, all muslim fighters around the world will want to join the holy war and retaliate against China. Remember, Indonesia herself has more than 200 million muslims. China's attack will potentially generate the biggest number of muslim fighters around the world ever. Maybe even rival the muslim fighters from the crusade war era. Wanna try? Go on then.

But many middle east nations doesn't care much when US attack Libya, Afghanistan or Iraq, including Indonesia.
Not because of disregard brotherhood, but because their own interest.
 

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3billion for 8 new g frigates,that's super cheap. Are the japanese selling at cost and dont add.their profit margin on it?
 

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This proves that China don't understand Islam and muslim brotherhood. If infidels & anti-God people like China attacking muslim majority country like Indonesia, this will automatically be all about religion.

For muslims, war againts infidels attackers like China will automatically become a jihad, a holy war. Killing China in a holy war will be granted huge reward by God. On the other hand, if muslims die in a holy war against China, muslim souls will go straight to paradise/heaven as martyrs. Muslims believe that this is the best way to die.

There's a good example about this especially in relation between Indonesia and Pakistan. Back in Nov 1945 Indonesia fought in a huge war against the British and the British Indian troops in the coastal city of Surabaya. Suddenly the British Indian troops who were muslims (The Pakistanis) siding with Indonesia and fought the British. Most of them died in that war helping Indonesia. They didn't care that Indonesian troops and militias didn't have anything. They didn't care that British troops had everything from tanks, aircrafts, and warships. Why? Muslim brotherhood. They all died as martyrs (insya Allah).

So if China attack Indonesia now, all muslim fighters around the world will want to join the holy war and retaliate against China. Remember, Indonesia herself has more than 200 million muslims. China's attack will potentially generate the biggest number of muslim fighters around the world ever. Maybe even rival the muslim fighters from the crusade war era. Wanna try? Go on then.
Ohh shit... The comment became sectarian lol.
Take down little Israel first :D then come back and talking about your wet dream against Gigantic China
Lol it's funny though, no jokes
Watch this and try to understand.

Better you show him about human evolution and make him doubt about creationism lol.
 
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Perhaps there will surely an outcry from the general public in Pakistan. But the Government will stand with China along with many Pakistanis. That's because this isn't about religion, it's about sovereignty.
Lol c'mon, its not happening. China isn't taking over Natuna in our lifetimes nor it is establishing sovereignty over SCS.

Pointless discussion to be honest.
 

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Doesn't matter what they do, this gives China an excuse to expand the navy as well as deploy lots of advance bombers. Even the Philippines isn't that dumb.
 

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Any country that wants to threaten Chinese territory will be punished with hard power. No ASEAN countries (even combined) can challenge China, not Japan, not India, not Australia. South Korea does not even want to feel Chinese wrath. We have the most powerful Navy in the region backed by our Airforce and Missile force. The region is completely covered with the goal of defeating the US Navy should it be foolish enough to start a war in the East China Sea and the South China Sea. Indonesians better stop dreaming like the Vietnamese idiots here who think they can match our Naval forces.
 

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How wonderful to see all the glodok people showed up replying to my post:omghaha:

There will be better videos, once infidels China attacking majority muslims Indonesia, you will see plenty of beautiful videos of Indonesian Chinese muslims beheading china's troops. Then all infidels china loving glodok people will start to flee to their masters:omghaha:

This is forum, you post statement then people will react and reply and not necessarily to be in agreement with you. And hey If you expect ppl to always parrotting you then I am telling you most forums will not suit you, except exclusive forum which members only people like you. :)

I gave you hard fact, whether you like it or not, you are free to argue.

But I can see the root cause of this rumble and unrest .. it is such a sentiment feeling (suspicion, or even hatred toward non muslim chinese) + flath earth mindset, which is rampant among us, + immaturity. :D
 
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How wonderful to see all the glodok people showed up replying to my post:omghaha:

There will be better videos, once infidels China attacking majority muslims Indonesia, you will see plenty of beautiful videos of Indonesian Chinese muslims beheading china's troops. Then all infidels china loving glodok people will start to flee to their masters:omghaha:
It is not wise to mix up religious / racial sentiment with national sentiment just saying. Indonesia is not an islamic country after all and I know a Tionghoa TNI member who got angrier than average Indonesian regarding Natuna issue. Please don’t disrespect him ;)

And no, Islamic brotherhood basically is dead the moment the Saudis and Gulf States signed up with the US in the 80s. May I remind you that some members of the Islamic brotherhood countries were actually working to undermine Indonesia as well? Libya supported GAM, Malaysia... that is well known, Saudi Arabia was supportive of hardliners that are destabilizing current political landscape and so on.
China doesnt claim Natuna, but its claim to the waters around it does overlap with Indonesian EEZ. Since China is constantly bringing its ships to that location It is only natural that Indonesia replies in kind doesnt it?
We don't need any excuse to expand navy. We are winner of WWII and Cold War.
Ironically, you owed that to the very country you bash every day.
 
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Weird, Indonesia is pulling all the stops to get on China's radar for some reason.
it's not us who in early 2020, just came out of nowhere with Coast guards and trawlers in the Natuna waters.

in fact it's china who's always wanted to be on the radar, from the Himalayas, Senkaku, Taiwan, Natuna, Scarborough shoal etc.

lolz
 

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