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Why not than Chinese jet here or F 16 Block 70

Nope, China is our possible threat, the only country in our region that become our threat considering their superpower status and our dispute in SCS.

10 of our F 16 A/B has been undergoing refurbished and upgraded program (6 planes have already been refurbished and upgraded so far). Planning Ministry has approved another 23 F 16 C/D upgrade (waiting Finance Minister approval). Sukhoi and Hawk will be refurbished and upgrade (both Planning Minister and Finance Minister have agreed), while we are going to buy 12 -14 second hand Mirage 2000-5 from Qatar (It has been approved).

Planning Minister and Finance Minister also only approve another 12 Rafale to complete it into 1 squadron.

If you see them all, it is all interim and stop gap measure before we are manufacturing KF21/IFX starting in 2027/2028 inshaAllah.

 
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Nope, China is our possible threat, the only country in our region that become our threat considering their superpower status and our dispute in SCS.

10 of our F 16 A/B has been undergoing refurbished and upgraded program (6 planes have already been refurbished and upgraded so far). Planning Ministry has approved another 23 F 16 C/D upgrade (waiting Finance Minister approval). Sukhoi and Hawk will be refurbished and upgrade (both Planning Minister and Finance Minister have agreed), while we are going to buy second hand Mirage 2000-5 from Qatar (It has been approved).

Planning Minister and Finance Minister also only approve another 12 Rafale to complete it into 1 squadron.

If you see them all, it is all interim and stop gap measure before we are manufacturing KF21/IFX starting in 2027/2028 inshaAllah.

Agreed if if you choose them as your enemy today or tomorrow they will be next super power in region other major countries won't get much effect once china rule this region but they make sure Indonesia Vietnam and other small nation suffer more due to helping USA better save that day and be a part of future ruler and make same MOU with them
 

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Agreed if if you choose them as your enemy today or tomorrow they will be next super power in region other major countries won't get much effect once china rule this region but they make sure Indonesia Vietnam and other small nation suffer more due to helping USA better save that day and be a part of future ruler and make same MOU with them

We never see them as enemy, but possible threat. We and China are friend. But it is reasonable to be careful and prepare for the worst. We also should be preparing another possible embargo from US and Western nations that maybe impossible for now due to power games of US vs China in the region, but who knows 20-30 years from now..........

That is why I am very pro program like KF21/IFX and other related program conducted by our local defense industry.

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We never see them as enemy, but possible threat. We and China are friend. But it is reasonable to be careful and prepare for the worst. We also should be preparing another possible embargo from US and Western nations that maybe impossible for now due to power games of US vs China in the region, but who knows 20-30 years from now..........

That is why I am very pro program like KF21/IFX and other related program conducted by our local defense industry.

As China quote

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Sir if you buy a weapons from Chinese enemies they think you are allies of them as India so better avoid such systems which won't work if you need to fight against other us ally
 

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Sir if you buy a weapons from Chinese enemies they think you are allies of them as India so better avoid such systems which won't work if you need to fight against other us ally

Indonesia also buy China weapons like some Shorad and UCAV MALE CH 4. We have 6 CH4 and another acquisition have been approved by Minister of Planning, but not yet approved by Minister of Finance.

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Indonesia planning minister has approved Scorpene acquisition for one submarine in 2022 Green Book and two submarine in 2023 Blue book. But now lets Finance Minister decide, the ball is now in her.

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While both F15 EX and FREEM acqusition havent been passing the Minister of Planning approval yet, which I hope they both shouldnt be passed. Too expensive and cannot face our future challenge while we have already had KF21/IFX program going on and PT PAL and Babcock cooperation with their frigates design (Arrowhead).

Bro i got that you really wanted KF-X, we all do.

But our Air Force posture is literally DYING right now and we need immediate options to enhance our AF posture. That being said All of these new Airframes will have their roles.
  • KF-X/IF-X to replace Hawk Series (and definitely this option will not be ready anytime soon not to mention combat proven)
  • Rafale to replace F-16 Squad
  • F-15EX definitely to replace ageing Sukhois (which now have become a regular hangar queen). F-15EX definitely if we decided to buy, will arrive much sooner than KF-X and we all know their reputation in the air already.
The key word is How fast we can get the armaments, you said it that we have immediate potential threat up north. do you think conflict will wait until we have KF-X/IF-X ready?

So why the fuss over EX and FREMM?

FREMM purchase is also related to timeline, just take example of our so called "Merah Putih Figate the ArrowHead 140", how long does they take to just cut the first steel? this is due to the ToT process and ship redesigning.

FREMM purchase arrangement, 4 will be built by fincantieri (no re-design) while the last 2 will be in PT PAL. At least we will have a good headway for the first 4 of the ships.
 

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Bro i got that you really wanted KF-X, we all do.

But our Air Force posture is literally DYING right now and we need immediate options to enhance our AF posture. That being said All of these new Airframes will have their roles.
  • KF-X/IF-X to replace Hawk Series (and definitely this option will not be ready anytime soon not to mention combat proven)
  • Rafale to replace F-16 Squad
  • F-15EX definitely to replace ageing Sukhois (which now have become a regular hangar queen). F-15EX definitely if we decided to buy, will arrive much sooner than KF-X and we all know their reputation in the air already.
The key word is How fast we can get the armaments, you said it that we have immediate potential threat up north. do you think conflict will wait until we have KF-X/IF-X ready?

So why the fuss over EX and FREMM?

FREMM purchase is also related to timeline, just take example of our so called "Merah Putih Figate the ArrowHead 140", how long does they take to just cut the first steel? this is due to the ToT process and ship redesigning.

FREMM purchase arrangement, 4 will be built by fincantieri (no re-design) while the last 2 will be in PT PAL. At least we will have a good headway for the first 4 of the ships.



Budget constrain, we cannot take them all, it is not a secret anymore that our defense budget is always below 1 % of GDP. We have to select the acquisition plan wisely, economically, and strategically. We will see I think until 2023 November what our government will finally take.

My opinion is very rational, current Armed Force commander for example has the same opinion with me, he once criticizes Prabowo acquisition plan publicly in front of media right ? And next Armed Force commander is also stated the same not long ago.

Defense budget next year is also not much different with current defense budget where we are having difficulty to pay our financial contribution for KF21/IFX program. Prabowo wants to solve this by using Korean loan, but our planning minister against it, he wants the payment is taken directly from Defense Ministry budget, without foreign loan backing just like what happened in previous payments. The document over this has already been leaked.

For next year Indonesia is reported to do the payment again around 30 million USD in 2023, but that amount is too small compared to overall Indonesia obligation. It shows even without F15 EX, FREEM, and scorpene order our defense budget is already showing difficulty to pay our financial obligation for KF21/IFX program. From those three I mentioned, I prefer picking scorpene acquisition since the submarine will be built in Indonesia and there is cooperation with battery technology as well.

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MILITARY SPENDING IN ASIA​

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How much do Asian countries spend on their military?

Asia Military Spending, Percentage to GDP

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Budget constrain, we cannot take them all, it is not a secret anymore that our defense budget is always below 1 % of GDP. We have to select the acquisition plan wisely, economically, and strategically. We will see I think until 2023 November what our government will finally take.

My opinion is very rational, current Armed Force commander for example has the same opinion with me, he once criticizes Prabowo acquisition plan publicly in front of media right ? And next Armed Force commander is also stated the same not long ago.


Armed Force Commander Suggests to Minister of Defense Prabowo Regarding Defense Equipment Acquisition, Be Realistic According to Budget that government has provided
 
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Pakistani PM extends condolences​

  • Wednesday, 30 Nov 2022

PAKISTANI Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif has extended condolences to Indonesian President Joko Widodo over the loss of precious lives and assets in a deadly earthquake jolting Indonesia, according to a statement issued by the prime minister’s office.

In a telephone conversation held with the Indonesian president on Monday, the Pakistani prime minister expressed solidarity with the people of Indonesia.

“The people of Pakistan could feel the anguish of their Indonesian brothers and sisters, having recently suffered immensely due to natural calamities,” the statement quoted Sharif as saying.

Thanking the Indonesian president for the assistance provided by his government for the victims of floods in Pakistan, the prime minister offered to extend Pakistan’s support for relief efforts underway in Indonesia in the wake of the deadly earthquake, said the statement. — Xinhua

 

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My take on next Indonesia President

Regarding next Indonesia President, I expect it will likely be between Ganjar Pranowo and Anies Baswedan. Prabowo is in second place based on majority of 2022 survey. His popularity is in decreasing mode as last year he was still the most popular candidate for President.

I think after Anies is backed by Nasdem Party and then soon will likely be endorsed by Demokrat and PKS Parties as well, his popularity will likely be boosted and I expect in middle of November survey (the result will be released in December 2022) he will likely sit in the second place after Ganjar Pranowo.


AlhamduliLLAH, the trend seems to be going in line with both my prediction and expectation. Charta Politika is quite credible, although I rate Indikator and LSI as the most credible survey company in Indonesia.

Here my prediction on those three people

Ganjar
: He will likely follow Jokowi policy in economy and defense. His chance is only with Golkar/PPP/PAN coalition. PDI-P is unlikely to support him. So far he is not allowed to talk about Presidency by his party, so we dont know his plan on both economy and defense, but due to Jokowi support on him, his policy is likely pretty similar on how Jokowi administration policy on both economic and defense.

For defense, maybe will be more similar with Jokowi first term as there is no Prabowo as Defense Minister anymore in his possible administration. Larger spending on defense in the second Jokowi administration shows Jokowi tolerance as he had brough Prabowo into his ruling coalition.

Jokowi also has big tendency to support local defense industry in term of the acquisition. It can be seen on the first term acquisition tendency, he is regarded as very pro local products and his administration tries so hard to improve and grow local product sales on Government spending and SOE spending.

Anies : He will likely have different economic policy, not focusing too much on infrastructure as like Jokowi, I dont know the rest of policy but as Academic Professor he may have more willingness on Research program. For defense I see more research and more support for KF21/IFX program will likely be pursuit as Demokrat party is also part of Anies supporter and it is under Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in 2009 that the program is started (MOU).

Prabowo : I dont know about his economic plan, but for defense it will likely be crazy, I mean his previous proposal that is rejected by Jokowi and his economic team could be executed under his Presidency
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Charta Politika Survey: Presidential Candidate Rivalry Purses Two Names, Ganjar and Anies

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JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com- Charta Politika's latest survey of presidential candidates (capres) ranks Ganjar Pranowo as the figure with the highest electability. The electoral rate of the Governor of Central Java reached 32.6 percent. Then, in second place is former DKI Jakarta Governor Anies Baswedan whose electability rose to 23.1 percent.

Anies managed to shift Prabowo Subianto to third place. The electability of the Gerindra Party Chairman fell to 22.0 percent. Anies' Electability Surpasses Prabowo, Now Second Only to Ganjar Executive Director of Charta Politika Yunarto Wijaya said that the competition for presidential candidates in the future was reduced to only two names, namely Ganjar and Anies.

"It tends to purse instead of talking about three names, my speculation will be narrowed to Ganjar and Anies," said Yunarto in the Charta Politika Indonesia YouTube show, Tuesday (29/11/2022). Although Prabowo's figure is still in great demand, Yunarto said, data shows that the names Ganjar and Anies dominate in various regions. According to Yunarto, this situation cannot be separated from the history of the 2014 and 2019 Presidential Elections (Pilpres) which confronted Jokowi with Prabowo.

The figure of Ganjar is now the most closely imaged as Jokowi's successor. Meanwhile, the figure who is synonymous with the antithesis of the president is no longer Prabowo, but Anies. Therefore, it is not surprising that now public support has strengthened to Ganjar and Anies, while Prabowo has begun to be marginalized. "The tendency to control this territory is starting to narrow down to two names," Yunarto said.

Apart from these names, there are several other figures who also have the potential to become presidential candidates. West Java Governor Ridwan Kamil ranked fourth in the survey with an electability of 5.6 percent.

Then successively there were the names of the Chairman of the Democratic Party Agus Harimurti Yudhoyono aka AHY (3.5 percent), the Minister of Tourism and Creative Economy Sandiaga Uno (2.0 percent), and the Governor of East Java Khofifah Indar Parawansa (1.6 percent).

Then, in eighth place and so on, there is the figure of the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the Republic of Indonesia Puan Maharani (1.6 percent), Chairman of the Golkar Party Airlangga Hartarto (1.5 percent), and Minister of SOEs Erick Thohir (1.4 percent).

The Charta Politika survey was held on November 4-12, 2022. The survey uses the face-to-face interview method.

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