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India is engaging in psychological warfare by claiming that its army is preparing for winter as tensions between China and India rise, observers said, noting that neither the transportation nor the supplies of the Indian army in the glacier-covered region is as good as India claims.

The Indian army is ready to be deployed in the harsh winter months as it has stocked up all essential supplies, including food, clothing and fuel for soldiers in Ladakh, Indian Major Gen. Arvind Kapoor was cited by ANI as saying on Tuesday.

Kapoor also said that India's logistics infrastructure is so smartly built that any formation coming from the outside can join the units seamlessly and be effective.

"India is engaging in psychological warfare and wants to portray itself as tough to pacify its people. However, its infrastructure construction to the Ladakh area and ability to conduct large-scale operations in winter, and to supply frontline soldiers are not as good as it claims," Qian Feng, director of the research department at the National Strategy Institute of Tsinghua University in Beijing, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

Although the Indian army has gained rich experience in stationing or having very small operation in high, cold glacier covered regions, its non-combat death rate in these areas remains high, Qian said.

"Weather and terrain in Ladakh are the major challenges for large-scale military operations in winter, which requires smooth and quick logistical support and medical supplies," Qian said, noting that India is short in these areas.

Transportation infrastructure is another factor that limits the Indian army. There are no complete railways to the Ladakh area, and the roads are not good enough to swiftly transfer soldiers. The Indian army uses military transport planes to fortify the number of soldiers and tanks to the border areas.

Hindustan Times has reported since 2019 that India has sharpened its focus on scaling up infrastructure along the border, and set a target of three years to complete all 61 strategic road projects along its northern frontier.

After the skirmish in Galwan Valley, two Indian soldiers died in accidents in "constructing a bridge" in the area, the India Express reported.

China has an advantage in logistical support, transportation and infrastructure construction in its northwest region, observers said, noting that the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has organized a large-scale operation featuring thousands of paratroopers and armored vehicles to the Tibet Autonomous Region from Central China's Hubei Province. The entire process was completed in just a few hours, demonstrating China's capability to rapidly reinforce border defenses when necessary.

 
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If our soldiers can man the posts round the year in Siachin and not freeze to death there then what makes you think they will die in Ladakh?
Siachin is very cold I admit it, but it is only manned by brigade sized formation in a very small area. The LAC is 4000kms and the troop deployments are dispersed in inaccessible regions. Regarding Ladakh there is no SALTORO ridge dividing the two armies, your infrastructure is very poor viz a viz the Chinese.
 

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India is engaging in psychological warfare by claiming that its army is preparing for winter as tensions between China and India rise, observers said, noting that neither the transportation nor the supplies of the Indian army in the glacier-covered region is as good as India claims.

The Indian army is ready to be deployed in the harsh winter months as it has stocked up all essential supplies, including food, clothing and fuel for soldiers in Ladakh, Indian Major Gen. Arvind Kapoor was cited by ANI as saying on Tuesday.

Kapoor also said that India's logistics infrastructure is so smartly built that any formation coming from the outside can join the units seamlessly and be effective.

"India is engaging in psychological warfare and wants to portray itself as tough to pacify its people. However, its infrastructure construction to the Ladakh area and ability to conduct large-scale operations in winter, and to supply frontline soldiers are not as good as it claims," Qian Feng, director of the research department at the National Strategy Institute of Tsinghua University in Beijing, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

Although the Indian army has gained rich experience in stationing or having very small operation in high, cold glacier covered regions, its non-combat death rate in these areas remains high, Qian said.

"Weather and terrain in Ladakh are the major challenges for large-scale military operations in winter, which requires smooth and quick logistical support and medical supplies," Qian said, noting that India is short in these areas.

Transportation infrastructure is another factor that limits the Indian army. There are no complete railways to the Ladakh area, and the roads are not good enough to swiftly transfer soldiers. The Indian army uses military transport planes to fortify the number of soldiers and tanks to the border areas.

Hindustan Times has reported since 2019 that India has sharpened its focus on scaling up infrastructure along the border, and set a target of three years to complete all 61 strategic road projects along its northern frontier.

After the skirmish in Galwan Valley, two Indian soldiers died in accidents in "constructing a bridge" in the area, the India Express reported.

China has an advantage in logistical support, transportation and infrastructure construction in its northwest region, observers said, noting that the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has organized a large-scale operation featuring thousands of paratroopers and armored vehicles to the Tibet Autonomous Region from Central China's Hubei Province. The entire process was completed in just a few hours, demonstrating China's capability to rapidly reinforce border defenses when necessary.

Global Times is as usual being way too generous to the Indians ... the more accurate title of this article should be : India winter war supplies and logistics are zero.
 

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Commendable patriotism but you need to have dosh to support your egos. Rough estimate is 100 crore rupees per day just to sustain the line of defense on once tranquil LAC.


The Chinese would blast these forward Indian positions to smithereens with artillery fire before a Chinese offensive would ever begin ... indeed, this is what they also did in 1962. Have the Indians not learned a thing about mountain warfare?
 

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The Chinese would blast these forward Indian positions to smithereens with artillery fire before a Chinese offensive would ever begin ... indeed, this is what they also did in 1962. Have the Indians not learned a thing about mountain warfare?

This is what Indian analyst like Paraween Sahwany has been warning the hyper Indians that China has build a full habitat in Tibet to have all weather PLA deployment. Indians on the other hand, with their obsession with Pakistan have left their backside vulnerable, rather exposed to China. Top that, India has been selling and marketing itself to western capitals as bulwark against China.
 

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This is what Indian analyst like Paraween Sahwany has been warning the hyper Indians that China has build a full habitat on in Tibet to have all weather PLA deployment. Indians on the other hand, with their obsession with Pakistan have left their backside vulnerable, rather exposed to China. Top that, India has been selling and marketing itself to western capitals as bulwark against China.
I think it is the Indians do not want to confront a threat as big as China, which is understandable. It is very difficult and frankly impossible considering India just does not have the resources or the will to do so.
 

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I think it is the Indians do not want to confront a threat as big as China, which is understandable. It is very difficult and frankly impossible considering India just does not have the resources or the will to do so.
They do, yet they keep on whoring themselves to extra regional nations.
 

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They do, yet they keep on whoring themselves to extra regional nations.
What could they realistically do to counter China? Nothing ... they will just bankrupt themselves. For example, India spends a couple million dollars upgrading extremely backward roads along LAC ... China responds with a 1 trillion RMB initiative to turn Tibet into a fortress. Everything India does to mitigate the gap, China just responds with measures magnitudes larger. Just look at what Indian road construction in Ladakh got them into ... 1000 square kilometers of territory lost, massive casualties at Galwan, and a much more hostile China.
 

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