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If You Hate America, Why Not Go Back to Your Country?

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  1. Solomon2

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    If You Hate America, Why Not Go Back to Your Country?
    by Majid Rafizadeh
    January 6, 2018 at 5:00 am


    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11642/islamist-immigrants-hate-america


    • No matter what the Islamists' current status or situation, they would lash out at the US, the West and Americans. Meanwhile, American taxpayers were providing hundreds of thousands of dollars to them in scholarships, free accommodation, and often even a monthly stipend. By comparison, many American students struggle to pay their own tuition and housing; many graduate with debt.
    • Some believed that the US was simply supposed to do these favors for them for free of charge. Others argued that this was an opportunity to take advantage of America, and should be done for the sake of furthering Islamic political and religious views.
    • The US has been funding the lives of these extremists as they endanger our country and the lives of all Americans, and spread hatred towards America, Christianity, Judaism and the West. Is this how American taxpayers want their hard-earned contributions to be used?

    When I first arrived in America, I would ask every extremist and fundamentalist Muslim I met: "How has your life been since you came to the United States?"

    It was clear that their living standards were much better than back home. I knew well the lands they had come from, their economic standards and restrictions, their lifestyle, the social, and the religious, economic and political landscapes of the region.

    They were surely about to say how much their lives had improved, and how grateful they were to be in a new, less restricted environment. Instead, they expressed anger and even hatred of their new country and its culture. What they could not put into words, was clearly written across their faces: revulsion and disgust.

    It seemed they were comfortable disclosing their true feelings in Farsi or Arabic about the US, Americans, the West, Christians, and Jews. As we had all come from, grown up in, and worked in the same region, many of them mistakenly assumed that we both shared the same hate-filled views. Once they discovered that was not the situation, some even tried to reshape my views: as I was new to the country, I probably did not yet understand.

    Everything in this country, they patiently explained, was kufr: blasphemy, filthy, infidel. They went on harshly to criticize American culture and the Western lifestyle. Their list of complaints was unending: how men and women dress, how people interact, how people work and celebrate life, go to parties, date, marry, dance, drink -- there did not seem one aspect of American life that did not enrage them.

    A wealthy Islamist imam, who explained that he was poor in his prior country and had accumulated all of his wealth after coming to the US by expanding existing mosques and attracting people and donations, ironically bashed the US for not allowing Islamist imams to grow financially. He could not explain why. It was just another hypocritical tool, used as an excuse to hate America and brainwash followers to hate America. Despite the fact that he had gone from poverty to riches beyond anything he could have dreamed, he was quite angry at his new country.

    More intriguingly, this attitude was apparent among both academics and non-academics. No matter what the Islamists' current status or situation, they would lash out at the US, the West and Americans. Meanwhile, American taxpayers were providing hundreds of thousands of dollars to them in scholarships, free accommodation, and often even a monthly stipend. By comparison, many American students struggle to pay their own tuition and housing; many graduate with debt.

    When asked what they thought of the free education that they were receiving at the best universities in the world, which ensured their success in life, a sense of entitlement would appear. Some believed that the US was simply supposed to do these favors for them for free of charge. Others argued that this was an opportunity to take advantage of America, and should be done for the sake of furthering Islamic political and religious views.

    When asked for details about their home country from where they immigrated or fled, surprisingly, they had nothing bad to say. Everything in their home country was heaven-like. They beautified and worshiped their authoritarian and Islamist regimes.

    Finally, I asked the question that burned in my mind: Why, if they hated the US so much, did they not they go back to their beloved home country? What if all their expenses were covered, such as plane tickets to their native land?

    Instead of the earlier lengthy explanations, the general response was evasive. Some even remained perfectly silent or refused to answer.

    The question itself had unmasked me. In their eyes, just by asking this question, I had revealed myself as an outsider. In that moment, I joined the crowd of multitudes of human beings that they hate and refuse to tolerate.

    Even if one puts their Islamist agenda aside, their extreme ungratefulness seemed jolting. The United States had given them a home, a green card, citizenship, free scholarships, salaries, unlimited opportunities, and freedoms they had never known: freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly.

    Here they were enjoying equality under the law, security, and so many other benefits that would be considered extreme luxuries or unheard of in their previous homelands -- everything they had been deprived of in their earlier home. No other country would have provided them with half of this. So why did they demonstrate and ratchet up anti-American, anti-Western, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic sentiments, while at the same time rejecting the idea of returning to their original country? How could they enjoy all of these benefits America offered them, and yet, at the same time, yearn for its destruction? There do not seem to be such anti-American sentiments expressed by other immigrants from non-Islamist countries, or from Christians or Jews who fled from Islamist states in the same region.




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    (Image sources: Welcome to USA sign - Craig Nagy/Wikimedia Commons; Islamist protester - Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images)



    It is now time to reconsider whom we are freely providing money and resources to -- including those Islamists who have already been in the United States for generations. It is the time to reconsider whom we are allowing to enter this country, and providing with free shelter, scholarships, cash, freedom of speech, and all the rights that come with the constitution. The US has been funding the lives of these extremists as they endanger our country and the lives of all Americans, and spread hatred towards America, Christianity, Judaism and the West.

    Is this how American taxpayers want their hard-earned contributions to be used?


    Dr. Majid Rafizadeh, is a business strategist and advisor, Harvard-educated scholar, political scientist, board member of Harvard International Review, and president of the International American Council on the Middle East. He is the author of "Peaceful Reformation in Iran's Islam". He can be reached at Dr.Rafizadeh@Post.Harvard.Edu.
     
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    they have no country left US of A invaded their country steal their resources and destroyed their nation
     
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    If America Hates Islam than why not leave Islamic Countries ? why taking their money , oil and do business with people who hate them ? Donald Dumb says " Islam Hates us " .. and his followers thinks he is right so why not protest when US sign 110 Billion Dollar weapon deal with people who hates you ?
     
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    Maybe because America bombed their country to rubble and they have nowhere to go back to?
     
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    whole world despice America and their little illegal apartheid vessel state in Middle east
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    some other gems from same website
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    @Pakistan Zindabad, @Chinese-Dragon, @Starlord, @Mugwop : all you guys have one thing in common: you don't read beyond the headlines (or at least you don't evaluate the content of the article) before mouthing off.

    If I see that again I'll probably put you on my "ignore" list. Why not put me on yours? Won't that make you happy?
     
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    i hate US GOV and policy not USA and i will never ever go to usa . thanks but no thanks :lol:
     
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    Oh yes we will, once US leave ours.
     
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    Why didn't the author of this article report those so called muslim extremists to the authorities instead of lambasting them in a crappy article? Hate-mongering islamaphobia is a great business with minimal effort.
     
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    I read half, normally i don't read what you post but this one i read at least half of it :)
     
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    Anglo-imperialists need a scape goat and boogeyman to justify their wars. The truth is 97 percent of Americans including solomon know nothing about Islam.
     
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    How do you know that he didn't?

    In the U.S.? Here you're likely to be blacklisted and hounded for "Islamaphobia". At least one notable "Islamaphobe" was blamed by the Obama Administration for the deaths of U.S. diplomats in Benghazi and a few more "Islamaphobes" have been banned from entry into the U.K.

    The author is a Muslim from Iran.
     
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    Author of this article has a point. You do not hate the country that has given you everything. If you do not like USA, no point in staying there. Choice is between staying true to your ideals or being a hypocrite.

    Unfortunately, many Muslims in modern times are hypocrites of highest order.

    Nonetheless, I do not think that every American Muslim immigrant is like that. You have good and bad everywhere.

    Even if they have limited knowledge of Islam, we are doing a splendid job in cultivating its image for the entire world with our over-the-top fantastic deeds.
     
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    Well if he did then he wouldn't write such articles and maybe boast about it.

    LOL! What part of the US do you live in my friend? Fox news is known for it's islamaphobic rants! pamella geller and robert spencer capitalized on it. It's not just a new trend for conservative couch potatoes but also a business. I can recommend some books from phony ex muslims if you want?
     
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