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We need to be able to use the indigenous Astra missile on the Su30s and across other fighter aircraft like the MiG-29 for better performance of air power," he said.
For usually snotty IAF , Astra BVR missile has to be real stuff for an IAF chief to come in public and demand it's early and across platforms who are already using latest russian BVRs. So congratulation to the DRDO scientist who managed to satisfy hard to impress IAF brass.
 

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For usually snotty IAF , Astra BVR missile has to be real stuff for an IAF chief to come in public and demand it's early and across platforms who are already using latest russian BVRs. So congratulation to the DRDO scientist who managed to satisfy hard to impress IAF brass.
India is trying to achieve self sufficiency in weapons since 1947 but still importing, I am happy at their failure
 

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India is trying to achieve self sufficiency in weapons since 1947 but still importing, I am happy at their failure
Well, yes that's expected, but you are also depressed at India's access to global weapon market. Astra missile must be very good for IAF lobbying for it instead of some imported maal they often crave for.
 

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Well, yes that's expected, but you are also depressed at India's access to global weapon market.
India's global access and huge economy only means that India is at risk of importing, importing and importing. India has had 5 decades to be self-sufficient and look where it stands: still heavily importing and heavily dependant on foreign hardware. Just take an example of India's Tejas fighter plane. It's still in limbo whereas PAF's JF-17 project with China started much later than India's Tejas and already JF-17 is combat proven/combat veteran fighter plane, which PAF will eventually have in the region of 250. Pakistan now enjoys access to some of China's most unique and unknown weapons which - like it or not - the IAF quietly fears. China is actively working on even better hardware which we will soon see enter service.
 

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India is trying to achieve self sufficiency in weapons since 1947 but still importing, I am happy at their failure
It has not. It has had state run monopolies like ofb wait on ToT, assembly work. Those companies are started to face competition. DRDO has improved a lot of late. Things are looking up for both aerospace and defence in India, though not perfect. More has been done in the last 10 years than independence to the 90s.
 
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Before Pakistani Warriors go crazy, this is not 1st Indian Forcee had similar thing they always say this to get more attention and money.
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Majority of current indian fighter crafts are more than enough to take on and challenge PAF so instead of boosting Pakistan and solely being stuck on one day should move forward and improve and learn from that.
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IAF lost a skirmish to PAF not the war
India didnt expected retaliation from Pakistan, and they were just simply not ready.
These 36 Rafale may not be game changer but can definitely be game changer again PAF until Block 3 with long range BVR is fully operational
 

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Finally some indian talking sense. Unlike their keyboard warrior here. But it will take maybe Indian at least a decade to do that. So PAF has a 10 years breathing space.
India already has started indigenisation process for planes with MWF already in prototype stage. It will be a fully indigenous plane similar to Gripen E but slightly bigger. India also is indigenising radars and will have indigenous radar by 2022. India is already having BVRAAM indigenously made. It will be by 2025 that India will have ready indigenous solution in almost all technology
 

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India already has started indigenisation process for planes with MWF already in prototype stage. It will be a fully indigenous plane similar to Gripen E but slightly bigger. India also is indigenising radars and will have indigenous radar by 2022. India is already having BVRAAM indigenously made. It will be by 2025 that India will have ready indigenous solution in almost all technology
Indigenous is one thing. To reach world standard is another thing.
 

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Indigenous is one thing. To reach world standard is another thing.
What do you mean by world standard? India is not some rag tag country without technology. When India makes anything indigenous, it will already be in world standard. India would rather take more time than to make substandard equipments
 

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The guy just ruined all the fun ! We were counting on shooting down rafale and taking down s400 launchers as soon as they were operational....

Now this guy said this and ruined all the fun.... If would have beem twice as much fun if they had stick with modi's idea of rafale being a super weapon to win India a supremecy in skies over pakistan.

Lol ho hee gya
 

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Don’t believe what IAF Chief says. They are definitely preparing to level the score. This time it won’t be possible for us to jam their radars and communication systems which played a vital role in getting desired results. Don’t underestimate IAF. They have full support of Israel and US.
 

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Don’t believe what IAF Chief says. They are definitely preparing to level the score. This time it won’t be possible for us to jam their radars and communication systems which played a vital role in getting desired results. Don’t underestimate IAF. They have full support of Israel and US.
True they are preparing and Pakistan should not underestimate them and should work to keep capabilities to counter anything which India can bring in war.
 

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