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India-China Ladakh face-off still on

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  1. Europa

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    The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Main News

    NEW DELHI: The troop face-off at Chumar as well as the "civilian confrontation" at Demchok continued in eastern Ladakh on Tuesday, with India awaiting China's response to the "concerns and objections" raised at the brigadier-level flag meeting on Monday.

    Another flag meeting is likely to take place at the Spanggur Gap border meeting point within "a day or two" in a bid to defuse the tensions prevailing along the line of actual control (LAC). This even as India rolls out the red carpet for Chinese President Xi Jinping, who is on a three-day visit beginning from Wednesday.

    "In the flag meeting on Monday, India asked China to withdraw from the two areas and adhere to the 2005 Border Protocol between the two sides. But the Chinese sector commander said he would have to seek instructions from his higher HQs. In effect, the meeting was inconclusive," said a source.

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    Though the government maintained the Chumar and Demchok incidents are "routine in nature" due to "differing perceptions" about where the LAC lies, the fact remains that in both the cases the confrontation has stretched well beyond a couple of days. This is unusual for the border flare-ups that occur due to aggressive patrolling by both sides to lay claim to disputed areas.

    A similar face-off had also erupted just before Chinese premier Li Keqiang's visit to India in May last year, which had lasted for 21 days after Chinese troops intruded 19 km into Depsang valley in the Daulat Beg Oldi (DBO) sector.

    The Indian post at Chumar, with its observation points and surveillance cameras, was also the bone of contention during the Depsang face-off. It was finally defused after India dismantled what it called "a tin shed" at Chumar and the PLA troops simultaneously withdrew from Depsang.

    As reported by TOI, the ongoing troop face-off at Chumar was triggered after Indian soldiers last week prevented People's Liberation Army from building a road right up to Chepzi on the LAC in the sector where the altitude varies from 11,000 to 15,000 feet.

    Though the over 100 Indian troops were outnumbered 1:3, they confronted the Chinese soldiers equipped with cranes and bulldozers and then asked them to withdraw. "As it is, the PLA has built massive infrastructure all along the LAC, and the gap is ever-increasing. They have become especially active in the Chumar sector since our positions there overlook theirs," said a source.

    China, in turn, had actively obstructed Indian civilian workers from constructing a water irrigation channel under the NREGA scheme at Demchok for the last one week. A large number of Chinese graziers, ferried on PLA vehicles from their village called Toshigang, have pitched tents at the site to ensure the Indian workers cannot engage in the construction of the water channel.

    India-China Ladakh face-off still on - The Times of India
     
  2. The_Sidewinder

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    Now this is.responsible journalism. Unlike Zee News, who wrote absolute garbaze without quit getting into proximity of the situation which certainly created buzz among pdf members, thus inviting a troll fest from chineese cheerleaders.
    Now that actual situation being described, not even a single reply being posted by any one of those members.
     
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    this is the world's only border..i guess..where two big and powerful military fights like this...
    china army : hath laga kar dikha.....
    india army: tu hath laga kar dikha....
    china army : pahle tu laga.....
    india army: nai pahle tu laga....
    china army: nikal yahan se...
    india army: nai tu nikal yahan se.....
    :p::p::p::p:
     
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    Looks like the PLA has a mind of its own. There seems to be serious disconnect between the civilian ccp and the pla. I wonder if that's the case with the Chinese navy in scs too?

    Either that or they are trying some strategies.
     
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    TENT WAR of 21 centurey: India and china:rofl:
     
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    i dont like this standoff but still better thn fighting it out,,,,imagine if firing starts
     
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    At least we are not killing eachother. Unlike our long lost brothers who have resorted to guns rather than talks.
     
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    Walk and talk.
     
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    They are playing all this to gauge the response of new regime n this will not stop even if Chinese premier agreed to stop such incidents... This is something they are doing regularly with their all neighbor with disputed borders on land n sea.... India will have to play its cards smartly but add some teeth in her policy to deal with China.......
     
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    time to raise a tent regiment like china has.....
     
  11. Sam Manekshaw

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    How much it will cost? will that work on Pakistani front too? o_O
     
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    it won't cost much..so many indians will join tent regiment...just a holiday package at borders of ladakah :p:..no arm training ..just pitch the tent and stay there.....special training should be given to pitch different kinds of tent....and in this visit we can make a proposal to have a tent exercise with china..because china is expertise in this area......

    for Pakistani front...we have more than enough.....
    jaisa desh vaisa besh.....:-):-)
     
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    Dont worry , This is TENT WAR , In tent war no firing only setting up of more and more tents but their is a remote possibility of Boxing matches between both armies . i say Invest in Tent making business u will make billions by next decade.
    Best thing is both armies dont understand each other languages, thats why all soldiers keep abusing each others, to cool their anger without any fight. :rofl:
    India pakistan boarder pe agar koi indian solider kisi pakistani ko bol de abe Madarch@d to itne me to nuclear war start ho jati:lol:
     
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    Link to project MAUSAM:
    Narendra Modi’s ‘Mausam’ manoeuvre to check China’s maritime might - The Times of India

    These excerpts are pretty amusing and interesting:

    "Now this is being mean. Chinese army has pushed its civilians to force us to stop work on a canal which is being built well within our territory. This time the Chinese People's Liberation Army is sitting at back," Chewang said.

    Civilians from India also camped right at the spot and were refusing to allow the Chinese 'Rebos' to stop the work leading to a tense situation in the area with armies from both sides staging banner drills to protect their civilians, the sources said:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

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    Listen dude,India is the ONLY country wich which China has disputed borders on Land。

    Now check out the number of countries with which China shares a land border。

    Do the same for India。

    What do you find?:D Give us the answers。