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If Justice Qazi Faiz Isa become CJ of Pakistan than can he be the part of bench to listen cases against PM Khan?

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Well, in any case it will be Isa himself who will decide whether he will listen to cases against IK or not as he will be the sole authority on the matter as CJP in 2023/24. That IK tried, and failed, to take on a Judge of the Supreme Court despite weak and deliberately engineered/fabricated case against Isa tells one of the caliber of Imran Khan too. And if anyone here is in doubt of case being created against Isa because of his verdict in the Faizabad dharna case, he/she is delusional on another level altogether.

As for Judges and Judiciary being great and just, well, the story starts with spilling of state of affairs of Judiciary by Justice Siddiqui and ends in the spilling of circumstances of verdict against NS by the deceased Judge Arshad Malik! Who here has faith in the Judiciary?

This is a country where NS could not be tried successfully nor any money recovered from him, this is a country which could not successfully try Zardari or recover money from him. This is a country which cannot even try Malik Riaz or Mansha etc. This is a country which blesses the rich and powerful and makes unfair examples out of poor people. Is it then any wonder that we are ranked 100+ out of 109 countries judicial system?
What fabrication was in Issa case?? He accepted those properties and put his wife in front of judges.FI is a shameful man did every trick except money trail
NS lands and cars gonna auction next week buy one for urself
 

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What fabrication was in Issa case?? He accepted those properties and put his wife in front of judges.FI is a shameful man did every trick except money trail
There was no case to begin with, an anonymous person files a random complain to some illegal PM's cell which wasn't authorized to conduct any inquiry or order state organs to investigate a sitting Supreme Court Judge and this is where all the fighting originated. Isa was targeted not because he was or is a corrupt judge or had properties in his children's name which weren't declared in his Tax Returns but rather because of his infamous verdict against the Army's officers conduct in the Faizabad Dharna of TLP.

As for the properties, he made it abundantly clear that his children were adults who were NOT dependent on him and thus there was no liability on him to declare assets that his children purchased as adult, earning members for a foreign country.



NS lands and cars gonna auction next week buy one for urself
Those are peanuts, the real money is outside Pakistan. And I pity the fool who bids on the auctioned lands cause when NS comes into power again, well.......
 

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There was no case to begin with, an anonymous person files a random complain to some illegal PM's cell which wasn't authorized to conduct any inquiry or order state organs to investigate a sitting Supreme Court Judge and this is where all the fighting originated. Isa was targeted not because he was or is a corrupt judge or had properties in his children's name which weren't declared in his Tax Returns but rather because of his infamous verdict against the Army's officers conduct in the Faizabad Dharna of TLP.

As for the properties, he made it abundantly clear that his children were adults who were NOT dependent on him and thus there was no liability on him to declare assets that his children purchased as adult, earning members for a foreign country.





Those are peanuts, the real money is outside Pakistan. And I pity the fool who bids on the auctioned lands cause when NS comes into power again, well.......
Issa was accepted those properties when U accept it doesn't matter who found them.
His kids are adult that what Govt asked show theior money trail which he failed and all these properties made when his kids were students.He himself was BHC Cheif
Faizabad dherna verdict done by 3 judges not one there is nothing againt other two? hiding behind silly excuses won't let him off the hook.
He has to provide money trail otherwise this saga will continue.
NS assets are confiscated which are on his name as more and more pops up will be auctioned will take time but if this streek will continue
 

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Issa was accepted those properties when U accept it doesn't matter who found them.
His kids are adult that what Govt asked show theior money trail which he failed and all these properties made when his kids were students.He himself was BHC Cheif
Faizabad dherna verdict done by 3 judges not one there is nothing againt other two? hiding behind silly excuses won't let him off the hook.
He has to provide money trail otherwise this saga will continue.
NS assets are confiscated which are on his name as more and more pops up will be auctioned will take time but if this streek will continue
1. It matters, because malafide has to be established. Why was any investigation undertaken against him through illegal orders?
2. The properties were bought by his children through their own income. As independent citizens, how can you demand that they provide you with money trail when they are neither accused of any wrong doing nor liable to be held accountable for earnings outsider of Pakistan. And did you know how much Isa was earning through his firm before he decided to accept the prestige of becoming a judge? Do you have any idea of his family background and their services for Pakistan?
3. How do you know his children were students when they bought the properties? How do you know the children own the properties outright and not on lease or loan as is generally the case in western countries?
4. Please read the comments of Isa in the Faizabad dharna verdict and compare it to those of other judges, if it indeed was a 3-judge bench. His words were very critical and implicating; however true and factual.
5. It is estimated that NS has looted Billions of USD from Pakistan. How can you recover that, including damages and interest, by auctioning some old cars and some property?
 

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1. It matters, because malafide has to be established. Why was any investigation undertaken against him through illegal orders?
2. The properties were bought by his children through their own income. As independent citizens, how can you demand that they provide you with money trail when they are neither accused of any wrong doing nor liable to be held accountable for earnings outsider of Pakistan. And did you know how much Isa was earning through his firm before he decided to accept the prestige of becoming a judge? Do you have any idea of his family background and their services for Pakistan?
3. How do you know his children were students when they bought the properties? How do you know the children own the properties outright and not on lease or loan as is generally the case in western countries?
4. Please read the comments of Isa in the Faizabad dharna verdict and compare it to those of other judges, if it indeed was a 3-judge bench. His words were very critical and implicating; however true and factual.
5. It is estimated that NS has looted Billions of USD from Pakistan. How can you recover that, including damages and interest, by auctioning some old cars and some property?
1There were no malfied attentioned proved by court show me where its written in orders
2There is no proof those properties were bought by his children every property has a money trail in west all those properties were bought in cash a per own admission by Begum Issa
3 comment on dherna by Issa means nothing signed by all three judges
4 Issa is Govt servent paid by tax payers Govt has all the right to ask his properties which not decaled he is not above the law
5 NS is Marcos of Pakistan assets keep showing Up will keep confiscated even after 30yrs still Philippines Govt recovering money from Marcos same case is here each journey start from small step.
 

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1There were no malfied attentioned proved by court show me where its written in orders
2There is no proof those properties were bought by his children every property has a money trail in west all those properties were bought in cash a per own admission by Begum Issa
3 comment on dherna by Issa means nothing signed by all three judges
4 Issa is Govt servent paid by tax payers Govt has all the right to ask his properties which not decaled he is not above the law
5 NS is Marcos of Pakistan assets keep showing Up will keep confiscated even after 30yrs still Philippines Govt recovering money from Marcos same case is here each journey start from small step.
1. Justice Isa reference tainted with mala fide in law: SC - Please also read the detailed 73 page verdict.
2. Oh my naive, ignorant friend.....What exactly Sarina Isa owns, how did she acquire London flats? Begum Isa too is an independent and has been filing tax returns independently as she was not dependent to her husband. She has a money trial for everything.
3. The bench comprised of 2 judges, not 3. And the verdict was authored by Faez Isa, that is what matters. It were his words which were critical of the role of agencies (Army, Navy & Air Force) in which he had directed them to take action against their officers who had violated their oath.
4. Again, as you are either deliberately not trying to understand or are actually unable to understand, Government employees are required to submit details of assets and liabilities of only their dependents, not their entire family and relatives! All of us Government officers submit such declarations each year.
5. Yeah, right!
 

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1. Justice Isa reference tainted with mala fide in law: SC - Please also read the detailed 73 page verdict.
2. Oh my naive, ignorant friend.....What exactly Sarina Isa owns, how did she acquire London flats? Begum Isa too is an independent and has been filing tax returns independently as she was not dependent to her husband. She has a money trial for everything.
3. The bench comprised of 2 judges, not 3. And the verdict was authored by Faez Isa, that is what matters. It were his words which were critical of the role of agencies (Army, Navy & Air Force) in which he had directed them to take action against their officers who had violated their oath.
4. Again, as you are either deliberately not trying to understand or are actually unable to understand, Government employees are required to submit details of assets and liabilities of only their dependents, not their entire family and relatives! All of us Government officers submit such declarations each year.
5. Yeah, right!
These are all extract from justice Issa petition comment of few judges not in court order show me the Court order where it says it was malafide?
Begum Issa income does not match her properties in London according to her tax returns
Ur claim properties bought by his ki ds in court not a single time QFI claim about this thing.
I am not deliberate u again hiding and running in circles for U read the court dacuments not juicy stories
Case is simple Begum Issa has to prove she purchase those properties without QFI where she failed.
The territorial integrity of the country will be compromised
He won't be CJ he is tainted enough can't explain his wealth
 
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It is not a matter of 'if'; He will become the CJ in 2023 and will be able to make all decisions related to Judiciary independently. This will also coincide with the retirement of COAS Bajwa who has been sheltering Imran Khan like none other before him (except maybe Kiyani to some extent who sheltered Zardari). The next COAS may not necessarily be as dedicated to PTI and IK as Bajwa is and his predecessor was.

Hopefully, by then a better Government would also be in place and then Faez Isa will be free to listen to the cases of corruption and manipulation of elections (which should be equated to treason) and other cases.
Doesnt the sitting govt appoint the CJP? Normally, its tradition to go with seniority. But previously seniority has been ignored so why not in this case?
 

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If Justice Qazi Faiz Isa become CJ of Pakistan than can he be the part of bench to listen cases against PM Khan?

Everyone know he will be biased and can he listen to the cases or petition against PM khan when if he comes CJ?
Yes
First he will use his own case as precdence and declare kick backs as "halal"
Thus finishing all cases against nawaz sharif then he will state maryum lying was okay since he lied too. And her case of calibri font will be declared none ans void

Next he will declare IK as guy who use to do fornication banning him from poltics

If someone wonders how this can happen...
It has happened before
 

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First he will use his own case as precdence and declare kick backs as "halal"
Thus finishing all cases against nawaz sharif then he will state maryum lying was okay since he lied too. And her case of calibri font will be declared none ans void

Next he will declare IK as guy who use to do fornication banning him from poltics

If someone wonders how this can happen...
It has happened before
One eyed judge you talking about?? He is another fraud like iftikhar but good exposed before get CJ job according to Dunya new article in that bench there are 4 other judges whom cases are pending at SJC unbelievable
 

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Doesnt the sitting govt appoint the CJP? Normally, its tradition to go with seniority. But previously seniority has been ignored so why not in this case?
The CJP elevation is automatic without any external interference, this has been the case since Ch. Iftikhar was promoted out of turn, as I recall, the rules were amended accordingly.
 

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These are all extract from justice Issa petition comment of few judges not in court order show me the Court order where it says it was malafide?
Begum Issa income does not match her properties in London according to her tax returns
Ur claim properties bought by his ki ds in court not a single time QFI claim about this thing.
I am not deliberate u again hiding and running in circles for U read the court dacuments not juicy stories
Case is simple Begum Issa has to prove she purchase those properties without QFI where she failed.
I can neither translate/explain the foreign language to you nor can I force you to see stars even on a clear night. All I can do is paste the following from the verdict and let all decide for themselves:

"Although the preparation and framing of the reference against the petitioner [Justice Isa] is not patently motivated with malice in fact, the scale and degree of the illegalities are such that the reference is deemed to be tainted with mala fide in law. For this reason, the reference is hereby quashed”

said the 173-page detailed judgment authored by future Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial and endorsed by six more judges.

The rest of your post is equally weighted and discarded to be baseless rubbish.
 

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I can neither translate/explain the foreign language to you nor can I force you to see stars even on a clear night. All I can do is paste the following from the verdict and let all decide for themselves:

"Although the preparation and framing of the reference against the petitioner [Justice Isa] is not patently motivated with malice in fact, the scale and degree of the illegalities are such that the reference is deemed to be tainted with mala fide in law. For this reason, the reference is hereby quashed”

said the 173-page detailed judgment authored by future Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial and endorsed by six more judges.

The rest of your post is equally weighted and discarded to be baseless rubbish.
I call spade a spade one time u said his kids bought even he himself never claim in his petition.?
It said malafide with law not malafide Intent of Govt?? Both are two different things Read carefully and see stars clearly if Govt found malafide intent then Atleast shehzad akbar was gone. This clearly shows that it was about his unexplained wealth not about sit in by TLP what he and U claiming that is why begum Issa spend time with FBR where she failed
QFI is Govt servent get salary by tax payers he not above the law means he has to answer wealth which his wife can't prove in court of law and FBR.
Not everything againt U is conspiracy by agencies or Govt neither he is important nor they have time for this shit when he will be CJ for only 10months or So it clearly says Sir tell Us how U bought million £ properties he remembers 200Rs jinnah cap bought by his dad for Quide Azam which was another lie to teeth but don't remember who bought those properties in London like NS
 
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