• Saturday, November 23, 2019

IDEX UAE 2013: News, Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Arab Defence Forum' started by Al Bhatti, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. BLACKEAGLE

    BLACKEAGLE ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    10,887
    Joined:
    May 9, 2007
    Ratings:
    +4 / 21,430 / -3
    Country:
    Jordan
    Location:
    Jordan
    Now I am jealous...:hitwall:

    Ukrainian Emirati armored personnel carrier is being produced in Dubai

    The Ukrainian Pavilion showed a modern armored personnel carrier being produced in Dubai in cooperation with the Ukrainian state-owned company and a private Emirati company. Company officials confirmed the Ukrainian government Okrsets Aaxport responsible for the Ukrainian pavilion at the exhibition that this tanker shown for the first time at IDEX stressing that it can accommodate about 12 people, including the commander and the driver and a dozen soldiers. They pointed out that this vehicle is the first of co-production between Ukraine and the UAE company, stating that IDEX is a great opportunity for the Ukrainian arms companies to showcase their products in the Middle East.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    ناقلة جنود إماراتية أوكرانية تنتج في دبي - البيان
     
  2. cabatli_53

    cabatli_53 INT'L MOD

    Messages:
    11,531
    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Ratings:
    +60 / 40,001 / -0
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    Turkey

    Most probably, 15 people story is given to emphasize the payload capacity of UAV to make it more clear in public mind. If We consider one man weight equals around 70kg, 15 men means 15*70: 1050kg (?) payload capacity. Otherwise, It is not a manned airplane to carry any people on board...
     
  3. BLACKEAGLE

    BLACKEAGLE ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    10,887
    Joined:
    May 9, 2007
    Ratings:
    +4 / 21,430 / -3
    Country:
    Jordan
    Location:
    Jordan
    It doesn't make sense actually, maybe a mistake by the editor of the article.
     
  4. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    47,748
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Ratings:
    +84 / 49,485 / -13
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 5, 2013
  5. madmusti

    madmusti BANNED

    Messages:
    2,841
    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +2 / 3,238 / -0
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    Turkey
    Maybe ,but it´s not a Plane ,it´s a Vehicle :)


    Why ? Against ? they Have Already Leclerc´s !
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 5, 2013
  6. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    47,748
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Ratings:
    +84 / 49,485 / -13
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Because they have money and they should replace these old tanks they are quite old now and needs replacement
     
  7. madmusti

    madmusti BANNED

    Messages:
    2,841
    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +2 / 3,238 / -0
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    Turkey
    Against ? Why new Tanks if they already over 300 Leclerc´s !

    If you had money you don´t must it Waste it.
     
  8. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    47,748
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Ratings:
    +84 / 49,485 / -13
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    Sir they have already 400 Tanks 300 are Leclerc but they should replace these around 100 old Tanks with new ones
     
  9. cabatli_53

    cabatli_53 INT'L MOD

    Messages:
    11,531
    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Ratings:
    +60 / 40,001 / -0
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    Turkey

    My friend, Everything at the beggining of program was really good but When the 1500kg ANKA airframe started trials, Turkish engineers realized How difficult engineering problems they met to overcome. The purpose was to carry the airframe over 30000ft altitude with around 24h duration(similar capability like equivalents Predator-A,B, Heron with AselFlir) so Engineering efforts have already been proceeding over ANKA-B for 30000ft+ and ANKA-TP for 45000ft. All those serious efforts of Turkish engineers, crash landings of prototypes, mission computer, link connection losts, software upgradings, new wing aerodynamics, lowe weight composite materials to decrease the weight...etc (and many other foreign similar class UAV's with similar capabilities passed same ways for maturation (30000ft and 24 h duration)) I read on magazines make me think that Development of an UAV (100h duration with 6-8 guided missile around 30000ft) is one of the most difficult effort I country can carry out because There is not a World example like this MALE UAV Arabian source introduced. Hope It is true... Believe me If you manage to develop the one source mentioned, That makes you rank Number-1 UAV manufacturer of the World automatically.
     
  10. madmusti

    madmusti BANNED

    Messages:
    2,841
    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +2 / 3,238 / -0
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    Turkey
    Yes but answer my Question !

    Do they need new Tanks ?
     
  11. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    47,748
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Ratings:
    +84 / 49,485 / -13
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    If they want to maintain 400 hundred Tanks than they need them if think 300 are enough than they don't need it simple
     
  12. tyrant

    tyrant FULL MEMBER

    Messages:
    566
    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2012
    Ratings:
    +0 / 532 / -0
    Country:
    Saudi Arabia
    Location:
    United States
    I agree with you. It takes 5% to develop something; 95% to validate it under different circumstances.
    The specs says united 40 does "car tracking" which can be developed in a few weeks but harsh validations arises for just this module:
    1. Car tracking in cloudy, rainy, foggy situations.
    2. Car tracking with occlusions: such as bridges, trees, and other barriers
    and so on.
    Of course combat needs huge software modules that will need years to be shaped, and endurance is another story.
     
  13. Zarvan

    Zarvan ELITE MEMBER

    Messages:
    47,748
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Ratings:
    +84 / 49,485 / -13
    Country:
    Pakistan
    Location:
    Pakistan
    The UAE has asked Eurofighter, Boeing and Dassault for proposals for a next generation fighter. The UAE has said that it requires a more advanced aircraft than the current Rafale in service with the Armée de l’Air, and is not going to fund Dassault for a new variant development project. Reports suggest Lockheed Martin F-35A has also joined as a contender.
    [edit]
    United Arab Emirates Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  14. madmusti

    madmusti BANNED

    Messages:
    2,841
    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Ratings:
    +2 / 3,238 / -0
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    Turkey
    Source ?

    But a Unit of a F35 will cost after 2020 67 Millions USD $


    " After a year of bad press following the federal government’s botched estimate of how much it would cost to procure 65 of the stealth planes, officials from Lockheed Martin Corp. and Pratt & Whitney hosted a telephone press conference to refute perceptions of cost overruns and noting the involvement of several Canadian firms – including Ottawa-based GasTops – on the project.
    Steve O’Bryan, vice-president of F-35 programs at Lockheed Martin, said the jets have undergone a 50 per cent price reduction compared to five years ago, and estimated that each plane will cost $67 million by 2020."

    F-35 makers go on offensive - Defence and security - Ottawa Business Journal
     
  15. cabatli_53

    cabatli_53 INT'L MOD

    Messages:
    11,531
    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Ratings:
    +60 / 40,001 / -0
    Country:
    Turkey
    Location:
    Turkey
    Dont think hard with details. Lots of journalists are like Moron When It comes to publish something regarding technological issues so Even If they heart some serious statements from safe mouths, They can't deliver the necessary informations, mixing terms, using imbecile examples to introduce what they heart...etc I can introduce lots of examples from Turkish media.

    What source tries to introduce with car tracking capability is FLIR's automatic tracking capability from km's away. If the issue is cloudy or rainy weather conditions, The same missions will be carried out by a SAR radar to be integrated under the fuselage..