Weapons are necessary when you start losing so many soldiers, unless you say, the lives are not important. Usage of weapons sometimes stop the bloodshed. It is also required when you lose a Colonel rank CO, and your majors/ captains are injured.India will avoid using weapons that would escalate the conflict. It is not in India's strategic interest to accelerate China's ambitions.
India will not and should not be worried about the perception of cowardice from other parties. This will be the least of India's concern.Weapons are necessary when you start losing so many soldiers, unless you say, the lives are not important. Usage of weapons sometimes stop the bloodshed. It is also required when you lose a Colonel rank CO, and your majors/ captains are injured.
I saw a few pics where Chinese are collecting Indian weapons that your soldiers left behind. I see it as cowardice, not on the part of your soldiers, but your political leadership that made them look coward in front of the entire world. You guys were in equal numbers, could have fought, but the political decision wasn't clear.
Regarding Chinese ambitions, it's just a matter of time. They will take the land by force, or by political maneuvering. There's a significant area India has lost to China in the last couple of years, whether your political leadership accepts it or not. It is your choice to give away land in small pieces, or fight for what you believe is yours bravely.
Anyway, it's up to you to decide as a nation.
There were no 'ifs' and 'buts' in my opinion.China will eat India anyway. No contest. Just get ready to handover some more territory. No ifs and buts.
You had weapons, but you didn't use them.India will not and should not be worried about the perception of cowardice from other parties. This will be the least of India's concern.
Looking at the pictures released by PLA, I thought that the Chinese were better equipped even for that non-lethal shove/push match. Indian side was simply throwing stones, while Chinese had proper shields and other gear. If reports are to be believed, then Indian troops in that area were also not well fed and sheltered last year. I do not have the tactical details of the confrontation, so I cannot comment about why the scenario panned out the way it did. Regardless, India will strive to keep the confrontation non-lethal for as long as possible.
Eventually, the Chinese will have to escalate to make significant progress. At that time, India will (or rather should IMO) confront China the best way it can. It could very well be that China will take territory, as is often the case when a superior military force confronts a relatively inferior force. But it is also likely that India will make China pay for its prize; that could and should help China's more superior enemies
There were no 'ifs' and 'buts' in my opinion.
As far as I'm concerned, ego be damnedYou had weapons, but you didn't use them.
Chinese had weapons too, they didn't use them either.
However, in the ensuing events, you lost your CO, nearly more than a dozen other soldiers, and your ego. But you didn't use your weapons, in fact left them behind for Chinese to collect and return back to you.
I tried to keep your soldiers respect intact and put the blame on your polity, but if that is not cowardice, what is?
Sorry, it doesn't make sense to lose a land piece by piece, every few months, and do nothing, unless you don't want to lose all of it at once.
Regarding China's more superior enemies, they will definitely help you with all the words in their dictionaries when time comes.
Fake news India media lying again and again, from all the videos and pictures released, PLA had only steel rods and shields, and probably used stones, definitely not barbed wires
I forsee Sino defeat. its only a matter of time. supreme vedick techlology.should this be posted in funny section???
oOoOoOoOoHh mista bad@ss over here (emphasis on "@ss"), China's in real trouble now, I mean just look at him, those glasses man, and that beard, China's entire PLA must be shaking in their boots!!!
looks like he's screaming at his wife outta sheer frustration, "I've told you so many times, SIZE DOESN'T MATTER"!!!!!
man, another my uncle in the army, I knew what's going on. my high level source in the army tells me this and thatActually this is stupid.
I have never seen trishul or long weapon used in hand to hand combat on mountains cause of weight.
Just get some light weight steel Base ball bats with heavy tip at the end. Would be 1000 % times more effective than long weapons.
I guess the factory guys never been to mountains. Should have forced these suckers to carry these uphill and than use it if the person is within 5 feet.
There's a reason Gurkha carry small Knive instead of big axe etc.
And people who say army ran away , it's not entirely true ,
I was in leh 8yrs back and I got to talk with soldiers. They told me very depressing story.
They said whenever a confrontation happens Chinese wireless and within day the backup comes in multi wheels big Trucks and outnumber them quickly while Indian side takes days to gather in number cause we dont have these type of vehicles.
And 1 more interesting thing I learned while talking to them was that Govt specially avoid sending sikh units on China border. As they are considered very unpredictable if they get insulted and Chinese r known to be very insulting during confrontations. So only those units r fielded who follow the orders to the letter.
Mahindra does do R&D on military vehicles, M4 is Kalyani’s JV with Denel.
you do know that 1 can chat with soldiers.man, another my uncle in the army, I knew what's going on. my high level source in the army tells me this and that
By the way, why you need such weapons? A 23 year old valor Jawan single handedly killed 12 PLA soldier with bare hands and dragged another 6 with him down the cliff