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What if Afghanistan wants Indian presence in their own country though? what can Pakistan do about it?
This backyard belongs to Afghanistan @Bilal.
Hold an election and let’s us know including the 3 million refuges living in Pakistan
I do not think Afghanistan sees India as a threat .. they see that for Pakistan. You only have to ask them lol
Sure..


let’s see


Pakistan: hey 3 million Afghans living in Pakistan want to go home ?
3 million Afghans : will india take us ?
Pakistan: can’t imagine any nation that would want you..but let me ask
Pakistan : hey hindu india .. do you want 3 million Afghans ?
India: are they Hindu ?
Pakistan: no.
India : ok no then..
Pakistan: ok what if we add cow piss bottle free with every Afghan as a sweetener?
india : hmmmm ….. tempting..let us check with RSS council…
 
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It doesn't matter what Pakistan is saying what matter is what international media and politics says
Pakistan has faced billions in damages, 70K deaths still has not been able to actually show they have been the victims thanks to All state actors.

Pakistan has lost much of its influence and support in middle east, only vocal supports Pakistan currently have in international politics are Turkey and China, which have own agendas as well no one will fight your battles.

Pakistan has 3 neighbours with some kind of border disputes Afghanistan, iran & india.

Only way Pakistan can actually make some change is when people actually stand up for change Politicians, bureaucrats, military are just there to grind population in power mill.
Pakistani people only have got intention to stand up for the rights of Kashmir which is under occupation by the Fascist Modi regime. When we were burying our loved ones thanks to the Indian terrorism and the numbers you are doubting we didn't begged India to stop it. We took it on our chin, fought back and got rid of the Indian dogs from our soil. Now India is on the run with their pets and didn't even had the time to collect all the belongings from the consulates. India should stock up on the wood and oil as they are going to need it soon to give the final rights to the body bags they are going to receive it from the Afghanistan.
Pakistan have got a voice and we are not friendless on this planet as India would love to see us and they have tried but funny thing is egg is on the Indian face. Which neighbour India don't have dispute with from Nepal, Pakistan, China and BD name the few and rest is sea around India. Indians are only good at farting and throwing out the verbal diarrhoea and after getting caught red handed with EU misinformation labs world don't think much of Indian prospective anymore.
 

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I like this guy....give him a free role. He is a true Pakistani
It's not talk that matters but action, you are what you do and not what you talk. we need to see terrorists driven out of Afghanistan and this is the time. But it needs to well planned and coordinated and not gun Ho US /NATO style.
 

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It doesn't matter what Pakistan is saying what matter is what international media and politics says
Pakistan has faced billions in damages, 70K deaths still has not been able to actually show they have been the victims thanks to All state actors.

Pakistan has lost much of its influence and support in middle east, only vocal supports Pakistan currently have in international politics are Turkey and China, which have own agendas as well no one will fight your battles.

Pakistan has 3 neighbours with some kind of border disputes Afghanistan, iran & india.

Only way Pakistan can actually make some change is when people actually stand up for change Politicians, bureaucrats, military are just there to grind population in power mill.


you information is outdated.

there has been a slow but noticable shift in Pakistan's case.
 

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I do not think Afghanistan sees India as a threat .. they see that for Pakistan. You only have to ask them lol
Pashtun are inlarge numbers in Afghanistan n i tell you even more Pashtuns are living in Pakistan then in Afghanistan. Second everyone is supper welcome if they think they are stronger then nato usa and soviet. It will be best gift from india to Pakistan if they send Indian troops in Afghanistan. Man that will be total slaughter lol
 

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Moeed tells India to end terrorism in Pakistan, reverse Aug 5 IIOJK decision for talks
India has turned Afghanistan into a hub of terrorism by sponsoring anti-Pakistan groups, says NSA


Our CorrespondentJuly 24, 2021

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Dr Moeed Yousuf. PHOTO: FILE
National Security Adviser (NSA) Dr Moeed Yusuf on Saturday said India must stop state sponsorship of terrorism in Pakistan before dialogue between the two nuclear-armed neighbours can resume.
In an interview with Indian journalist Karan Thapar, the security adviser also said India must reverse its unilateral and illegal decision of August 5 in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir for talks to resume.
Explaining Pakistan's position on Kashmir, Moeed said "the government and the people of Pakistan will remain committed to the Kashmir cause till Kashmiris are granted their right to self-determination under UNSC resolutions".
Elaborating on the offer from India to hold talks, the national security adviser said Islamabad had clearly communicated to India that it must halt demographic change in IIOJK, ensure the protection of Kashmiri identity and give Kashmiris their rights before any dialogue or talks can take place.
Read Pakistan likely to approach FATF president against India
Providing details of Indian involvement in terrorism, he said the country has provided a detailed dossier with evidence of Indian involvement and said New Delhi's intelligence agency, RAW, was involved in the recent bombing in Johar Town in Lahore. He further detailed the evidence of banking transactions, telephone records and cyberattacks, whcih "revealed direct involvement of India in the attacks".
Moeed further said that Indian intelligence agencies were deliberately targeting the multi-billion dollar China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CEPC)and Chinese interests in Pakistan through terrorist proxies.
The NSA elaborated that Pakistan had always stood for peace and Prime Minister Imran Khan, during his recent trip to Tashkent, had said Pakistan wanted to have a civilized relationship with India as a neighbour, but the Indian government’s RSS inspired Hindutva ideology was a stumbling block.
During the interview, he asked why people inside India were comparing Modi to Hitler and also informed the Indian journalist that the country was deeply concerned about India’s rogue behaviour including reports of Indian state-sponsored spying on Pakistani individuals revealed under the recent Pegasus scandal and the revelation made by Indian Foreign Minister that the Modi government had politicized the FATF technical process to ensure Pakistan remains on the grey list despite meeting almost all technical criteria.
"Pakistan hopes that the possibility of moving forward remains if the Indian government realized its mistakes in IIOJK and took the right steps to reverse the situation on the ground. If India takes such actions and ends terrorism inside Pakistan, then both countries can work towards resolving their core issues which will benefit the common citizens of both countries," said the NSA in response to a question.
Read more Pakistan seeks UN probe into India’s phone hacking
He added that Pakistan is pursuing a policy of geo-economics and the country wanted peace and stability in Afghanistan.
Elaborating further, he said Pakistan's leadership has spent over 15,000 hours trying to convince Afghan factions to sit together and find a negotiated political settlement which is inclusive for peace and stability in Afghanistan.
He stated that Islamabad does not want a 'protracted war in Afghanistan'.
The NSA further added that "Pakistan was committed to working with all regional countries that wanted peace and stability in Afghanistan".
However, alluding to India, he said countries that were spoilers in Afghanistan and did not want peace in the country must desist from their negative actions.
He also categorically stated that India has turned Afghanistan into a hub of terrorism by sponsoring anti-Pakistan groups and this was unacceptable for Islamabad.
 

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Don’t tell us India made it a sanctuary we already know that, tell us what you are doing to solve this…. Have you used your intel agencies to take out these threats inside Afghan via OPS? Why haven’t you taken action and assassinated Indian consulate officials in Afghan.

The reality is none gives a shit internationally if it’s damaging Pakistan and crying about it isn’t going to garner any sympathy, you either stay quite or take matters into your own hands — and Pakistan has failed hands down.
 

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It's not talk that matters but action, you are what you do and not what you talk. we need to see terrorists driven out of Afghanistan and this is the time. But it needs to well planned and coordinated and not gun Ho US /NATO style.
Define terrorists? And what has anyone on this forum done for Pakistan other than talk??? Even you and me?
 

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Define terrorists? And what has anyone on this forum done for Pakistan other than talk??? Even you and me?
We are what we type here :) Proud Pakistanis who are helping to bring change :pakistan:. I have sacrificed enough for Pakistan and would be ready to fight if and when the need arises.
 

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National Security Adviser (NSA) Dr Moeed Yusuf on Saturday said Afghanistan was forced to become a “sanctuary for terrorists” by India in the past 20 years to fuel terrorism in Pakistan, emphasising that “it must now stop”.

In a virtual interview with The Wire journalist Karan Thapar, Yusuf said Pakistan won't accept if India deploys its people in Afghanistan in the garb of development workers and uses them to incite terrorism in Pakistan, adding that Afghanistan should never become a sanctuary for terrorists.

The NSA said a window for improved relationship between Pakistan and India was open but insisted it was India that had to create the “enabling environment”. The security adviser added that many voices in Pakistan were sure that the incumbent Indian government won’t let this happen.

He said India would miss a “once-in-a-lifetime” opportunity if it failed to take up this chance for the region to move forward with the current civil and military leadership of Pakistan.

In response to a question about a prospective Afghan government, Yusuf said Pakistan would welcome whatever Afghans decide for their future. “We have no favourites, and no line on who should go where. If anybody tries to impose from outside, it will not work,” he emphasised.

He insisted that Pakistan would keep trying to facilitate a political settlement in Afghanistan.

When asked if Pakistan would recognise Taliban if they grab power militarily, Yusuf said “we will see how the international community reacts and take the decision accordingly.”

The host also asked whether Pakistan would seal its border with Afghanistan if Taliban took over Afghanistan. The NSA underlined it was unlikely to take place, adding that any decision taken by the prime minister would be implemented.

‘Backdoor’ meetings
The NSA was also posed a question on whether he held a secret meeting with his Indian counterpart Ajit Doval in Dubai. Yusuf replied in the negative. He, however, said the Indian side had made contact with Pakistan.

Discussing the “backdoor channels” for talks, the interviewer asked whether the Chief of Army Staff Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa also met Ajit Doval recently. The NSA responded: “Intelligence-level contacts happen even in the worst of circumstances … who was there from the Indian side, I would protect that because that’s for India to decide if it wants to reveal or not, and if I be brutally honest, it would also reveal who really calls the shots in India, so it's better for them to decide.”

At this, Thapar asked the NSA whether he was implying the meeting between the COAS and Ajit Doval did take place. Yusuf said he was not suggesting that.

The NSA said Pakistan wanted to move forward with India “but unfortunately, as the PM remarked, the RSS ideology has come in the way.”

“For Pakistan, there are two main concerns, one is Kashmir, as it has always been and it will always be there till the Kashmiris get their right to self-determination in the light of UN resolutions.”

He highlighted that Pakistan’s second core concern was terrorism, saying “this is an important facet of Pakistan’s policy towards India. We need India to understand that we know it is perpetrating terrorism against Pakistan in Pakistan and this is unacceptable”.

Yusuf said any third party that wanted to come in to help resolve the Kashmir issue between Pakistan and India in line with the UN resolutions was welcome. “Third parties have made contacts with Pakistan all the time because the world is worried,” he said.

Responding to a query on whether any third party actually intervened to resolve the lingering dispute, the NSA said he sensed that there was some pressure put on India, adding “I can’t confirm that because I wasn’t a part of it. India can speak on it.”

He emphasised that Pakistan was moving in a direction where it wanted connectivity and peace with the world.

The NSA clarified that Pakistan wanted to move forward on Kashmir, but it would not do so at the expense of Kashmiris and their lives. “Our position remains firm to the UNSC resolutions, until the right to self-determination is granted,” he added.

“The Kashmir situation has not normalised for two years.”

India must take steps on the ground
Yusuf said one may test sincerity by seeing whether India did the minimum required to at least start a conversation on how to resolve Kashmir. “Second, we would want India take some steps on the ground.”

The NSA added that an illegal change on Aug 5, 2019, had to be reversed for a start of a conversation on how to grant Kashmiris their right to self-determination.

He went on to say: “You cannot expect India to continue perpetrating terrorism in Pakistan and hope that Pakistan closes its eyes because the global narrative is on your side.”

He said if anyone in India or elsewhere thought that Pakistan’s conciliatory narrative on moving forward was signaling that Pakistan would just forget Kashmir and move on, “those people are living in fool’s paradise.”

He reiterated that there was a basket of things on Kashmir and India had to cease perpetrating terrorism against Pakistan “for us to know India is sincere”.

Mentioning a recent bomb blast in Lahore, Yusuf said Pakistan had all traces and evidences of elements based in India connected with recruiters in a third country that planned the foul play.

When asked to name the mastermind in public, the NSA said everybody will hear this on TV in detail “when the time is right”.

Lashing out at the Indian government for its “role to harm Pakistan” internationally, he added that Indian external affairs minister had publicly said that India ensured Pakistan remained on the FATF grey list.

He said it was also worrying that India tapped the [mobile phone] of Pakistan’s prime minister.

 

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