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Why are you interested in legitimizing a terror master? You don't believe in democracy?

Every Freedom fighter is Terrorist for the someone else. Hafiz Saeed is a hero in Pakistan. Millions of people follow him and I have no reason to declare him terrorist. He openly condemns suicide bombings and killings of civilians whether they are Muslims or Non-Muslims. I dont believe in allegation theory. The rule is 'everyone is innocent until proven guilty'. :pakistan::pakistan:
 

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so he is such a peaceful guy then how come he is the founder of two terrorist organizations banned by the UN??
If UN sanctions are enough to prove a matter then first of all India should accept Kashmir as a disputed territory as demanded by UN resolutions. In real interpretation all the Indian troops in Kashmir are terrorists in uniform and killing civilians everyday but you give them medals for this terrorism. On the other hand Hafiz Saeed is helping poor Hindus and Christians in Pakistan and you are declaring him terrorist. Thats not good man. :pakistan::pakistan:
 

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If UN sanctions are enough to prove a matter then first of all India should accept Kashmir as a disputed territory as demanded by UN resolutions. In real interpretation all the Indian troops in Kashmir are terrorists in uniform and killing civilians everyday but you give them medals for this terrorism. On the other hand Hafiz Saeed is helping poor Hindus and Christians in Pakistan and you are declaring him terrorist. Thats not good man. :pakistan::pakistan:
Terrorists are those who are cowards. Just for example see what happened to Ajmal Ali Kasab he came to fight for JuD (as per Kasab) but now they are rejecting him while Govt of Pakistan accepted him as a Pakistani. Saeed don't have the guts to fight a front war but he think he can win under some terrorists!!!? Never.

Kashmir was part of India from earliest time of history. Every way Kashmir is related to India and Indian forces are not hiding like those terrorists.
 

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:pakistan:I think most of the people are not reading or listening Hafiz Saeed's words carefully. At the start of February he started to appear in media after a remaining low-profile for months. His first big show was his speech on Kashmir Day in Lahore, the next was his exclusive interview to Al Jazeera English (Few Days before Indo Pak Dialogue) and then (After the dialogue) he gave interview to Express News. The last one is his speech on Sunday March 07, 2010 which we are discussing right now.

I see a considerable shift in his stance towards dialogue and peace between the two countries. We can see that he is very much saying same things which our foreign office says. He has not threatened India for war or Jihad in any of his publich appearances in this one and half month period. Then why people are accusing him for what he has not said.

If you read todays story then you will find that he is not threatening for war, instead he is telling the Pakistani nation about the war India is imposing on Pakistan.

Actually Hafiz Saeed is exposing India by talking for peace and dialogue and India just wants that Hafiz Saeed should always speak for Jihad and War so that India can utilize his statements for propaganda.

I will again request all respected readers that please read his statements once again and you will find that there is no difference between his point of view and the standing of government of Pakistna.

I think Hafiz Saeed wants peace by resolving Kashmir issue but India does not want peace in the region. :pakistan::pakistan:
dude how will is that ur saying that Mr murderer syeed is talking about peace when he says that pakistan should go to war with india ur argument is to the extreme and ya i do respect ur post .....
u said india dosent want peace in the region actually it is pakistan not india........ pak wants Kashmir which is not ur's anymore and india will not redraw its boundary line that is LOC which has been said by the PM so state of pak became desperate and attacked india by well sponsored non state actors and pretend that it is a peace loving country the whole world knows the truth buddy
 

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His tall remarks are lackluster compared to the leverage Shiv Sena enjoys in influencing India's foreign policy and sporting events.
bal thakrey is not banned by UN and not orchestrated any attack in pakistan and indian government is not a banana government here the democracy but not demo-crasy i bet pak government "civilian" cannot take any action against a general in PA if found of and fraudulent activity.......... and more over indian govt donot listen to fringe parties on their foreign policies and if Mr thakery has done any terrorist activities out side india give us the proof else shut up and donot involve his name in the arguments
 

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Here are your befitting answers.
1. Someone used Shive Sena’s name just as an example otherwise you have more dangerous terrorist organizations such as Vishva Hindu Preshad, Bajrag Dal and the mother of all Hindu Terrorist organizations RSS. None of the Pakistani or Kashmiri Jihadi organization is involved in mass killings as Hindu Terrorist organizations are doing in India.
2. Here in Pakistan AK-47 is carried to combat your G-2. It does not aim at civilians but VHP processions carry Treshols and the aim is to kill civilian Muslims and Christians.
3. Training facilities for VHP in India are in hundreds and during pervious 15 years hundreds of thousands of Hindu terrorist are trained in these camps. Gujarat massacres was a just an example of Hindu terror.
4. Do VHP and RSS come under election commission directives as a political parties?
5. Your own The National Commission for Minorities (NCM) has sought a ban on Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) for their alleged involvement in communal riots. No one in Pakistan asks for a ban on Jamat-ud-Dawah. And for your information according to Lahore High Court Jamat-ud-Dawah is not a banned organization in Pakistan.
6. Let alone UN, Babri Masjid fact finding commission set up by your own government tells that Advani was involved in demolition of Babri Masjid.
7. Who is sending Surbajeet Singh and Kashmir Singh for terror in Pakistan? Definitely not Shiv Sena but your state. Then your Parliament declares that Surbajeet Singh is a hero? What does it mean? When you as a nation praise terrorists then why we should not term you a terrorist state? Remember that unlike Hafiz Saeed and Ajmal Kasab Surbajeet Singh is a convicted Terrorist and he is waiting for the death sentence. :pakistan::pakistan:
these are internal matters concerned with india i can compare ur swat valley atrocities and we can keep on going on in this thread we are not talking about the internal matters of a country its the foreign policies influenced by non state actors and no where Bajarang dal RSS or VHP well what are u trying to say that UN is blind if those were terror organization they would have been banned by the indian government just the way they banned naxils and SIMI so dont post craps just for the heck of it :hitwall::hitwall:
 

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Every Freedom fighter is Terrorist for the someone else. Hafiz Saeed is a hero in Pakistan. Millions of people follow him and I have no reason to declare him terrorist. He openly condemns suicide bombings and killings of civilians whether they are Muslims or Non-Muslims. I dont believe in allegation theory. The rule is 'everyone is innocent until proven guilty'. :pakistan::pakistan:
well if u turn back the history pages and see how india and pakistan got independence u will come to know what a actual freedom fighters look like and how they acted like even Mr ginna followed the same principles of non violence and Mr murderer syeed is no freedom fighter he is a cold blooded terrorist who kills innocent people....... period
 

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Here are your befitting answers.
1. Someone used Shive Sena’s name just as an example otherwise you have more dangerous terrorist organizations such as Vishva Hindu Preshad, Bajrag Dal and the mother of all Hindu Terrorist organizations RSS. None of the Pakistani or Kashmiri Jihadi organization is involved in mass killings as Hindu Terrorist organizations are doing in India.
2. Here in Pakistan AK-47 is carried to combat your G-2. It does not aim at civilians but VHP processions carry Treshols and the aim is to kill civilian Muslims and Christians.
3. Training facilities for VHP in India are in hundreds and during pervious 15 years hundreds of thousands of Hindu terrorist are trained in these camps. Gujarat massacres was a just an example of Hindu terror.
4. Do VHP and RSS come under election commission directives as a political parties?
5. Your own The National Commission for Minorities (NCM) has sought a ban on Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) for their alleged involvement in communal riots. No one in Pakistan asks for a ban on Jamat-ud-Dawah. And for your information according to Lahore High Court Jamat-ud-Dawah is not a banned organization in Pakistan.
6. Let alone UN, Babri Masjid fact finding commission set up by your own government tells that Advani was involved in demolition of Babri Masjid.
7. Who is sending Surbajeet Singh and Kashmir Singh for terror in Pakistan? Definitely not Shiv Sena but your state. Then your Parliament declares that Surbajeet Singh is a hero? What does it mean? When you as a nation praise terrorists then why we should not term you a terrorist state? Remember that unlike Hafiz Saeed and Ajmal Kasab Surbajeet Singh is a convicted Terrorist and he is waiting for the death sentence. :pakistan::pakistan:
Well done sir,

U mixed all the organizations in India and also added state in the end. Dont u guys have some credibility when u speak. Shive sena ur any such organizations doesnt have anything to do with Pakistan except for the fact that they are against any relationship because they think Pakistan sponsors terrorism in India. Ur above statement is just plain BS. You say that VHP has terror camp but terrorism is supported By indian state. If VHP is not sending terrorist to Pakistan then How is it ur concern?

Your Hafiz terrorist saeed openly goes on threatening to destroy Indian cities so he become our concern.The day Pakistan say we will not support terrorist activities in India , nobody in india has anything to do with u. And If you found that state of India is sponsoring terror in ur country then go to UN or whatever or wage a direct war , but why you are letting loose these maniacs to threat a sovereign country.

and in the end about VHP and Shiv Sena activities Its not ur concern
 

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Terror is terror whether its done in Pakistan or in India. You mean VHP massacre Indian Muslims and this should be no point of concern for ur but when ur own agents kidnap two sikhs in Pakistan ur government raisese the issue in bilateral talks. India is
a confused state...it pretend to be a secular state but has concerns for Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan. And we show a concern for our Muslim brothers and sisters in India you mind it ?
Its the terror in uniform of ur 800000 plus army which forced Kashmiris to form Lashkar and hizb and its the terror of RSS and VHP which forced Indian Muslims to form Indian Mujahideen and SIMI but you blame Pakistan for export of terror ?
 

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Shiv sena is the political party....it actually send MP to the parlaiment & nothing else.....

Though it is right wing party...& most of mumbaikar are its supporter...

BUT IT IS A REGIONAL PARTY....

SHIVSENA is nothing outside maharastra....
so you have formally elected retards into government and your whining about what here ?
 

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His tall remarks are lackluster compared to the leverage Shiv Sena enjoys in influencing India's foreign policy and sporting events.
Pure bullshit from your part..why you drag shivsena when we talk about cross border terrorism??how many bombings did Shiv sena did in Pakistan??Shivsena is nothing out side Maharashtra and they dont have any influvence in India's foreign policy..if you dont have any idea about Shiv sena then do us a favour just stop posting stupid things
 

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Here are your befitting answers.
ok

1. Someone used Shive Sena’s name just as an example otherwise you have more dangerous terrorist organizations such as Vishva Hindu Preshad, Bajrag Dal and the mother of all Hindu
Terrorist organizations RSS. None of the Pakistani or Kashmiri Jihadi organization is involved in mass killings as Hindu Terrorist organizations are doing in India.
Again tell me how many bombing this organisations did in your country?how many of your country men killed by them?

2. Here in Pakistan AK-47 is carried to combat your G-2. It does not aim at civilians but VHP processions carry Treshols and the aim is to kill civilian Muslims and Christians.
VHP carrying thrishuls to kill Muslims and Christians?yeah right...I am a christain and I dont see any VHP guys coming to kill me with a Thrishul..I dont care you carry Ak-47 in your country..but dont pick it up and come to India to kill our innocent brothers and sisters

3. Training facilities for VHP in India are in hundreds and during pervious 15 years hundreds of thousands of Hindu terrorist are trained in these camps. Gujarat massacres was a just an example of Hindu terror.
Can you provide me any links about this training facilities??for RSS there is Shakha..but its not a terrorists training facility..for god sake Gujrat was a communal riot and Hindus also killed there..all started with the burining of train which carries karsevaks...

4. Do VHP and RSS come under election commission directives as a political parties?
No they are religious organisations..just like YMCA[Young Mens Christian Organisation] and other muslim organisations in India

5. Your own The National Commission for Minorities (NCM) has sought a ban on Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) for their alleged involvement in communal riots. No one in Pakistan asks for a ban on Jamat-ud-Dawah. And for your information according to Lahore High Court Jamat-ud-Dawah is not a banned organization in Pakistan.
NO one is asked for the ban of JuD there because JuD didnt attack any one there till today..they are doing harm to my country..Stop supporting cross border terrorism other wise its your countrys reputation that going to the gutter

6. Let alone UN, Babri Masjid fact finding commission set up by your own government tells that Advani was involved in demolition of Babri Masjid.
If he is involved he will face charges..and our court will give suitable punishment

7. Who is sending Surbajeet Singh and Kashmir Singh for terror in Pakistan? Definitely not Shiv Sena but your state. Then your Parliament declares that Surbajeet Singh is a hero? What does it mean? When you as a nation praise terrorists then why we should not term you a terrorist state? Remember that unlike Hafiz Saeed and Ajmal Kasab Surbajeet Singh is a convicted Terrorist and he is waiting for the death sentence. :pakistan::pakistan:
Can you please provide me links about Parliament declare Surabjeet as a hero??
 

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1. Someone used Shive Sena’s name just as an example otherwise you have more dangerous terrorist organizations such as Vishva Hindu Preshad, Bajrag Dal and the mother of all Hindu Terrorist organizations RSS. None of the Pakistani or Kashmiri Jihadi organization is involved in mass killings as Hindu Terrorist organizations are doing in India.
2. Here in Pakistan AK-47 is carried to combat your G-2. It does not aim at civilians but VHP processions carry Treshols and the aim is to kill civilian Muslims and Christians.
3. Training facilities for VHP in India are in hundreds and during pervious 15 years hundreds of thousands of Hindu terrorist are trained in these camps. Gujarat massacres was a just an example of Hindu terror.
4. Do VHP and RSS come under election commission directives as a political parties?
5. Your own The National Commission for Minorities (NCM) has sought a ban on Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) for their alleged involvement in communal riots. No one in Pakistan asks for a ban on Jamat-ud-Dawah. And for your information according to Lahore High Court Jamat-ud-Dawah is not a banned organization in Pakistan.
6. Let alone UN, Babri Masjid fact finding commission set up by your own government tells that Advani was involved in demolition of Babri Masjid.
7. Who is sending Surbajeet Singh and Kashmir Singh for terror in Pakistan? Definitely not Shiv Sena but your state. Then your Parliament declares that Surbajeet Singh is a hero? What does it mean? When you as a nation praise terrorists then why we should not term you a terrorist state? Remember that unlike Hafiz Saeed and Ajmal Kasab Surbajeet Singh is a convicted Terrorist and he is waiting for the death sentence. :pakistan::pakistan:
Few things:
(1) What all they have to do with Pakistan. This all is India's internal matter. Do not try to become a thekedar of minorities in India. They have their own representatives to do the job. You somehow forgot the reply given by Madni to Mussaraf.
(2) I am curious since when and where VHP etc. are running training camps. Some info please. :azn:
(3) Pakistan never asked for ban on these VHP/RSS/Bajrang Dal etc nor they were ever accused of any terror activity in Pakistan.
(4) No one in India said Sabarjeet Singh is a Hindu or a Muslim. Govt only said to show some mercy on humanitarian ground.
(5) The most important point....all this is offtopic. :rofl: :rofl:
 
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If UN sanctions are enough to prove a matter then first of all India should accept Kashmir as a disputed territory as demanded by UN resolutions. In real interpretation all the Indian troops in Kashmir are terrorists in uniform and killing civilians everyday but you give them medals for this terrorism. On the other hand Hafiz Saeed is helping poor Hindus and Christians in Pakistan and you are declaring him terrorist. Thats not good man. :pakistan::pakistan:

just tell me one thing is Sayeed a Kashmir citizen?he is killing innocent poeple around here and collecting money for JIhad against India..Did you see VHP and Shiv sena collecting money for JIhad against Pakistan??VHP and Shiv sena are internal matter of India..
 

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Terror is terror whether its done in Pakistan or in India. You mean VHP massacre Indian Muslims and this should be no point of concern for ur but when ur own agents kidnap two sikhs in Pakistan ur government raisese the issue in bilateral talks. India is
a confused state...it pretend to be a secular state but has concerns for Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan. And we show a concern for our Muslim brothers and sisters in India you mind it ?
Its the terror in uniform of ur 800000 plus army which forced Kashmiris to form Lashkar and hizb and its the terror of RSS and VHP which forced Indian Muslims to form Indian Mujahideen and SIMI but you blame Pakistan for export of terror ?[/QUOTE]


lolz India is a secular state its your country who is confused about being secular or sheriat in nature...no you dont have to concern about Indian muslims because they are Indians those who wanted a seperate country has already leeft this country and formed new one..those who wanted to remain as Indians are still here and they are none of your concern..Lashkar and Hizb are formed by Pakistan citizens now Kashmiri guys...The same IM and SIMI is formed by recruiting people with money and giving them false hope of Jannat..when your country men stop using religion for your personal gains then all your problems will be solved
 

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