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Indian engineering students can't think as high as Chinese and Russians: Report

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    Indian engineering students can't think as high as Chinese and Russians: Report
    ET Online|
    Updated: Apr 04, 2018, 05.28 PM IST
    NEW DELHI: India may have a large number of youth but most of them are inadequately skilled for jobs. It's truer in case of engineering education. IITians sure have impressed the world but a large number of students passing out of ordinary colleges are not even employable, let alone comparing with their counterparts from advanced countries.

    A study has found that Russian and Chinese engineering students are better than those in India. Indian students make substantial gains in mathematics and critical thinking skills in the first two years of their education compared to their counterparts in China and Russia, but their overall higher-order thinking skills are substantially lower than the Chinese and Russians. This is the preliminary finding of learning outcome assessment of undergraduate engineering students conducted by Stanford University and the World Bank, according to an Indian Express report.

    The World Bank and Stanford University surveyed roughly 5,000 first-year and third-year B.Tech students from 200 randomly-selected public and private engineering institutes last year. These 200 institutes did not include the Indian Institutes of Technology or the IITs. Similar learning assessments were also conducted for engineering students in China and Russia.Detailed findings of this survey, which is part of the Technical Education Quality Improvement Programme (TEQIP) supported by the World Bank, will be presented formally to the HRD Ministry this week, says the report.

    More than a decade ago, a McKinsey report said just a quarter of engineers in India were actually employable. Of late, some other studies put it at less than 20%. Last year, a survey by employability assessment firm Aspiring Minds said 95% of Indian engineers can’t even code. Though graduates from India's premiere engineering colleges such as the IITs are still in demand, it is the thousands of other engineering colleges and ITIs which churn out millions of graduates every year whose employability is questionable.

    The blame doesn't lie with the students but the large number of engineering colleges mushrooming in the country in the past decade. These colleges often lack even required infrastructure and faculty. Old problems of low-quality education and outdated curricula have become more pronounced with automation, artificial intelligence and other emerging technologies reshaping businesses and industry.

    India's much-touted demographic dividend, which can help India compete with China in manufacturing in near future, will turn into a burden if employability of graduates does not go up. Prime Minister Narendra Modi's dream project of 'Make in India' is hobbled by lack of employable graduates. The project aspires to increase manufacturing capacity in India and generate 100 million jobs by 2022. That's too difficult with the kind of graduates our engineering colleges churn out.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...chinese-and-russians/articleshow/63612439.cms
     
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    Have been saying this all along :lol: :rofl: :omghaha:.
     
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  3. beijingwalker

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    No wonder Indian universities rank so low in global university rankings.
     
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    Dont you know yet ?
    Indians are pseudo intellectuals..

    Just look at US what indian whispering did with Americano... Basically indian and israeli lobby are behind Mr.trump Administration .. And all their pathetic strategies would back fire.



    INDIA IS LOOKING TO CAPTURE SOME OF US INDUSTRIES FROM CHINA.. :omghaha: WHILE SUGGESTING THE STUPID STRATEGIES.. WHICH WOULD DEFINATLY HARM TO USA.
     
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    No surprise at all.
     
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    I have first hand experience of this with Indians. Going all the way back to high school and throughout university years.

    They are mostly all talk and bragging.
     
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    I hope you realize that what this report actually show is Indian students are smarter, it's just that their educational
    infrastructure suck.

    From the article above,

    "Indian students make substantial gains in mathematics and critical thinking skills in the first two years of their education compared to their counterparts in China and Russia,"

    ......The blame doesn't lie with the students but the large number of engineering colleges mushrooming in the country in the past decade. These colleges often lack even required infrastructure and faculty.
     
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    When it comes to earning money and becoming CEOs, Chinese prefer becoming fake monks in US and Pakistanis prefer being cab drivers. Don't know their high IQ prevent them from earning big bucks.
     
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    True. Nothing new. In fact the new study shows the employable Indian engineer grads at 20%, mower than a report that came out 10 years ago.

    Lol, can you read? They show higher skills in first year but when they graduate, they are not employable because most likely most cheated their way or paid for their diploma. They can't survive in the real working world.
     
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    LOL indeed. Can YOU Read and understand what you have read ? :cheesy:

    THIS is the reason they say for the poor education.

    " These colleges often lack even required infrastructure and faculty.

    First get and english education so that you can at least understand what you read. Try aiming low first.

    Only problem is that these marks will not get you an admission into an engineer college :cheesy:

    That requires an entrance exam.
     
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    What does it have anything to do with US? China is the best place to become CEOs and engineers today in the world.
     
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    Must be the side effects from excessive use of Cow-ka Cowla.
     
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    What about Axact university and doing bachelors in 6 months and Masters in a month?

    ??? Source?