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Now I know why.


haha given your previous markers went hilariously sideways I say good luck.

Any smart/intelligent analysis to make? Or, highschool level taunts?
Really? Virtually everything I've said about Covid has come to fruition. I cannot help folks with selective amnesia.
 

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Really? Virtually everything I've said about Covid has come to fruition. I cannot help folks with selective amnesia.
Apart from rhetoric and trolls, I haven't listened to much of your predictions. But then again, who am I talking to, a guy who said Serum Institute India is a sweatshop :lol: and we are making meds/vacs in sweatshops. That's the level of saltiness I am dealing with.

Look man, I understand you guys feel bad about some Indians taunting, but there are a lot of things you can get back at us on, but opening petty threads like these will only make you look even small.

Look at this thread alone, you're saying India is giving priority to other countries over our own. But in reality, we already have given priority to ourselves and acquired vaccines necessary for us SII alone has more than 100 million doses stocked, produces 5000 vials a minute, we already purchased 1.6 billion vaccine doses, largest in the world. With already 1.5 million vaccinated in the last 7 days, we are already scaling up.

Now you can continue to pray we fail that's your freedom, but you don't have to air it.
 

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Apart from rhetoric and trolls, I haven't listened to much of your predictions. But then again, who am I talking to, a guy who said Serum Institute India is a sweatshop :lol: and we are making meds/vacs in sweatshops. That's the level of saltiness I am dealing with.

Look man, I understand you guys feel bad about some Indians taunting, but there are a lot of things you can get back at us on, but opening petty threads like these will only make you look even small.

Look at this thread alone, you're saying India is giving priority to other countries over our own. But in reality, we already have given priority to ourselves and acquired vaccines necessary for us SII alone has more than 100 million doses stocked, produces 5000 vials a minute, we already purchased 1.6 billion vaccine doses, largest in the world. With already 1.5 million vaccinated in the last 7 days, we are already scaling up.

Now you can continue to pray we fail that's your freedom, but you don't have to air it.
I declared India as the pharmaceutical sweatshop of the world based on evidence. If conditions are so bad that fires are breaking out and people are actually dying, then questions should be asked about operating standards. Go question SII, not me.

It is a typical nepotism run family business in south Asia, dysregulated and rubber stamped without the same checks and balances we get in the west.

You should consider reforms to get these industries out of the clutches of family-led monopolies and into mainstream regulated environs.

I don't expect you to understand this stuff because I doubt you've spent a minute in western industries that you might know any alternative life. The "family run cornershop model" is the best you people know.


"Serum Institute also had an unusual advantage: it is family-owned and doesn’t have to answer to shareholders, and so can manoeuvre more easily to changing market conditions."

A bit more cornershop amateurism, further explaining why the Indian mentality lags behind that of other vaccine producers, even though India has the necessary raw materials:

" July 2, ICMR director-general Balram Bhargava issued a controversial letter asking institutes participating in the clinical trials of a vaccine candidate developed by Bharat Biotech to conclude their tests, deliver the trial data and manufacture the vaccine by August 15, India’s Independence Day. "

Never mind safety, due diligence etc....vee mussht produce by phiphtheen Augusht! Surgical strike by big pharma on porkistan mussshhht heppen!

And of course, the usual Bollywood drama concerning allegations over side effects, instead of adopting a more professional and transparent approach:


"Despite this, the company’s threat to counter-sue the volunteer caused outrage among India’s public health and scientific communities. They said that an allegation like that called for transparency, not high-handedness. The “blatant attempt at intimidation of a clinical trial participant” was an attempt by Serum Institute to “divert public scrutiny of its trial”, said the AlI India Drug Action Network, a watchdog organisation, in a statement.

Equally alarming, critics said, was the way the episode came to light: only after a volunteer threatened to go to court. This was in stark contrast to how adverse events in the same vaccine’s trials were handled in other parts of the world."

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Yes, I know, your wonderful free media highlights these issues and the simple presence of your magical free media is enough to make you better than China and absolve you of any responsibility to fix the actual problems.

The whole industry stinks of amateurism, short cuts and cover ups. Reform is needed otherwise India will always have the cheap labour but will continue to lag behind in terms of outcomes and actual quality.

Sweatshop is a justifiable analogy in this context.
 

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I have said this in another thread and I am putting it here too- Absolute hatred corrupts ones critical thinking absolutely. This thread is a prime example of that.

People creating threads with no other purpose but to troll. Calling SII a sweatshop and Indian vaccine prog a failure is nothing but hatred spilling out in abundance.

It brings to fore one fact blindly followed by useless trolls- Everything related to India is bad and everything related to Pakistan and China is always good.
 

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I have said this in another thread and I am putting it here too- Absolute hatred corrupts ones critical thinking absolutely. This thread is a prime example of that.

People creating threads with no other purpose but to troll. Calling SII a sweatshop and Indian vaccine prog a failure is nothing but hatred spilling out in abundance.

It brings to fore one fact blindly followed by useless trolls- Everything related to India is bad and everything related to Pakistan and China is always good.
It doesn't matter Mark my words Pakistan is begging for vaccines from China
Pakistan will never be able to vaccinate their population like India ever
 

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I have said this in another thread and I am putting it here too- Absolute hatred corrupts ones critical thinking absolutely. This thread is a prime example of that.

People creating threads with no other purpose but to troll. Calling SII a sweatshop and Indian vaccine prog a failure is nothing but hatred spilling out in abundance.

It brings to fore one fact blindly followed by useless trolls- Everything related to India is bad and everything related to Pakistan and China is always good.
A fire kills 5 people during a pandemic rollout, Indian media itself questions safety protocols, SII threatens to sue a trial participant for demanding answers over his side effects....and you're having a dig at me?

I'm just the messenger. Feel free to counter the above points if you feel necessary, but don't have a go at the author of a simple opinion piece citing Indian media references. I thought you folks believed in free media.
10 lakh taking shot in 6 days ....da bacha.

Haven't we clashed on basic mathematics before? I'm sure your name is familiar.

Of course you will vaccinate a higher RAW NUMBER because you have MORE VACCINATORS because you have a higher population than the countries mentioned....by a huge amount.

What matters is vaccinations per fixed number of population (I.e. rate of vaccination per capita). So by all means, spout the raw numbers to your heart's content. Educated readers of this thread will understand why the BBC graphic in the OP has you at 0.1 per 100.
 
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It doesn't matter Mark my words Pakistan is begging for vaccines from China
China has promised them half a million doses by Jan end. Then they will make a plan to go about the methodology of deciding who gets these. But, fact remains that India is bad.

India has already gifted 5 million doses to few countries. India has done this to fool these countries since they don’t have any brains and wisdom which is the property of two countries in this part of the world.

Very soon fanboys will be here in droves to declare Indian vaccine a poison and Chinese vaccine an elixir of life. 😜😜

Few experts here would recommend that SII is a family run business hence can’t do anything ethically. Only publicly listed companies can do anything worthwhile. Most hilarious would be when they link Bollywood and SII as completely in context comparisons.
 

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A fire kills 5 people during a pandemic rollout, Indian media itself questions safety protocols, SII threatens to sue a trial participant for demanding answers over his side effects....and you're having a dig at me?

I'm just the messenger. Feel free to counter the above points if you feel necessary, but don't have a go at the author of a simple opinion piece citing Indian media references. I thought you folks believed in free media.

10 lakh taking shot in 6 days ....da bacha.

Haven't we clashed on basic mathematics before? I'm sure your name is familiar.

Of course you will vaccinate a higher RAW NUMBER because you have MORE VACCINATORS because you have a higher population than the countries mentioned....by a huge amount.

What matters is vaccinations per fixed number of population (I.e. rate of vaccination per capita). So by all means, spout the raw numbers to your heart's content. Educated readers of this thread will understand why the BBC graphic in the OP has you at 0.1 per 100.
0.11 today
China has promised them half a million doses by Jan end.

India has already gifted 5 million doses to few countries.

Very soon fanboys will be here in droves to declare Indian vaccine a poison and Chinese vaccine an elixir of life. 😜😜

Few experts here would recommend that SII is a family run business hence can’t do anything ethically. Only publicly listed companies can do anything worthwhile. Most hilarious would be when they link Bollywood and SII as completely in context comparisons.
This is who they are buying/begging from lol


Lets see what happens to the pure muslims
Apart from rhetoric and trolls, I haven't listened to much of your predictions. But then again, who am I talking to, a guy who said Serum Institute India is a sweatshop :lol: and we are making meds/vacs in sweatshops. That's the level of saltiness I am dealing with.

Look man, I understand you guys feel bad about some Indians taunting, but there are a lot of things you can get back at us on, but opening petty threads like these will only make you look even small.

Look at this thread alone, you're saying India is giving priority to other countries over our own. But in reality, we already have given priority to ourselves and acquired vaccines necessary for us SII alone has more than 100 million doses stocked, produces 5000 vials a minute, we already purchased 1.6 billion vaccine doses, largest in the world. With already 1.5 million vaccinated in the last 7 days, we are already scaling up.

Now you can continue to pray we fail that's your freedom, but you don't have to air it.

 
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China has promised them half a million doses by Jan end. Then they will make a plan to go about the methodology of deciding who gets these. But, fact remains that India is bad.

India has already gifted 5 million doses to few countries. India has done this to fool these countries since they don’t have any brains and wisdom which is the property of two countries in this part of the world.

Very soon fanboys will be here in droves to declare Indian vaccine a poison and Chinese vaccine an elixir of life. 😜😜

Few experts here would recommend that SII is a family run business hence can’t do anything ethically. Only publicly listed companies can do anything worthwhile. Most hilarious would be when they link Bollywood and SII as completely in context comparisons.
Keep going :-)

We love it when Indian "articulate, moderate, secular, progressive, non-bhakt, educated, professional" pdf-ers can't control their urge to reveal their true underlying pathetic inferiority complex-driven Pakistan hatred. All too predictable.
0.11 today

This is who they are buying/begging from lol


Lets see what happens to the pure muslims



What happened to the stockpiles amassed/pre-ordered by the secular republic which are now being churned out at the handsome rate of 0.11/100? Did Modi gain some more Bhutanese credit today instead of vaccinating your grandma?

He screwed up the lockdown (which I have posted on many times in the past, only to have my conclusions reaffirmed by various independent post-mortem assessments) and now he's screwing up a straightforward vaccination program for the "world's pharmacy". But hey, at least the Maldives will give him a thumbs up on Twitter.
 
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Meanwhile news has come that India is spreading poison to few more countries. I hope these countries gain access to the foremost experts on COVID right on this thread and take a decision quickly and stop this hostile act of India.

Keep going :-)
Rather than questioning motive of educated Indians, may I request your comments on motive of this thread. The very basic intention is nothing but to troll Indian contribution in fighting COVID and helping others too. But look at the comments of FMs. Anything Indian has to be bad. You get what you ask for.

My apologies if I have hurt your sensibilities.
 
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