• Monday, December 11, 2017

Imran Khan, don't give your stupidity the name of humanitarianism

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  1. veg

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    Vote any one whom you find most suitable.

    But make it sure no one make the mistake of pleasing the terrorists by making the state of Pakistan weak. Make sure to criticize with the loudest possible voice if you see such mistake is made by your candidate.

    Always keep the interest of the State above any political party you choose.

    People have taken Imran Khan as Angel. No, he is not an angel. Whenever he is wrong, make him to pay for it, till the time he reforms himself.
     
  2. Imran Khan

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    keep me damn away from thread i hate politics
     
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    TTP were there in Swat even before PTI formed govt in KPK. And how did Mr. Khan manage to give them KPK when PTI was nowhere to be seen, even not a single seat in the KPK parliment? Infact ANP was ruling the province when TTP took hold of Swat.

    By this KPK govt would have control over activities of Madrassa.

    Army can only defeat terrorists by force but structural and social changes in society are always done by civilian government and thatswhat they are doing in KPK.

    But this is how we Muslims ruled the world in past, right? :) War is never a lasting solution for any problem.
    PA is following the same strategy in Baluchistan. Kill terrorists'handlers, make them weak, unarm them and finally bring them in mainstream.
     
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    Welcome to Pakistan.

    There were only very few sane voices who was opposing giving out whole Swat district to the Sufi Muhammad for the imposition of Nizam-e-Muhammadi, without even asking the people of Swat in referendum if they want it or not.

    All the politicians (with Imran Khan on the forefront) were crying that Army should took out the troops from Swat and hand over the whole area to Sufi Muhammad for Nizam-e-Muhammad.

    The foolish politicians of Pakistan (including Imran Khan) didn't even ask the people of Swat if they want this nizam or not to be imposed upon them.


    Imran Khan was at helm in misguiding the nation and showing green gardens that this deal with get rid of all bads in area and it will become heaven etc.


    Sadly, it were only very few sane voices (all of them LIBERALS) who were opposing this stupidity of removing the forces from the area.

    It were only the Liberals who were telling the nation of return of Taliban in the area in the absence of the forces.

    But at that time too fools like Imran Khan and his blind supporters started blaming Liberals for "Blood Thirsty wolves", who are against the state of Pakistan, who are against Islam, who only want the blood of innocent Mullahs, who want a fight to be continued between Pak Army and their brother Taliban.

    Yes, foolish Imran Khan supporters were saying "Good Taliban" are the assets of Pakistan, and therefore there should be no operation against them.


    But the Liberals were 100% right.

    After the Pak forces left, the Taliban forces came back and took control of whole area within 2 days.

    Then again these foolish Politicians (including Imran Khan) didn't learn the lesson and kept on opposing the operation by telling "Give it a time and it will work".


    But the Fasaad of Taliban only grew and grew.

    Taliban imposed their Sharia.

    They banned girls from going to schools (actually it was Sufi Muhammad who wanted to do it under the Nizam-e-Muhammad).

    And then they started slaughtering innocent people in the Bazars of Swat in name of Islam.

    Then they started attack on the neighbouring areas and started expanding their area of control towards Islamabad.

    But these ***** all politicians (including Imran Khan) were still not ready for the operation and not a single voice came out of their throat for Army Operation, while as Imran Khan said that according to his stupid view Humanitarianism means no state operation.

    At the end, situation become so worst that Army had to start full large scale Operation.

    Result of this stupidity of people like Imran Khan was this that millions of people got displaced, thousands of people got killed, Swat area totally destroyed.


    That is why I asked the question about the definition of Humanity according to Imran Khan, but none of the hard core supporter of Imran Khan even got the courage to answer it.
     
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  5. Garfield

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    why not include Shahbaz and that witch Maryam as well in above statement? :azn:

    go on ... add her name in that sentence and repost!!
     
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    Wow, so let me digest this! You created a thread to share with us your contempt for Imran Khan! Okay great, now that you have that off your chest, do you feel better beta?!

    Don't lose any sleep over Imran Khan, because I am sure he is not loosing any over what some random person thinks about him on the word wide web.
     
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    Imran opposing operation against Taliban:

    LAHORE, April 25, 2009 (Frontier Star) -- Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf Chairman Imran Khan has said that the government should not talk about military operation against Taliban after peace pact in Swat signed between government and Maulana Sufi Muhammad. Talking to a private TV channel here on Saturday, Imran Khan said that war on terror was not a war of Pakistan. He said that government had further deteriorated situation in the country after it called the war on terror its own war, adding that it was not the war of Pakistan. Imran Khan said that the military operation could be carried out at any time against Taliban but use of military forces was not make solution for maintaining the peace in the region. All issues should be resolved through negotiations with Taliban, he added. He stressed that government should not carry military operation against its own people over pressure of foreign countries.

    Link:


    And here listen to Imran Khan direct how he is strongly advocating the imposition of Sharia Law in Swat, without even giving the chance to the poor people of Swat to show their will.

     
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    Thanks @Kaptaan :tup:

    @RealNapster you meant people who subscribe to this view:

     
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    Jani nokar ki tey nakhra ki
     
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    History is written by the winner, can you use the same argument about British and French rule the world
     
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    And you please stop advocating USA puppets crap here. Imran Khan was the one with the vision and warned Musharraf retard not to enter send Army into tribal areas. He kept warning we would get stuck and war will begin which no one will ever be able to stop and since 2003 we have entered we lost 50000 people 7000 civilians just yesterday lost 6 students. Our schools and Universities are turning into pool of bloods. Imran was the one with vision to see it coming but loyal USA slaves were too busy licking USA shoes. TTP was formed after 2003 operation, but the real boost it got was when Musharraf made the Lal Masjid disaster, this operation acted like a energy drink for TTP and they became from a very small group into a monster we still are unable to completely defeat. Musharraf retarded polices also made sure Baluchistan sets on fire and even still is on fire because of retarded Musharraf a known USA puppet. Our soldiers were so hated that Army had to tell its soldiers not wear uniform in public. Imran Khan and yes he was the one to oppose Wazristan operation but right now he is proving right still our Universities are getting attacked our markets are getting into blood pools.

    Finally for shariah vast majority Pakistanis want Shariah those liberal fundos are issue are free to live in west. In Pakistan sooner or later Shariah would get established. No power on earth can stop it.

    @veg
     
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    being from KPK i see your post insulting and infuriating, before you start i will quote few facts and than I will ask questions
    1. KPK has shown their will, and are not mind slaves to same people for 4 decades like in punjab and sindh

    why has not PMLN did fewer simple things that would have solved all issues
    1. clear foreign policy ?
    2. merging KPK and FATA ?
    3. operating in southern punjab ?
    4. axing developing projects like hydro dams in FATA despite funding (e.g Munda dam)
    5. causing severe military-government strain relationship, hurting the economy and destroying the fabric of society

    answer these questions please, and no ifs and buts, 5 years is more than enough for this
    PML N rather i will say punjabis(because they vote for goons just because of "bradaery" culture") are doing what we did with bengalis, their is a limit to pushtoons loyality to their country..every time blood is spilled in KPK just because it takes too much time to review a file to merge KPK and FATA(provincial assembly of KPK has passed numerous times for merger)

    Musharraf did everything wrong but atleast he kept the dignity of the country
    but buffoons running the ocuntry cant even do that
     
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    So, it seems you are unable to defend the foolish mistakes of Imran Khan in Swat Taliban case, and now you want to hide the stupidity of Imran Khan behind Afghan Taliban and US war.

    Imran Khan had zero vision of the ground realities, right from the beginning.

    Even before Musharraf, due to the entirely wrong policies of Pakistan (in the era of 90s) FATA area became the training camp for the notorious Afghani Taliban and al-Qaida.

    Pakistan imposed it's proxy (Afghani Taliban) upon the Afghan People against their wish, which was the fatal mistake.

    Pakistan made a mistake in understanding the Mullah mindset.

    It was 1996, when Taliban conquered Kabul, then they were raising the slogan of "Kabul ta Islamabad... Taliban Taliban".

    How much vision Imran Khan and his supporters need in order to understand this slogan and dream of Taliban: "Kabul ta Islamabad... Taliban Taliban"

    Therefore, it was very much clear that sooner or later Taliban will spread their ideology in Pakistan and march towards Islamabad.

    If you say that Taliban never dreamt to have their Islamic System imposed upon Pakistan, and they only wanted to stay in Afghanistan, then you are naive. And such naive friends are more dangerous than the open enemy.

    It was due to the US attack upon Afghani Taliban that the march towards Islamabad became slow and took longer time for Taliban to unite in Pakistan and pursue their dream.

    You are claiming that incident of Lal masjid was responsible for the creation of Tehrik Taliban. It is foolish thing to claim.

    There were 13 groups involved in the creation of Tehrik-e-Taliban in 2007, and all of them were active long long ago than this.

    And mind it, Musharraf was not responsible for Lal Mosque Fitna, but the Mullahs were themselves responsible, and Imran Khan once again polishing the shoes of the extremist Takfiri Mullahs in lal masjid, and even after that he went to those Takfiri Lal Mosque and delivered a speech there. Damned are all these foolish politicians who always acted against the interests of the State.

    And again the foolish thing from Imran Khan was this that he followed the lie of Hamid Mir of "Bad Taliban" and "Good Taliban".

    These jokers said that "Fazulullah" of Tehrik Taliban was "Bad", but Mullah Omer of Afghani Taliban was "good".

    But do you know both were one and the same. When Pak Army defeated Tehrik Taliban in Swat, then Maulana Fazalullah ran away to Afghanistan and Mullah Omer gave him the Shelter.

    And it was Mullah Omer who sent a delegation of Afghani Taliban in 3rd week of October, who then appointed the leadership of Tehrik-e-Taliban (See: https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/تحریک_طالبان_پاکستان )

    So, Imran Khan was wrong right from the beginning.


    Are you Imran Khan supporter who want democracy and Pakistani constitution?
    Or are you the Taliban extremist right supporter and want the imposition of so called Sharia of Taliban?

    Imran Khan, due to his extreme stupidity" tried to ride the 2 boats at same time. At one side he supported Nizam-e-Muhammadi in Swat Destrict, and on other side he wanted democratic system for himself to rule in KPK, where women and girls are allowed to come in the rallies and dance and to vote and to go to the school colleges.

    So which Sharia system Imran Khan want to support?

    Imran Khan supported Nizam-e-Muhammadi in Swat. And when Sufi Muhammad got the power, he announced that girls are not allowed to go to the schools. What a stupid move by Imran Khan of supporting Sharia of Sufi Muhammad before even understanding what kind of Sharia that was.

    Yes, later Imran Khan protested against decision of banning of girls going to school and closure of girl colleges, but this does not disapprove his stupidity. Such things should be determined before handing over the area to the extremists, and not crying after the arrow has already been shot.

    Now prove us that Imran Khan was the wisest man and the most visionary man on the planet by handing over whole Swat to extremists in name of Sharia, before even knowing that this Sharia bans girls from schools and colleges.
     
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    blah blah didnt answer my questions

    IK has been throwing around all sort of ideas which have no meaning, no consequences, as he has never been in place of power

    so either you are an idiot or hypocrit
    as what IK believes or said has no value unless he does come in power