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  1. Reashot Xigwin

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    Defense Minister Receives Beladau Warship
    Friday, 25 January, 2013 | 17:50 WIB

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    TEMPO Interactive, Jakarta: Indonesia's Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro officially received a new warship, the Beladau. The Fast Missiles Boat 40 (KCR 40) is manufactured by PT Palindo Marine, Batam. This is the third vessel Palindo worked on of four ordered.

    "KCR 40 is now officially the warship of the Indonesian Republic," the Minister declared after accepting the ship at Batu Ampar Pier in Batam, Friday, January 25.

    The KCR 40 has an estimated contract value of Rp 75 billion per unit. The government aims to have a fleet of 16 KCR 40 warships by 2014. Palindo's Managing Director, Harmanto, said the company requires 12 months to finish the making of one ship.
    The latest addition of the KCR 40 is named Beladau 643 after a Riau-Mentawai traditional weapon. The two previous units were named Clurit 641 and Kujang 642.

    Tempointeraktif.com - Defense Minister Receives Beladau Warship
     
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    ^^Check out these guys, equipped with brand new Pindad SS2 V5 rifles

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    Third locally made missile ship delivered
    Fadli and Novan Iman Santosa, The Jakarta Post, Batam/Jakarta | Headlines | Sat, January 26 2013, 8:56 AM

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    (Antara/Maha Eka Swasta)Pride of the nation: Soldiers attend the launch of the warship KRI Beladau at Batu Ampar quay, Batam, on Friday. With a maximum speed of 30 knots, the 44-meter vessel is billed as one of the most sophisticated, domestically built war machines. (Antara/Maha Eka Swasta)

    The Defense Ministry accepted its third locally made KCR-40 fast missile boat on Friday, adding to the push to strengthen both the Indonesian Navy and local defense industries.

    Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro officiated the ceremony for the KRI Beladau-643 at Batu Ampar Port in Batam, Riau Islands.

    Also attending the ceremony were Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Adm. Agus Suhartono, Navy chief of staff Adm. Marsetyo, and vice president director of Bank Mandiri, Riswandi.

    Purnomo said the Beladau was the third KCR-40 to enter the Navy’s service after the KRI Clurit-641 and KRI Kujang-642.

    The three vessels were part of a series of acquisitions of 16 KCR-40s until 2014. A fourth vessel will be delivered in November while the remaining 12 KCR-40s will be delivered by 2014.

    Earlier this month, the ministry, which has a budget of Rp 81 trillion (US$8.42 billion) this year, revised down its target to reach the required level of weapons systems from three Strategic Plans (Renstra) to two five-year plans.

    By procuring the KCR-40s at home, the ministry is maximizing local defense industries through requiring a transfer-of-technology with every purchase of a foreign weapons system.

    Manufactured by PT Palindo Marine Shipyard, the KCR-40 will be equipped with Chinese made C-705 anti-ship missiles that have a range of some 150-kilometers. State aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia is expected to locally produce the C-705 missiles by 2017 or 2018.

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    Meanwhile, Agus expected the new vessel would increase the Navy’s capabilities in safeguarding Indonesia’s vast territorial waters.

    The three KCR-40s will be operated by the Western Fleet in the shallow waters around Sumatra, parts of Java and Kalimantan.

    Agus also touched on the plan to create a Central Fleet in addition to Eastern and Western Fleets.

    “We are studying the organization. We will also create the Sea Defense Command [Kohanla] which will supervise the fleets,” he said, without elaborating on the time frame.

    Commenting on the plan to establish the third fleet and Kohanla, Iis Gindarsyah from the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) said that it was a sign of Indonesia’s aspiration for a green water navy.

    “The projection is likely about the security of Indonesia’s maritime borders and strategic sea-lanes,” he told The Jakarta Post. He added that the current situation in the South China Sea had placed greater external pressures on Indonesia.

    A green navy is often described as a navy with greater coverage than a traditional littoral brown water navy, but stops short of the expansive power of a blue water navy, which contains aircraft carriers.

    In addition to having another fleet, the Navy is also preparing the Third Marines, who will be based in Sorong, West Papua.

    The Navy has been modernizing its weapons systems in the past few years with acquisitions and plans to further acquire major weapons systems such as submarines, maritime patrol aircraft, anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters, light frigates and guided missile destroyers.

    Third locally made missile ship delivered | The Jakarta Post
     
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    What is the current news on Indonesia's Leopard deal with Germany ?
     
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    TNI Finally Official Buy Leopard Tank

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    The Ministry of Defence signed a official contract procurement of main battle tank Leopard with a German company, Rheinmetal. "(Purchase contract) was signed in mid-December," said the Head of the Defence Planning Ministry of Defence, Major General Prabowo Ediwan, told Tempo, Wednesday, January 9, 2013.

    The contract value purchase heavy tank, said Ediwan, under a budget ceiling of U.S. $ 280 million. "Less than a bit of that number," he said without mentioning nominal.

    Ediwan ensure the technical specifications and the number of tanks to be produced remains the same as the initial agreement. "Yes, they agreed with our offer."

    Purchasing tank weighing 63 tons is also equipped with the technology transfer agreement signed last November 2012. "PT Pindad and Army Central Workshop will receive training to improve cooperation mild to severe."

    The plan, Indonesia will buy Leopard tanks with RIs and A24 along with Marder weighing 33 tons. Ri Leopard priced at U.S. $ 1.7 million or approximately Rp. 16.4 billion per unit. Indonesia reportedly ordered 61 tank Leopard Ri and 42 Leopard 2A4 for U.S. $ 700 thousand or Rp. 6.7 billion per unit. "That would be coupled with ammunition and supporters," said Ediwan. These tanks will add military forces on the border.

    TNI Akhirnya Resmi Beli Tank Leopard * | nasional | Tempo.co

    [video] Interview deputy minister of defense and Head of the Defence Planning Ministry of Defence about alutsista 2013


    at 1:30 he describes the deal of leopard tank
     
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    The deal is already finalized along with the deal for Marder A3 as shown on Scobydoo's post, the first Leopard to arrive in Indonesia was on November 2012 for initial examination purpose

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    The future of the national defense industry
    Harry Kuffal, Jakarta | Opinion | Mon, January 28 2013, 10:25 AM


    Two important events related to the defense industry marked the beginning of 2013. The first was the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) report on defense market trends in Europe and the second was the US Congress approval of the federal budget for 2013.

    CSIS reported a defense spending decline in 37 European countries from ¤263.1 billion (US$352 billion) in 2001 to ¤220.0 billion in 2011. But the budget per soldier increased from ¤76,700 in 2001 to ¤100,800 in 2011.

    The second event came on Jan. 1, when the US Congress compromised and approved a budget worth $3,800 billion. It includes a $672 billion defense budget, of which $613 billion can be directly spent (nondiscretionary) and “only” about $216 billion is for procurement. It is easy to predict that both developments will result in an influx of offers of US and European defense industrial products to Indonesia.

    Coincidentally, in October 2012 the House of Representatives endorsed the Defense Industry Law, constituting the most historic landmark since premier Juanda introduced the archipelagic concept by the end of the 1950s as the basis for Indonesia’s defense industry development.

    Only in 1980 did the government form a Defense Industry Development Team (TPIH) to study and recommend several companies and institutions categorized as strategic and defense industries, which were later managed by the Strategic Industries Management Agency (BPIS). Ten of the state-owned enterprises, including aircraft maker IPTN, ship builder PT PAL Indonesia, weapons maker PT Pindad, explosives manufacturer Dahana and steel producer Krakatau Steel (KS) put in good performances in terms of liquidity and solvency even after the 1997 Asian financial crisis. When consolidated in the BPIS, their profitability ratio increased.

    Their situation was undermined when the International Monetary Fund (IMF) demanded suspension of aid as well as programs for Indonesia’s aeronautic and maritime technological development and the government’s strategic industrial procurement. In 2002 PT BPIS was dissolved.

    After 10 years of confusion, some of the companies have reawakened and recovered such as Dahana and Pindad. Others like train car maker PT INKA have started making profits and KS has become a listed company with the potential to grow into a giant iron and steel holding company.

    It should be admitted, however, that the strategic and defense industries have been stagnant and lacking orientation. It is almost certain they will remain unable to support self-sufficiency in defense, particularly in meeting the need for primary weaponry systems.

    As for their supporting industries, Indonesia seems to be already independent and capable. Various initiatives have been made to revitalize these industries. Yet the intricacy of developing healthy strategic and defense industries is seen from two main points of view.

    In the first place, the demand side, where the government serves as a single consumer, in effect a monopsony. Various problems arising such as limited budget allocations, complicated bureaucratic mechanisms and low confidence of users in national industrial products have weakened the country’s defense industry.

    A decision by the Indonesian Military (TNI) and National Police (Polri) to use domestically produced weapons and the Defense Industry Law should constitute the main asset to synchronize measures with the national defense industry to achieve strong state defense capabilities.

    On the other hand is the supply side. The national defense industry is generally unsound in financial and managerial terms and is less competitive than its foreign competitors.

    The US teaches us a lesson. In the early Cold War period of the 1950s, the US was “surprised” by the Soviet Union’s successful launch of the first manmade satellite, Sputnik. The US was harder hit when the Soviet Union sent a dog, Laika, into space and later cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin made the first manned space flight.

    The spirit to keep abreast of the latest advances was voiced by then president Kennedy, who unified his nation with a campaign to land the first man on the moon. Consequently, all the existing resources were mobilized in a highly focused and integrated way.

    The US defense industry soon had advanced technological applications for its army, naval and air forces because research and development costs were borne by the national moon-landing program. The US government also granted contracts to its defense industry to develop future fighter aircraft by utilizing Apollo program technology.

    Obviously, the US defense industry enjoys indirect subsidies. All the facilities related to R&D and production become government property, so that they were not listed as assets and imposed no corporate burden. Such subsidies and facilities certainly are beyond comparison with Indonesia, which dissolved the BPIS in 2002 so that the relevant companies have had to bear R&D costs for a relatively limited market.

    Lessons on government commitments to successful defense industry development can be learned from China, Brazil, South Korea and Turkey. Even more extreme forms and patterns involve the defense industry development of Israel and Singapore because they have the perception of threats or embargos by surrounding countries.

    On Dec. 9, 2009, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono called for defense industry efficiency and revitalization with the aim of creating defense and security with a minimum essential force; an increase in the defense budget in correlation with the GDP and with reference to future warfare, doctrines and geographic conditions; the ability to perform multi-role tasks by preparing for military operations other than war; and to make designation according to necessity and interoperability.

    With a clear legal umbrella and presidential direction, the Defense Ministry is expected to be able to coordinate the procurement of primary weaponry systems and the development of the national defense industry. The goals can be realized through a focus of activity declared as a National Program, which should constitute a consensus and be formulated by an official institution: the Committee on Defense Industry Policy (KKIP).

    In the short (five-year) term, the government can utilize the defense industry’s production capacity and capability through offset mechanisms like countertrade, joint production and measured transfers of technology. In the medium term, the TNI and Polri as users should provide input and evaluate the products being developed according to their needs. In the long term, users and the defense industry should jointly study the necessity for new products based on the defense strategy and other elements already indicated by the President.

    The National Program is certainly only one way of developing the defense industry and will depend greatly on studies of the potential and perception of threats faced by the military and police. The other move is strengthening the strategic industrial structure to improve financial and human resources performance, for which the sole option to be considered is industrial consolidation.

    A feasible consolidation alternative involves industries more engaged in the production of primary weaponry systems like Pindad, Dahana, LEN, INTI and DI; for the formation of an aeronautic and defense holding company such as EADS in Europe. Meanwhile, PAL, DPS, IKI, BBI, Barata, DKB and INKA can combine to form a shipping and heavy industry holding company such as Hyundai Heavy Industries, now the largest in the world.

    With the two new holding companies, supported by the KS holding industry specializing in iron and steel, a synergy would definitely be created in terms of the management and structural reinforcement of the defense industry in Indonesia.

    Through the consolidation of R&D, allocations can be managed by integration (fund pooling) so as to reduce the load on relevant industries. Sound strategic industries are the main prerequisite for the development of an independent national defense industry and its strategic nature necessitates the government through the KKIP to guarantee its vitality. An independent defense industry is not merely meant for defense but also for public welfare.

    The writer is president director of state-owned explosives producer PT Dahana. The opinions expressed are his own

    The future of the national defense industry | The Jakarta Post
     
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    Now Good news for Indonesian Army has also come but when I will heard good news and lot of good news about new fighter planes for Indonesian Air Force
     
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    Just wait for the F-16s to come to Indonesia shore, I'll be waiting for this baby :smokin:
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    How many of them ( Leopard Tank ) have arrived when on earth Indonesia will order some really large number of Fighter Jets for its Air Force ?

    Sir still F-16 will only around 26 and this plane don't know how much time will this take still only Indonesia seems to buy only 50 of these I think Indonesia should have around 250 most modern Fighter Planes
     
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    One Leo 2 revo and one marder, the deal was signed on November 2012, the ordered tanks are expected to arrive this mid-year.

    Nope, the existing one squadron plus 2 additional squadron will be 48 jets since Indonesia uses one squadron consists of 16 aircraft. Yep, everybody seems to think that way too, but I don't know when our Leaders will trigger alert to rapidly expand offensive capability, they seem to enjoy their peaceful diplomacy.
     
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    Indonesia only currently need around 100+ Fighter plane. There are whisper that Indonesia will buy another batch of Sukhoi jets & a 5th gen Fighter like the PAK-FA to bolster the ranks. Whether the military budget will be increased to buy more jets is for now just a speculation.
     
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    That's not KFX look like.

    This is small scale model of KFX:
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