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As you said, there is no such network in Indian Kashmir. Nor in any other part of India - we don't have Hindu militants driving VBIEDs and such things - that's the last of our worries, and the world's. Such things only happen in muslim countries.

Hindu militants don't need to drive VBIED since they already have rule in Delhi

Taliban also would stop suicide attacks in Afghanistan after they would capture Kabul

Hence we don't see VBIED in India. Simple logic
Please don't mind but in India, people choose the government so politician instigating their sentiments to win elections makes sense......In Pakistan, Army chooses the government...and they are already anti-India so...no need to put India as deciding topic in the elections.

That is a very pajeet way of understanding which makes sense since you are one yourself

Anyways nope. India is never a factor in Pakistan in elections or in political discussions etc etc. We don't vote governments for being anti India even though we should
 

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Hindu militants don't need to drive VBIED since they already have rule in Delhi

Taliban also would stop suicide attacks in Afghanistan after they would capture Kabul

Hence we don't see that in India. Simple logic

When Taliban was in power, only three countries even recognized them - three countries with great affinity for terrorists. Your feeble attempts to equate muslim terrorists and India are noted, and will win you some brownie points, but the fact remains that the world hates muslim terrorists, while India is a normal country like any other.

Your terrorists are hunted down and killed, our government has friendly relations with the whole world. You can try to pretend that eVErything is equal equal, but deep down you are smart enough to know the bitter truth.
 

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When Taliban was in power, only three countries even recognized them - three countries with great affinity for terrorists. Your feeble attempts to equate muslim terrorists and India are noted, and will win you some brownie points, but the fact remains that the world hates muslim terrorists, while India is a normal country like any other.

Your terrorists are hunted down and killed, our government has friendly relations with the whole world. You can try to pretend that eVErything is equal equal, but deep down you are smart enough to know the bitter truth.

Your government is desperately trying to talk to Taliban as you type all this BS

I don't need to say any further. As for in the past yes we recognized Taliban government since that was in our interest. Nothing wrong with that

So the thing is you don't need to ram cars with explosives when you have the government. There is nothing really something to be proud of
 

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Pakistan has always been reluctant to openly name India for hundreds of terrorist attacks in Pakistan during the last 21 years. In fact, both Americans and Indians were jointly launching these terrorist attacks in Pakistan from Afghanistan. They had created a huge terrorist infrastructure in Afghanistan that was used to train and support terrorists of TTP and Baloch terror. Indians even sent their in-service military officers as terrorist masterminds into Pakistan. One of those terrorists (i.e. Indian Navy Commander Kulbhushan Jadhav) was also caught by Pakistani forces. Americans sent their terrorists in disguise of civilian contractors of Black Water. We lost tens of thousands of Pakistani lives in these terrorist attacks. On top of that these evil countries used to consistently blame Pakistan of supporting terrorism in this whole region. But now the situation is changing. Pakistan is coming forward and offering solid evidence to expose India's use of terrorism as state policy.
Now that coward terrorist Indians have fled from Afghanistan when their evil partners-in-terrorism American soldiers were fleeing out of that country, it's now the time to punish Indians for massively using terrorism against Pakistani people in last 21 years.

It has now been established through investigations that the recent terrorist attack in Lahore was also planned by Indian infamous Indian agency RAW and has been carried out by its agents. Pakistan has traced all links and money trail that was used by Indians to carry out this terrorist attack. Pakistan should present all that evidence at FATF and other appropriate forums. But more importantly Pakistan needs to bluntly speak out at the highest level (at PM level) about Indian terrorism against Pakistan. We need to call a spade a spade.

This Indian terrorist attack in Lahore, however, reveals a few important aspects.
1. Indians no more have local assets to launch terrorist attacks in Punjab, especially Lahore. To carry out this terrorist attack in Lahore, Indians had to cultivate a person who used to live in the UAE. That terrorist carried out this attach by using some local people. All of them have already been arrested by Pakistani LEAs.
2. Musharraf allowed American terrorists of Black Water to roam around in whole of Pakistan including extremely sensitive areas. One of those terrorists (i.e. Raymond Davis) was caught after he killed two Pakistanis in broad daylight in Lahore. Those American terrorists created countless number of terrorist cells in Pakistan, many of them sleeper cells. Now it appears that all those terrorist cells have already been busted.
3. The security mechanism in mega cities such as Karachi and Lahore is very effective. On top of that, a systematic coordination between our intelligence agencies of Pakistan has proved very effective and efficient. The sheer speed by which this latest Indian terrorist cell was busted shows how efficient that mechanism really is.
 

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Despite this tweet from the PM, a lot of things are being implied here, namely the fact that this investigation had taken time before making a public statement and the fact all evidence was collected jointly by the civil and military investigations as opposed to individual investigations as we had done before. Putting civil and military officials on the same page will expedite the process and take a lot of the skin off of India Sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan.
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After an in-depth investigation, Moeed Yousuf issued a public statement to the media after solid evidence emerged that India sponsors terrorism on the ground. An attempt was made to make the evidencing of this more solid by conducting an unprecedented cyberattack on Pakistani intelligence agencies on the day prior to this attack in order to stall progress on the investigation and let enough time to delete the evidence to be lost, but we have a better system on how to deal with the hybrid war situation and failed India attempts at reaching and obtaining the evidence. The evidence we have is so solid that we are seeing comments from the PM's tweet. This is a great accomplishment for us to expose India's terrorist activities.
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Modi found himself under the bushel of the congress party when the judge of France claimed that Rafal bribes had taken place. Moreover, the Indian CDS threat to us has helped relieve the pressure on Pakistan, but Indians should recall that it is not 1971 anymore, and any misadventure with Pakistan will be too costly for them.
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The Indians fled Afghanistan and left billions of dollars of terror investments against Pakistan due to the lack of support from the Americans and their airbases in the region to safeguard them. In the past, Indians have been in contact with the Taliban but they have given them the middle finger, the same attitude as Indians have shown towards them. Since the dirty game the Indians played against Pakistan from Afghanistan twenty years ago, they have no chance of ever playing the game again. In the region, India has also failed in a big way just like the US.

I think it's fair to say that following the news of "collectivity", its fair to say that Indians f4k38 up today.
 
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Kashmiri militants simply don't have the ability to pull off such a big and complicated attack

Conducting a vehicle bound IED attack requires a whole strong network of militants which simply doesn't exist in IOK
but it does exist across the LOC
 

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Nearly impossible to cross over and go such a big attack unless your soldiers at LOC are smoking charas
It's a settled matter, the perp's identity is known, his family are on record. A logical conclusion was reached in this investigation.

They really did step it up with that one. It is what compelled the IAF to send a message with Balakot.

Also, going by all the recent happenings such as this one, Karachi stock exchange, the steady stream of reports of attacks in Baluchistan and the tribal areas all being attributed to India/RAW, it would appear India have tremendous reach all over Pakistan and get away with it constantly.

Could it be that Pak have other problems/enemies apart from just one to your east ?
 

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It's a settled matter, the perp's identity is known, his family are on record. A logical conclusion was reached in this investigation.

They really did step it up with that one. It is what compelled the IAF to send a message with Balakot.

Also, going by all the recent happenings such as this one, Karachi stock exchange, the steady stream of reports of attacks in Baluchistan and the tribal areas all being attributed to India/RAW, it would appear India have tremendous reach all over Pakistan and get away with it constantly.

Could it be that Pak have other problems/enemies apart from just one to your east ?

Lets not move from the topic here

Pulwama was a clear false flag. I think we all can agree on that
 

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Lets not move from the topic here

Pulwama was a clear false flag. I think we all can agree on that
I do not agree but sure.

About this one, what might RAW's strategic calculus have been with setting off a low intensity blast ? How layered is Hafiz Saeed's security, is this the best anyone could do if it was truly about sending him and the Pak establishment a message ?

Quite a feeble limp-wristed message if that was indeed heir plan.

I think Pak do have other problems apart from just India, we're just a convenient scapegoat because it sells easy among the awam.
 

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I do not agree but sure.

About this one, what might RAW's strategic calculus have been with setting off a low intensity blast ? How layered is Hafiz Saeed's security, is this the best anyone could do if it was truly about sending him and the Pak establishment a message ?

Quite a feeble limp-wristed message if that was indeed heir plan.

I think Pak do have other problems apart from just India, we're just a convenient scapegoat because it sells easy among the awam.

You don't agree but you simply have no other way to defend it. It has false flag written all over it


As for Hafiz Saeed attack. It was just to give a message to Pakistan and Hafiz Saeed. The intension never was to kill Hafiz Saeed since India knows he isn't there at his home in Johar town
 

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You don't agree but you simply have no other way to defend it. It has false flag written all over it
You're unwilling to debate it here saying it is derailing the topic at hand.

As for Hafiz Saeed attack. It was just to give a message to Pakistan and Hafiz Saeed. The intension never was to kill Hafiz Saeed since India knows he isn't there at his home in Johar town
That does sound within the realm of possibility.

What do you think your leadership will do about it now that even the PM is tweeting about it ?

Should we expect retaliatory attacks here in India, what kind of target would pick here as response to the Johar Town attack ?
 

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You're unwilling to debate it here saying it is derailing the topic at hand.

I simply said there is no reason to not believe that Pulwama was not a false flag. It had false flag written all over it


That does sound within the realm of possibility.

What do you think your leadership will do about it now that even the PM is tweeting about it ?

Should we expect retaliatory attacks here in India, what kind of target would pick here as response to the Johar Town attack ?

As for the question you asked. I don't think so. Current military and civilian leadership is too docile and pacifist. At best they would whine on media and in front of West that you were behind these attacks. West obviously being your ally wouldn't care about all the whining like before
 

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All the proofs MUST be presented in front of the International media even though we ALL know that hypocrisy and double standards were used previously when it comes to dealing with legitimate grievances concerning Pakistan … and IF this time around no action is taken by them , then Pakistan has the right to respond the best way possible …
 

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