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Hilarious. So what what was his name Mohammad Abdul porus al pakistani?

Neither you have any heritage nor Identity. You even claim Indus civilization as your own when it has got nothing to do with Islam or muslims. And there's was no pakistan before 47. British made it to act as a buffer against Soviet invasion.
People inherit their history irrespective of the religion of their people. Just like present day Iranians are rightful claimants of the the old Persian empire and history despite them being muslims and giving up Zoroastrianism; same for Egyptians who are muslims now, Babylon which is Iraq and Syria now etc., the Indus civilization was centered around the river Indus which is entirely in Pakistan. All those ancient cities and people living from those ancient times makeup present day Pakistan. Most of the remnants and the people are primarily here now; if an archeologist needs to study Indus civilization he/she has to come to Pakistan. Even if Pakistan as a country came into existence in 47, it doesn’t not mean all the people and this land they live on just dropped from space with no lineage and history. Otherwise with your hateful twisted logic Egyptians have no claim to their ancient Egyptian history and Iranians would be deprived of their old Persian history as well (I dare you to try this with some Iranian members here) - as all the old civilizations were following pagan religions, so by that logic only you Indians are the rightful claimants to all the Babylonian and ancient idol worshipping Arab history.

These people and the land they have been living on is primarily the Indus civilization- Present day Indians have their own history as well such as Sikhs and Tamils, but it’s irrelevant to the history and culture of Pakistanis (maybe Sikhs have a connection due to them being Punjabis).
 
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we have to save our greek friends from enemies .long live sikandar e azam .

lol :D:D:D:D
alexander sahab did not know he was attacking pakistan .
He wasn't attacking India either,
he was attacking kingdoms in the Punjab, and other in KPK, Sindh and Baluchistan.

Your brain has not been able to comprehend this simple fact, otherwise you would not have given such a stupid reply, those place are historical heritage of the people of PAKISTAN. The blood of people who faced Alexander still runs through own veins.

Not some Marathi, Gujarati, Bengali or Tamilian. Go get a brain before you post online. Stick with your history and stop claiming others, especially mine. You sad people.

Even a child could understand this, is it so hard to ask mature Indians do the same.
 

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Hilarious. So what what was his name Mohammad Abdul porus al pakistani?

Neither you have any heritage nor Identity. You even claim Indus civilization as your own when it has got nothing to do with Islam or muslims. And there's was no pakistan before 47. British made it to act as a buffer against Soviet invasion.
Why are you people so dumb.
The blood of the Indus people runs through the people of the Indus till this day, because it is the same region, land does not uproot itself, it is the only constant in history.

If a Marathi changes his religion, that's not an ethnic marker, he still remain a Marathi, or if an Englishman becomes a Hindu, Hindu is not an ethnic marker, he still remain English, but an English Hindu, English is an ethnic group, Hinduism a religion.

Regarding the name Pakistan, names are evolutionary, that reflect the political realities of the day.

Why are you people so stuck up inside your fantasies, that basic facts, well, all facts fail to enter your brains?
 

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People inherit their history irrespective of the religion of their people. Just like present day Iranians are rightful claimants of the the old Persian empire and history despite them being muslims and giving up Zoroastrianism; same for Egyptians who are muslims now, Babylon which is Iraq and Syria now etc., the Indus civilization was centered around the river Indus which is entirely in Pakistan. All those ancient cities and people living from those ancient times makeup present day Pakistan. Most of the remnants and the people are primarily here now; if an archeologist needs to study Indus civilization he/she has to come to Pakistan. Even if Pakistan as a country came into existence in 47, it doesn’t not mean all the people and this land they live on just dropped from space with no lineage and history. Otherwise with your hateful twisted logic Egyptians have no claim to their ancient Egyptian history and Iranians would be deprived of their old Persian history as well (I dare you to try this with some Iranian members here) - as all the old civilizations were following pagan religions, so by that logic only you Indians are the rightful claimants to all the Babylonian and ancient idol worshipping Arab history.

These people and the land they have been living on is primarily the Indus civilization- Present day Indians have their own history as well such as Sikhs and Tamils, but it’s irrelevant to the history and culture of Pakistanis (maybe Sikhs have a connection due to them being Punjabis).
First of all I am not hateful. Secondly get your facts right, Indus civilization streched as far as rajasthan, Haryana and Gujarat. And Irani have no claim over the ancient Persian civilization as they did not give up zoarastrianism but expelled them from their homes who then took refuge in India. You too have no claim over the Indus civilization because that's our civilization not yours. You people are not even sure about you identify or where your ancestors came from. Some of you pride themselves as the children of foreign invaders rest are unsure about that so how can you claim to be from this land. We have claim on as far as Kandahar. Acharya Chanakya was a professor in Takshila University. This is our identity, what's yours?
 

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This website is powered by Srivastava Group, please ban any links to be posted on defence.pk. It only increases their page engagement which results in increased ranking for their website on Google search results.
 

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So tell me what proportion of the Pakistani population is the direct descendant of the islamic invaders and what proportion is the descendant of the religious converts?
You seriously cannot be that dense,
Pakistan's population is 232 million, in which logic would anyone think that you can have such a large transfer of population from other regions.

Obviously, most are sons and daughters of the soil, you idiot. Otherwise they all would be speaking and using a different language.
They speak Punjabi, Sindhi, Kashmiri, Pashto and Balochi, because that's who they are.

The non-South Asian immigrant groups make up a small proportion, otherwise the immigrants language would be the dominant language by now. why are all of you so damn stupid, WHY?
 

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This is hilarious I have never seen the word Turkish-Pakistani aggression used? hahaha that is a hilarious word I must say. The inventions here are to creative. To brotherly countries having intimate relationship is now being described as aggression. I guess someone is afraid which means this has certainly worked
 

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First of all I am not hateful. Secondly get your facts right, Indus civilization streched as far as rajasthan, Haryana and Gujarat. And Irani have no claim over the ancient Persian civilization as they did not give up zoarastrianism but expelled them from their homes who then took refuge in India. You too have no claim over the Indus civilization because that's our civilization not yours. You people are not even sure about you identify or where your ancestors came from. Some of you pride themselves as the children of foreign invaders rest are unsure about that so how can you claim to be from this land. We have claim on as far as Kandahar. Acharya Chanakya was a professor in Takshila University. This is our identity, what's yours?
Your own words - “it stretched as far as” in areas which are in India now which means the bulk was not India , in fact the ancient cities of Moejadaro, Harappa are all here in Pakistan. Anyone wishing to describe or study Indus civilization has to come and study areas that are 80% Pakistan now. I am sorry but this is our heritage and history not yours. Any student of archeology and history acknowledges it, but for you hateful idiots who now think that even Iran has no claim over Persia, there is no use of an argument - as hate does alter the brain so much that no rationale argument can work.
 
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Hilarious. So what what was his name Mohammad Abdul porus al pakistani?

Neither you have any heritage nor Identity. You even claim Indus civilization as your own when it has got nothing to do with Islam or muslims. And there's was no pakistan before 47. British made it to act as a buffer against Soviet invasion.
You are making an assumption without basis that anyone is claiming that indus valley civilisation had anything to do with Islam. The point here is that Indus valley as it stands is where we live, lived, continue to live(hopefully). Dont connect it with religion in this case. We definitely are (mostly) descendant from that civilisation. If you think we drove you out or snatched it from you. Then come take it... if you can.
 
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Gentleman, for nearly a decade I have articulated a simple fact. That India is a reification of the British Empire. The geographic terms Balkans, Scandanavia, Asia Minor exist. The Indian's indulge in plain fraud. They have appropriated a geographic term and now use that to construct a false narrative bordeering on illusions. Alexander never went to India for even a day - if by India we mean Republic of India. But these veggies from Ganga use that historical meaning of India to pelf our heritage.

A good analogy would be if Pakistan changed it's style to "Islamic Republic of Asia" like Ceylon changed it to Sri Lanka. Could Pakistan now styled as "Asia" make a grab for everything from Japan, China to Turkey as "Asian". This is exactly what these Ganga wrap sheets do as matter of course.

@Valar.

Simple Change the name of Pakistan to Indusstan OR Indostan ---------->that will launch Pakistan way ahead of India in international mindspace
 

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Simple Change the name of Pakistan to Indusstan OR Indostan ---------->that will launch Pakistan way ahead of India in international mindspace
Impossible. Changing the name of the Holy Koran would be easier. Millions of brain dead would go crazy. Most are brainwashed to think of that name as given by some Hadith.
 

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Indusstan OR Indostan
I would go for these styles -

  • Islamic Republic of Industana
  • Islamic Republic of Sindia
But all this is academic. When most Pakistan's won't even use the "brand Pakistan". The other day I was in a city called "Little Pakistan" in Northern England. I swear to you I saw "Kurdistan Restaurent, Kurdish Cuisine, Turkish Cuisine, Bengali Cuisine, Indian, Asian, Apna, Muslim, Desi" but not ONCE did I see "Pakistan".

If I was foreigner and did not know I would have thought the minorities in "Little Pakistan or Bradistan" were -

  • Indians
  • Kurds
  • Turks
  • Slovaks
  • Romanians
  • Bengalis
  • Poles
  • etc

The funniest part was I saw a My Lahore, Karachi Restaurent, Pakeeza Foods, Rawal Take away tagged as "Indian food". The one that took the piss was Jinnah Restaurent - yes you got it tagged as "Indian". Wtf???
 

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The people of the IVC were Hindus. Lol, so now Pakistanis on pdf are priding themselves for being Hindu descendants ???
 

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The people of the IVC were Hindus. Lol, so now Pakistanis on pdf are priding themselves for being Hindu descendants ???
No they were not Hindus. How can they have been Hindus when that term only got used as in the meaning of what we know today by English after 1700?????

Yes, there were Animist, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Vedic belief before advent of Islam. Hinduism as is followed in India came from the Indus Basin during the Vedic period then was forced on the aborginal, junglee, semi-naked savages of the Ganga Basin. Today you call them Hindus. Now you don't have to thank us for giving you your religion. Just something Gangus need to note.
 

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One of my best friend is Greek Cypriot, he served in the army,
sometimes he complains that the Greeks keep going over to the Turkish side for gambling and shopping, I think there are casino's on the Turkish Cypriot side.

He has mixed feelings about the conflict, wishes it was resolved, but they have land stuck on the other side, so there is also some anger.

Anyway, the point was, from what I know, this partnership is a joke,
India just wants to shit wherever it can, because I think they have no space left in their own country.
There is nothing to worry about, India is also getting involved, because of nudging by France, the French seem to think they are still a great power.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-27775327
The French are stoking and then milking India’s hate.
 

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