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India and Pakistan need to reunite like Germany and Vietnam: Markandey Katju

Discussion in 'Central & South Asia' started by kahonapyarhai, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. lastofthepatriots

    lastofthepatriots SENIOR MEMBER

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    You are seriously delusional If you think that is the case. You guys are actually vehemently hated in the rural societies of Pakistan which are the majority. Even in the cities, people tend to just be polite when a camera is shoved in their face. Honestly, If Kashmir was resolved we wouldn't think about India at all, just like we never think about Bangladesh. If you want to use the Bollywood argument then sure some people watch bollywood in Pakistan, but Pakistanis also watch hollywood and their opinion about Americans is pretty self-evident. :lol:
     
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    Good God NO !!!
     
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  3. padamchen

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    I'm not saying its happening tomorrow.

    One thing I've seen about Pakistanis is how smoothly your populace changes sides.

    Love to hate happens seamlessly.

    Loved the Americans. Hate them now.

    Hated the Russians. Getting chummy now.

    Loved the Chinese. Cracks widening now.

    You share nothing with these three. Nothing. Except common interests. At the time.

    I'm not really sure about Turkey and Iran and the Saudis to be honest. The love and hate internally in your populace seems to be cleaved along sectarian lines. That much is obvious. Its hardly political or strategic.

    Cheers, Doc

    Please share why.

    Cheers, Doc
     
  4. lastofthepatriots

    lastofthepatriots SENIOR MEMBER

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    We are very loyal people, but also pragmatic. As soon we see the other side is not reciprocating in an agreement, we leave them to the hyenas. We are indeed a ruthless people with smiles on our faces. As a famous American author once wrote, 'The Pakistanis will let you in with a bribe, but afterwards will also only let you out with a bribe'. :lol:
     
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    Can be done only under Islamic govt
     
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    No, we do not need to reunite

    We, however, need to learn to co-exist peacefully but for that Indians will have to whole heartedly accept the existence of Pakistan as a different sovereign nation first, and also acknowledge the fact that Pakistan will never bow down to India or accept India as the regional hegemon.
     
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    But then why are you guys floundering if you are so smart?

    Remember I had tried to attempt a possible scenario:

    Pakistan provinces become Indian states. The structure and machinery can remain the same, or get merged with our Indian system.

    NOTE: Ditto Bangladesh, for all Pakistan suggestions.

    The people administering remain Pakistani. Locally, regionally, provincially.

    All of these are also part of the larger Indian Parliament. And elected in the same manner.

    Central government is a general election. Of all Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis.

    There is no cross ownership of land.

    Movement is free. Domicile determines education and jobs. But there is no restriction on central quotas.

    There is one currency. One banking system. One Judiciary. One Administrative services. One Foreign services.

    The Army and Police remain separate. Completely. Totally.

    Industry can set up shop anywhere. With joint ownership and local employment from the local catchment region.

    Railways and Roadways and Waterways/Ports are central infrastructure and adminsitered.

    Ditto rivers and dams.

    Ditto dairy and agriculture.

    Cheers, Doc
     
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    what have Tamils gained from being under Indian occupation ?



    Indians have much in common with Pakistan - historically, culturally and racially but not with Tamilnadu
     
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    This is a supreme court judge and not an idiot I am 100% sure that his comments are being taken out of context.
     
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    Nobody asked my opinion :d

    I want our Punjab reunited and Sindh with Gujrat.
     
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    You do realise we have more Punjabis right? So Punjab would technically have to reunite with us.
     
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    See, project Pakistan was made successful by Hidutva by themselves.
    For example, when in 1947 majority of Indian muslims refused to migrate to Pakistan, Hindus began to attack their houses. Majority of muslims who migrated to Pakistan were forcefully expelled from their homes
    Today, think about the concept of Pakistan in the absence of Hidutva.
    Basically, we are same in many aspects, but it is clear that whenever Hindus are in power, they will not let anybody to live with peace. That's the reason why Mughals and Britishers were so successful in India. You guys are simply not made to rule.
     
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    Please ask any one of them to tell they are not Indian & they want a separate Tamil land.

    Subramanian Swamy
    Nirmala Sitaraman
    Abdul Kalam
    Sundar Pichai
    AR Rahman
    Vishwanathan Anand
    Indra Nooyi
    Shiv Nadar
    Raghuram Rajan
    Kamal Hassan
    Mani Ratnam
    Sridevi
    Hema Malini
    Rekha
    Madhavan
    Vidya Balan
    Kris Srikanth
    Murali Vijay
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Dinesh Karthik
    Dhanraj Pillay
    Mani Shankar Aiyar
    Chidambaram
    Kalanithi Maran
    Padma Lakshmi
    Sadguru Jaggi Vasudev
    Sri Sri Ravishankar
    Paramahamsa Nithyananda

    Most of them live in other parts of India not even Tamil Nadu. Don't waste your time, not a single person will put grass for you. If you have confidence in your belief, come to India, come to Tamil Nadu & try starting a separatist movement. I can assure you, you will be cut into pieces by the Tamils themselves. Do you have guts. Try it.
     
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  14. lastofthepatriots

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    I already told you. We want nothing to do with you guys.
     
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    I support reunification but under the greater Pakistan with a Muslim ruler . Combined strength of Muslims in Pakistan and India will be around 500 Million and if Muslims can't practice their faith freely than it will create divide and chaos which eventually result in civil war .