• Sunday, December 15, 2019

If North Korea can why can't we

Discussion in 'Pakistan Strategic Forces' started by Fawadqasim1, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. Baghial

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    Because kim jong il got big balls.....thats why n.korea can ...n we cant..
     
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    Lol those balls were given to him by us.
     
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    ...yes you are right...
    Thats why you are without balls now....eunuch
     
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    Yes sir but Iskandar-M technology can also be tweaked and can adapt accordingly
     
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    Trying to outdo US with hard power approaches, is a virtually futile excercise (very expensive and difficult path).

    The objective of any type of warhead is to score a hit on the desired target, and it will never have the luxury to play GTA with increasingly smart robotic interceptors while in flight.

    Russia is in the game because of its vast nuclear arsenal base inherited from former USSR - too many to throw at a potential adversary. Even then Russia is feeling insecure at present.

    Russia have spent 13 straight years to develop RS-28 Sarmat ICBM which will be equipped with multiple nuclear-tipped Avangard class HGV (MiRV configuration), idea is to significantly shorten exo- atmospheric Midcourse flight path and go endo- atmospheric instead in the face of the increasingly capable American GMD network, and this platform is still WIP. On the other hand, DARPA have commenced Glide Breaker project, GMD network will be expanded to accomodate Glide Breakers as well.

    Regional powers such as Pakistan and DPRK have very limited resources, and the crumbs which China and Russia throw our way continue to put a smile on our faces but these are not enough. Israel, Russia and US are increasingly willing to help India, and this should be a MAJOR concern.

    Unfortunately, PSYOPS continue to blind many people...
     
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    You are right sir but I was talking about an asymmetrical approach e.g China deterred Russia and America with few icbms and about 200 nuclear warheads from mid 60s To early 80s and sir we can't sit licking MAJOR concern we will have to do something within our budget Power and capabilities. Hath pay hath rakh kar dushman Kay waar ka intizaar Tau naheen kar sakte.
    and those who think that we can woo usa with good diplomacy are living in a fools paradise they have chosen their allies no matter what we do diplomatically it won't change anything.

    I would love to see a good working relationship between pakistan and USA
    But I don't see even semblance of it in near
    future so.
     
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    Would a CIWS work on it?
    Not really, China had big threats to face for sure. But their relations were up with the other when that with first was down. Initial Chinese systems were based on Soviet designs further modified by China.

    US had started to support PRC to neutralise Soviet Union and disputes heightened. Bill Clinton was exceptionally friendly and lenient in passing on some critical techs to PRC (which they are reluctant to share with anyone, still).

    Rise of China again made them belligerents.
     
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    Mid 60s to early 80s
     
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    Yes probably the russians help NK to keep uncle SAM in check and to stop their influence i
    n the region.
    By the way the range of this missile is not a big deal and we already have ballistic missiles of this range in arsenal.So what exactly makes this missile special and what exactly we are missing here?
    Also when we developed babur missile the west speculated that there is no way we can develop such a sophisticated missile on own and they blame us for stealing the tomhahawk tech.So is this missile tech wise more superior than babur?
     
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    It's not about the range rather its about the difficulty it poses to an abm system by dint of its depressed trajectory and maybe
    Some terminal phase maneuverability.
     
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    I hope @The Deterrent has a better answer.
     
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    More like German scientists and engineers. Read Operation Paperclip. Wernher von Braun, the father of V2 rockets/ballistic missiles, surrendered to the Americans at the end of WWII. The Soviets were closing in and he, along with his brother and his team, did not want to fall into the hands of the communists. The Americans got the cream but the Soviets managed to round up some of the rocket scientists and engineers. The Americans subsequently gave citizenship to the German scientists/engineers, who then went on to not just work for the Americans but lead the important missile and space projects for the country. The Soviets did not trust the German scientists/engineers they had captured and thus used them in restricted capacity. But regardless of this fact, the subsequent American and Soviet rocket scientists/engineers were innovative in their own right and developed systems that owed nothing to the V2 programme.
     
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    Yes. Russia and China keep supplying North Korea with UN sanctions-violating equipment so NK doesnt become weak enough that US+ SK feel confident an attack on NK would be succesful. CHina has sold NK TELs which are against UN sanctions. How did broke az North Korea get an ICBM??? offcourse its CHina. THis ISkander look alike? must be Russia. Russia and CHina give NK potent weapons to poke the US and hold it at bay.
     
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    Russia yes China not so much.
     
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    Sure, provided that the CIWS is present in close proximity of the QBM's target.

    @Fawadqasim1 explained it well.

    Pakistan DID reverse-engineer the Tomahawk. Comparing a QBM with a cruise missile is like comparing apples and oranges. While a cruise missile has a lot more complexity in terms of moving parts (i.e. booster, fins, wings, engine, navigation), a quasi-ballistic missile incorporates technologies that are difficult to obtain (i.e. 'slow-burning' propellant, airframe capable of sustaining flight in the hypersonic regime).

    However QBMs have an upper hand when it comes to the ability to penetrate the AA/BMD protection.
     
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