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  1. Urbanized Greyhound

    Urbanized Greyhound SENIOR MEMBER

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    Military pacts on hold but India, US continue with exercises, arms deals


    NEW DELHI: India may still be wary of inking three bilateral military pacts being pushed by US but the flurry of joint combat exercises and defence deals between the two countries continues unabated.

    Even as defence minister A K Antony leaves for Washington on Sunday for a brief two-day visit, India remains quite unconvinced about the "benefits'' that will accrue from the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA), Communication Interoperability and Security Memorandum Agreement (CISMOA) and Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geo-Spatial Cooperation (BECA).

    While the first pact deals with providing logistical support for each other's armed forces, the other two deal with technology safeguards. "We have our doubts...further negotiations are in progress. The pacts will not be signed during Antony's visit,'' said an Indian official.

    A US government official, however, said CISMOA and BECA were basically "technology enablers'', which would help US provide "sensitive technology'' to India. The LSA, too, would be beneficial to both sides. "We are trying to understand Indian concerns and clarify doubts,'' he said.

    But this deadlock apart, the bilateral military ties are going full steam ahead. For one, Indian and American special forces are currently engaged in the "Vajra Prahar'' counter-terrorism exercise at the Belgaum commando school in Karnataka.

    For another, an Indian naval team is likely to soon leave for Okinawa in Japan for the amphibious exercise "Habunag'' with US Navy and marines. Then, a large Indian contingent of around 200 personnel will be leaving for Alaska to take part in the "Balance Iroquois'' wargames. India and US, incidentally, have held over 60 exercises over the last decade.

    US, of course, is also now cornering a major chunk of the lucrative Indian defence market. The latest deal to be inked, worth around $170 million, is the one for 24 Harpoon Block-II anti-ship missiles to arm the maritime strike Jaguar fighters in IAF's combat fleet.

    Then, the largest-ever Indo-American defence deal till now, the around $3.5 billion one for 10 C-17 Globemaster-III giant strategic airlift aircraft, is now in the final stages of being inked.

    Another contract on the verge of finalisation is the around $375-million deal for 510 CBU-105 sensor-fuzed weapons, along with test equipment, which are meant for anti-armour warfare.

    Moreover, India is going to order a large number of the quite expensive Javelin 2.5-km range anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). The deal for these man-portable, fire-and-forget missile systems will once again be a direct government-to-government one under the US foreign military sales (FMS) programme, without any global multi-vendor competition.
     
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  2. Urbanized Greyhound

    Urbanized Greyhound SENIOR MEMBER

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    even though it is from a TOI source I would like to know exactly what are the license agreements and checks that the U.S provides to its other Allies like SKorea , Taiwan and Japan .....which it is reluctant to give to India....and dispute our track record what are the reasons for this ?

    Members please share your views .......
    and this is my first thread .....do keep the discussions civil.....thanks.....
     
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    1) US still hasnt forgotten India's support to the former USSR.

    2) US cannot upset Beijing by supplying the sophisticated wepons to India. they take a very calculated approach when it comes to this, they have a healthy economic ties with china.

    3) Definitely the arms sales to India would raise some eyebrows back in Islamabad, and Pakistan may even stop relying (although its minimal these days, thanks to china) upon US for its requirements and mostly award all the defense contracts to China..

    US has more to lose than to gain by arms sophisticated* arms sales.
     
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    Urbanized Greyhound SENIOR MEMBER

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    bro the point about support to USSR seems to be rather weak....because our reputation for respecting license agreements(no attempts to reverse engineer) and refusal to allow any Russian expert to inspect U.S tech ( and mostly vice versa) is quite strong....This is the reason why all defense companies are willing to approach us with joint ventures even in sensitive tech.....

    only the U.S refuses to do so ....still insists on extreme end-user monitoring .....to the extent of even telling us in which waters we can use ships bought from them ( as in the case of INS Jalashwa)

    ......and regards the third point

    selling sophisticated arms to Taiwan causes much more consternation
    in Beijing than sales to India .....if them then why not us..?
     
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    selling sophisticated arms to Taiwan causes much more consternation
    in Beijing than sales to India .....if them then why not us..?


    they got to pacify Pakistan too! they cant lose out on Pakistan which has been a major arms purchasing country for them for quite a few decades...

    they speak something to Pakistanis sell their F-16's and later pacify Indians saying that the F-16's given to Pakistan will just help them to lose war a bit slower than before..

    foxy minds brother foxy minds..:taz:
     
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    well they havent actually bought too much from US,the fear of sanctions after 60s have made pakistan depend on china
     
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    India just go for it...