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India to get 5 military theatre commands, one each for China and Pak

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Since you want to tow the ISPR propaganda.. lets see.

1. We entered PO.K ..dropped bombs 60 Km Inside in Pakistan proper, and dropped and 3 bomb scored direct hit on Pakistani terrorist facility. No Pakistani aircraft was even in 150 km radius of Indian aircraft.

2. No Su-30 shot down, rather a F-16 shot down.

3. How were you unchallenged, when a 50 year mig 21chased your brand new block 52s. It was IAF which was unchallenged, when it entered in to Pakistan.

4. Your weapons did not even fall close to their targets, not a single casualty in Indian side, since IAF aircrafts were chasing them.

5. It took 24 Pakistani aircrafts to shoot down a single mig 21 and lost F-16 in the process.

6. The threat was, if our pilot is not returned, India will launch Bhramos, and ipso facto IAF pilot was returned with in 72 hours.


Like Surgical strikes after Uri or aerial bombing of Balakot ?

Tell us this, if you are not afraid of Indian conventional forces, why did you lower nuclear thresh hold or don't have a NFU ?

India does not have a first use policy even against China, or unlike Pakistan, threaten nuclear response even during any stand off.
You don't know much about what you are talking do you? FYI India recently revised its NFU. Secondly there are steps in between 'surgical' strikes and Cold doctrine that India could have taken but was deterred CONVENTIONALLY. How? Learn difference about Military power and military force.
 

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The Indian military is expected to be reorganised under five theatre commands by 2022 with defined areas of operation and a seamless command structure for synchronised operations.

With the department of military affairs soon to have additional and joint secretaries after Cabinet clearance, the task of reorganisation of the three services under theatre commands has begun with a China specific Northern Command and Pakistan specific Western command under serious consideration. India’s Chief of Defence Staff Gen Bipin Rawat has been given the mandate by the Narendra Modi government to create theatre commands much like the ones China and the US currently have.

According to military and national security planners, the northern command’s remit will begin from the Karakoram Pass in Ladakh and continue up to the last outpost Kibithu in Arunachal Pradesh , with the military mandate of guarding the 3,488 kilometre of Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China. The HQ of this command could be Lucknow.

The western command’s remit will be from Indira Col on Saltoro Ridge in the Siachen Glacier region to the tip of Gujarat with its HQ likely in Jaipur.

The third theatre command will be the Peninsular Command; the fourth, a full-fledged air defence command; and the fifth, a maritime command. The likely HQ of the Peninsular command could be Thiruvananthapuram. The air defence command will not only spearhead the country’s aerial attack but also be responsible for defending Indian airspace through multi-role fighters with all anti aircraft missiles under its control.

Currently, the Indian Army, Indian Air Force and the Indian Navy all defend Indian airspace on separate communication frequencies and without synergy. This is despite the fact that all Indian Army Corps Headquarters are located next to an air base as a result of which there is duplication of effort and wasteful expenditure.

The planners said there is option of extending this to an aerospace command as per future requirements.

India will have only one maritime command with a possibility that the tri-service Andaman and Nicobar Islands Command being merged with this . The task of the maritime command will be to protect the Indian Ocean and India’s Island territories as well as keep the sea lanes free and open from any outside pressure.

Although in a nascent stage, the Indian Navy’s maritime assets will be placed in Karwar on the western seaboard, Vishakhapatnam on the eastern seaboard and in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. With China emerging as a threat, the possible headquarters of the Maritime Command could be Andhra Pradesh’s new capital with Port Blair emerging as another major base for naval operations.

Theaterisation refers to placing units of the army, air force, and navy under a single Theatre Commander. The operational command of such combinations will be under one officer drawn from one of the three services.

“Theaterisation of commands is imperative to integrate resources of the three services for maximising impact in any war. The geographical expanse of theatres in India demands unified commands for strategic decisions and critical outcomes that will be possible in concentrated employment of resources,” said former amry vice chief Lt Gen AS Lamba (retd).

According to senior officials familiar with the matter, all five commands will be headed by Lt General or equivalent rank commanders, who will be the first among equals with the heads of the present commands reporting to them. The task of the Chief of Staff of Army, Chief of Air Staff and Chief of Naval Staff will not be operational but involve mobilising resources to the theatre commanders as it is in the US military.

If the Andamans and Nicobar Command goes under the maritime command as is being visualised, then the CDS will have the Armed Forces Special Operation Division, Cyber Command and the Defence Intelligence Agency under him with manpower drawn from all the three services.
So India is following on the foot step of Chinese PLA.

Interestingly, Chinese PLA have single theatre command, Western Theater Command with headquarters in Chengdu to deal India.

Integrating military sister services is the major goal for better situation awareness and optimum employment of conventional and strategic weapons. Pakistan and China are already way ahead in this area.

An Indian dream.

India being one third in size as compared to China, will operate five military theatre commands each headed by a single commander drawn from one of the three services. Each operational theatre command will comprise of units of the army, air force, and navy.

Theaterization of commands is imperative to integrate resources of the three services for maximizing impact in any war. The geographical expanse of theatres in India demands unified commands for strategic decisions and critical outcomes that will be possible in concentrated employment of resources,

Indian Armed Forces Ground Reality

Indian CDS General Bipin Rawat, NSA Mr Ajit Doval and Home Minister Amit Shah, who’s also the ruling party’s strongman, have all joined hands to oust the Indian Army Chief General, Manoj Mukund Naravane, as the sacrificial lamb for national embarrassment at the Chinese border. Only the Defence Minister of India, Mr Rajnath Singh, is standing in between the Indian Army Chief’s fall from grace.

This source, being an insider of the Indian Military, further explained, by linking the long-standing tug of war between the CDS General Rawat and Army Chief General Naravane ever since the creation of the new designation of CDS, with an effort by the CDS to impose himself on the Army Chief. In the absence of an institution of Joint Services HQ to effectively command tri services from a centralised command network, General Bipin Rawat is struggling hard and facing stiff resistance, by the services chiefs like General Naravane—responsible for leading the biggest force among the tri services—in his efforts to superimpose himself.

General Bipin Rawat and Ajit Doval, played the Indian political leadership together by misleading them about the actual ground situation at the border with China and Pakistan. The Balakot incident where an Indian fighter jet was shot down in a Pakistani counterstrike, capturing an Indian pilot in February 2019, and the Galwan Valley clash with the Chinese PLA in 2020 which caused the massacre of 20 Indian Army soldiers, is the result of such boastful exaggeration of Indian capabilities by the Bipin-Ajit and CDS-NSA duo. A Power tussle between the CDS and the Army Chief also played a role in this situation as well.

the CDS and NSA being close confidantes of the Indian PM, Narendra Modi, kept presenting a different picture of the battlefield analysis from what the Army Chief was saying. It can be ascertained, from past public statements of General Bipin Rawat and Mr Ajit Doval, that both are expected to boast the actual strength and capabilities of the Indian Military in a confrontation on ‘Two-Fronts’. On the other hand, Indian Army Chief General Naravane, who maintains a dignified composure, is most likely to be the one speaking sense to the political leadership.

To add insult to injury, the Chinese comprehensively prevailed over an Indian delegation during the meeting of the foreign ministers of both countries on the sidelines of the SCO Summit in Moscow. This was evident from the surprising joint statement by China and India, deciding to draw down forces in an eyeball to eyeball conflict on the Indo-China borders. Not only did the Chinese force their point of view on India, they also convinced the Indian Foreign Minister that the Indian Army misrepresented the ground facts to their political leadership in New Delhi. This information was revealed by a Pakistani diplomat in Moscow who was privy to the dialogue between China and India.

After speaking to a friend who is an officer of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in Islamabad, who is currently working with the analysis wing covering India, I was told that fissiparous tendencies in India have never been stronger than in the present as the Hindutva mob is in power there. Balkanisation of India, due to her ethnic fault lines being continuously exploited under the Hindutva regime is a real possibility.
https://nation.com.pk/14-Sep-2020/war-within-the-indian-establishment
 
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The same country that on 27th Feb whipped your *** so badly that you had to run to America and Sweden and cry about them providing the weapons we did the *** kicking with. What happened to the $560 Billion reserves and "56 inches" that day? F**king clowns.

No Indian Armed Forces will go through it's usual annual parade of "reorganisation", every year they read Defense News, swot up on the latest US buzzwords like "Jointness", "Theatre commands", "RMA", "Networking", than proudly claim they are introducing them into the Armed Forces to make them world class when the fact of the matter is last year you sent a MIG-21 commanded by unscrambled voice radio to be shot down in the mountains.....

No amount of spin or buzzwords can hide the fact that the Indian Armed Forces remain under manned, under equipped, and in many cases incapable taking on Pakistan let alone China
Agree maybe its the finest victory you had in a MILLENNIA . Throughout your history, victory was a rare commodity. You achieved your greatest trophy by attacking a much smaller country, whose lost territory was surrounded by you and which had a hostile population. Certainly only an Indian can be proud of such an achievement.
You attacked in '65. Was that successful?
You conspired & attacked again in '99. Was that successful? We were successful in a similar venture earlier though.

So, don't come and follow the same tactics of '65 here. You attack & then celebrate the successful defense of Lahore. Similarly here you brought in the point under-manned, under-equipped, etc. Now you are saying you defeated a smaller nation.

Make up your mind sir.
 

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Of the 6 aircraft which entered Pakistan..5 were carrying spice 2000 bombs..and 1 was carrying crystal maze missile.

Heave rain and cloud cover was the reason crystal maze could not be fired... where of the 5 spice bombs which were dropped..(they have pre fed GPS coordinates.) So do not need man in loop guidance..

PAF was no where near the scene..or wouldn't they have tried to shoot down IAF aircraft?
So crystal maze is not all weather operational?
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So crystal maze is not all weather operational?
Not interested to reply to other content of the post.
No, it has Imaging Infra red seeker or TV guidance depending on the model. To launch Crystal maze during that weather conditions, IAF aircrafts would have required to break the cloud cover, and approach closer to target in those weather conditions.


New Delhi: The Indian Air Force could not fire any of the intended six Israeli air-to-surface missiles called the Crystal Maze from the Mirage 2000 during the Balakot air strikes against Pakistan because its laid down protocols did not allow it in that particular situation.

After an internal investigation into the whole incident, the IAF is now likely to change its firing procedures for use of Crystal Maze so that such difficulties do not arise in future Balakot-style surgical operations.

If the Crystal Maze missiles had been launched along with the SPICE-2000 bombs, they would’ve provided a live video feed of the bombs hitting their targets.

But they could not be launched from the six Mirage 2000 aircraft that had crossed about 15-20 km inside Azad Kashmir on 26 February due to protocol.

There are different firing procedures depending on the mission and weather conditions and a host of other parametres. The laid down procedures did not allow the firing of Crystal Maze in that particular situation, sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint.


“Hence, missile and bomb firing procedures are being changed, which will enable the pilots to launch them in future Balakot-type operations or otherwise,” a source said.

The non-availability of a clear video of the strike came as a setback as satellite images of the Jaish camp released a day after the strikes appear to show intact structures without any exterior damage.

“No doubt that a video would have helped. But the message sent across to the Pakistani deep state was loud and clear. Even if they deny, they and we know what really happened and the extent of the damage the SPICE-2000 caused that night,” another source in the defence establishment said.



What the SPICE-2000s struck
The first source pointed out two things to support the Indian establishment’s claim that the bombs hit their targets — that the Pakistani military opened up the Balakot camp to journalists and others only after weeks, but not the building which was struck, and the continued closure of Pakistani air space. These “clearly show” that the message was delivered loud and clear, the source added.

There were six structures at the attack site, including a large mosque, but the IAF was tasked with targeting three — a two-storey building that housed most of the cadres, including suicide bombers in training, was the primary target, and was hit by three bombs, multiple sources said.

The three SPICE-2000s that hit this building came with timers — configured on the basis of the structure’s make and the material used — that enabled them to go off only after reaching the ground floor.


The other two buildings hit were a guesthouse and a single-storey building believed to house new recruits.

Satellite images in possession of the government, and seen by ThePrint, show that the SPICE-2000 bombs did drop on at least two targets.

The images show small black holes in the roofs of two of the buildings which appear to be the entry points of the bombs. SPICE-2000s are meant to take out heavily-fortified command and control centres, even if they’re underground.
 

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No, it has Imaging Infra red seeker or TV guidance depending on the model. To launch Crystal maze during that weather conditions, IAF aircrafts would have required to break the cloud cover, and approach closer to target in those weather conditions.


New Delhi: The Indian Air Force could not fire any of the intended six Israeli air-to-surface missiles called the Crystal Maze from the Mirage 2000 during the Balakot air strikes against Pakistan because its laid down protocols did not allow it in that particular situation.

After an internal investigation into the whole incident, the IAF is now likely to change its firing procedures for use of Crystal Maze so that such difficulties do not arise in future Balakot-style surgical operations.

If the Crystal Maze missiles had been launched along with the SPICE-2000 bombs, they would’ve provided a live video feed of the bombs hitting their targets.

But they could not be launched from the six Mirage 2000 aircraft that had crossed about 15-20 km inside Azad Kashmir on 26 February due to protocol.

There are different firing procedures depending on the mission and weather conditions and a host of other parametres. The laid down procedures did not allow the firing of Crystal Maze in that particular situation, sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint.


“Hence, missile and bomb firing procedures are being changed, which will enable the pilots to launch them in future Balakot-type operations or otherwise,” a source said.

The non-availability of a clear video of the strike came as a setback as satellite images of the Jaish camp released a day after the strikes appear to show intact structures without any exterior damage.

“No doubt that a video would have helped. But the message sent across to the Pakistani deep state was loud and clear. Even if they deny, they and we know what really happened and the extent of the damage the SPICE-2000 caused that night,” another source in the defence establishment said.



What the SPICE-2000s struck
The first source pointed out two things to support the Indian establishment’s claim that the bombs hit their targets — that the Pakistani military opened up the Balakot camp to journalists and others only after weeks, but not the building which was struck, and the continued closure of Pakistani air space. These “clearly show” that the message was delivered loud and clear, the source added.

There were six structures at the attack site, including a large mosque, but the IAF was tasked with targeting three — a two-storey building that housed most of the cadres, including suicide bombers in training, was the primary target, and was hit by three bombs, multiple sources said.

The three SPICE-2000s that hit this building came with timers — configured on the basis of the structure’s make and the material used — that enabled them to go off only after reaching the ground floor.


The other two buildings hit were a guesthouse and a single-storey building believed to house new recruits.

Satellite images in possession of the government, and seen by ThePrint, show that the SPICE-2000 bombs did drop on at least two targets.

The images show small black holes in the roofs of two of the buildings which appear to be the entry points of the bombs. SPICE-2000s are meant to take out heavily-fortified command and control centres, even if they’re underground.
So the crystal maze has and had the capability to operate under all weathers but IAF poor utilization and restrictions disabled the capability? The remedy now involves revising IAF procedures. So the product is fine, the issue was at the end user... Understood.
 

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No, it has Imaging Infra red seeker or TV guidance depending on the model. To launch Crystal maze during that weather conditions, IAF aircrafts would have required to break the cloud cover, and approach closer to target in those weather conditions.


New Delhi: The Indian Air Force could not fire any of the intended six Israeli air-to-surface missiles called the Crystal Maze from the Mirage 2000 during the Balakot air strikes against Pakistan because its laid down protocols did not allow it in that particular situation.

After an internal investigation into the whole incident, the IAF is now likely to change its firing procedures for use of Crystal Maze so that such difficulties do not arise in future Balakot-style surgical operations.

If the Crystal Maze missiles had been launched along with the SPICE-2000 bombs, they would’ve provided a live video feed of the bombs hitting their targets.

But they could not be launched from the six Mirage 2000 aircraft that had crossed about 15-20 km inside Azad Kashmir on 26 February due to protocol.

There are different firing procedures depending on the mission and weather conditions and a host of other parametres. The laid down procedures did not allow the firing of Crystal Maze in that particular situation, sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint.


“Hence, missile and bomb firing procedures are being changed, which will enable the pilots to launch them in future Balakot-type operations or otherwise,” a source said.

The non-availability of a clear video of the strike came as a setback as satellite images of the Jaish camp released a day after the strikes appear to show intact structures without any exterior damage.

“No doubt that a video would have helped. But the message sent across to the Pakistani deep state was loud and clear. Even if they deny, they and we know what really happened and the extent of the damage the SPICE-2000 caused that night,” another source in the defence establishment said.



What the SPICE-2000s struck
The first source pointed out two things to support the Indian establishment’s claim that the bombs hit their targets — that the Pakistani military opened up the Balakot camp to journalists and others only after weeks, but not the building which was struck, and the continued closure of Pakistani air space. These “clearly show” that the message was delivered loud and clear, the source added.

There were six structures at the attack site, including a large mosque, but the IAF was tasked with targeting three — a two-storey building that housed most of the cadres, including suicide bombers in training, was the primary target, and was hit by three bombs, multiple sources said.

The three SPICE-2000s that hit this building came with timers — configured on the basis of the structure’s make and the material used — that enabled them to go off only after reaching the ground floor.


The other two buildings hit were a guesthouse and a single-storey building believed to house new recruits.

Satellite images in possession of the government, and seen by ThePrint, show that the SPICE-2000 bombs did drop on at least two targets.

The images show small black holes in the roofs of two of the buildings which appear to be the entry points of the bombs. SPICE-2000s are meant to take out heavily-fortified command and control centres, even if they’re underground.
This is amazing, and thanks for posting. Literally stating that IAF cannot effectively employ some of the most sophisticated weapons in it's arsenal properly. In a desperate attempt to convince a cynical world that you hit something that day, you just admitted to a total lack of capability of your pilots.

The more BS comes out the funnier this thing gets........
 

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google jindabad .............
false flag jindabad :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha: :omghaha:
To be honest, I'd like you to consider me as a Pakistani. It'll be my pleasure.
Salam Wale kum. :D
Please treat me as a Pakistani from now on wards.
 

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